thats some prity tight dancing ,

I have more of an issue forcing kids to learn fixed ruteens and spend all there time doing structured shit , rather than this been sexual.

evan if the dance is overtly sexual , they rnt having sex , and from kids perspective its not doing annything , so long as it wasent sumone seting it up for there own sexual enjoyment and the motervatoins behind it were posative then there is no real issue .

for them to call this on clothing is pritty stupid , i mean with that argument its like saying all nudists are secual predators , and its in apropreat for people to be naked . (again it depends on the person who dressed them ups resoning and motivatoin)

granted the typ of clothing is cultraly asoceated with slutty stuff , but they r kids and not sluts , halaween costumes are asoceated with muder and deth , but kids rnt going to grow up to murder becuse of bing a muderer .

People should be far more concernd about kids protending to shoot eachother with toy guns , than this (and evan that is not evan realy an issue )

and then there second argument that , pedoes exsist so thats a resoin for them not to be dressed like that , well


1) whats wrong with pedoes lusting over this so long as they dont do annything to the kids and dont do annything that increoaches on minors there is no problem. Its like me banning statues becuse a % of the populatoin find them sexualy atractive .

2) just becuse sumone is a pedo dose not autimaticly make them a sadistic eval person that will end up abusing kids , this shouting PEDOPHILE atitude just makes the situatoin worse , need to get to the piont where if sumone is a pedophile and they activlly feal they want to abuse kids then they can get help , if sumone has abused kids then fine lock them up and do whats neeeded to protect socity but im sure there will be a percentage of pedoes that would and could get help and a more pragmatic apreach would reduce the likely hood of kids been abused.

I personally don't think it's a big deal.

Alert the authorities.

Why am I not surprised that the she's morally outraged at this? She didn't like Epic Beard Man either, and uhm, dang, I forgot what they other thing was that she was all "wah wah" about too. She needs to mellow out, man.

That said, it's a bit iffy with the dresses and suggestive dancing. If the parents allow it and the kids want to do it, let them have their fun. Pervs are gonna wank to stuff no matter what anyway, don't be afraid because someone might take it the wrong way - that's no way to live your life.

Excellent choreography and execution.

Were they dressed skimpy? Maybe to some, whose thoughts automatically go in that direction, but I didn't see it. I was captivated by the performance.

And if this is too skimpy, then you better shut down the beaches, as I guarantee their swimsuits are more revealing than these costumes.

I was forced to sit through a FOUR HOUR dance recital not long ago, since my niece (who was 6 at the time) was participating. She had a total of about 4 minutes of dancing, and the rest was watching other peoples kids dance. The variety of performances was all over the map, ballet, tap, modern (like the video above), clogging, etc.

Let me tell you, people seem to have no problem with dressing their daughters up like tramps to perform suggestive dances in front of crowds.

I just don't get it. It was very uncomfortable. Here I am, a grown man, I know my boundaries, and yet here's a situation where they are apparently consciously tempting you over that line. It was very awkward. Thankfully, my wife (who was just as uncomfortable about the ordeal) has vowed to never let my sister-in-law guilt us into attending another.

Dancing is provocative to begin with, the whole point of dancing is to attract the opposite sex. Since its such a big entertainment medium now I guess its really not that big a deal. Although I still think they are too young to be doing it in a show with skimpy outfits in front of people you they don't know. Wouldn't bother me so much if they were at home and had some clothes on. As far as the pedophile issue who's to say that watching this would not heighten they're impulses rather than diminish them.

>> ^videosiftbannedme:

Excellent choreography and execution.
Were they dressed skimpy? Maybe to some, whose thoughts automatically go in that direction, but I didn't see it. I was captivated by the performance.
And if this is too skimpy, then you better shut down the beaches, as I guarantee their swimsuits are more revealing than these costumes.


I agree. The choreography was very good, and those girls hit their marks. That's no easy feat (feet?).

Actually, for little kids not even in the double-digits, they did a damn good job.

And it's a show. If they were dressing like that for school, or heading to the playground in the park, then maybe I'd be a bit more alarmed...but we can't inundate our culture with sexuality and provocativeness and expect the kids to pretend that it doesn't exist.

They don't think that they are doing anything "bad" by dancing like that; they're just doing it in a way similar to the way they've seen it done by Britney and Christina, et al.

Reminds me of a cringeworthy joke...

"My last girlfriend was eight, but she f%$@ed like a twelve year old!"

You are from Salt Lake City, I presume?
>> ^ctrlaltbleach:

Dancing is provocative to begin with, the whole point of dancing is to attract the opposite sex.

Having both girls, 10 and 4 respectively, I can't say I'd be comfortable with them performing something like this at all, although my oldest would undoubtedly love to. I didn't think the song was inappropriate, however. It really boiled down to the clothing was rather skimpy and the gyrating a bit too provocatively...and with the combination of both...yeah, it was a bit weird.

Yes, they did an outstanding job and the effort needed to perform that probably took many hours to pull off. Kudos there, but still...it was questionably inappropriate for a child (which is what 7 is...again, we're not talking pre-teen).

Now, having said all that...I'm also the type of guy thats not too keen on child beauty pageants (i.e Jon Benet Ramsey) and think that the parents who funnel their children through these things need some serious self reflection time for what they are doing to their kids. For the parents that ok'd this particular routine, I'm sure they signed over a bit of that self reflection in the hopes of winning said competition.

I upvoted Bleach's comment because although I don't think "dancing" is inherently meant to draw in the opposite sex, it certainly can be used to conjure up said imagery and I do think there was some of that happening during this routine. Again, such actions are inappropriate for a seven year old, IMO.

No LOL I'm from Texas. Besides that I'm really not very religious and I'm not saying dancing is proven to be provocative just my own opinion for why we do it. It's been around since life began in my observation so how did it start? Well even animals dance right? Why do they do it? Because spring has hit and its time to procreate. I'm not saying there is anything wrong with dancing at all its just a courtship ritual in the primitive form. I love the old Lindie Hop myself some dancing is more provocative than others. Why must they be doing a dance thats a directly mimics sex? Also girls are objectified anyway in life why make it worse? Or start it at such an early age. I don't know maybe I'm backwards on this subject but thats the way I look at it. Oh and I'm not 70 either I'm 30.
>> ^xxovercastxx:

You are from Salt Lake City, I presume?
>> ^ctrlaltbleach:
Dancing is provocative to begin with, the whole point of dancing is to attract the opposite sex.

for real?

i dont think "sex" when i see little girls dancing.. i just see little girls dacing (and these girls are good).

but if i ever saw westy dancing!

I can't help but think of http://www.southparkstudios.com/clips/251871/ (sorry to people out of the US).

I really wanted to sift that video, but it's too damn difficult to get to the embed without having firefox installed.

But not all dances are mating rituals. I have a very difficult time finding this sexy, for example. It's hard to believe anyone finds a jig arousing.

Many cultures have war dances in their history and animals also dance to settle territory disputes without violence.

>> ^ctrlaltbleach:

It's been around since life began in my observation so how did it start? Well even animals dance right? Why do they do it? Because spring has hit and its time to procreate. >> ^xxovercastxx:
You are from Salt Lake City, I presume?
>> ^ctrlaltbleach:
Dancing is provocative to begin with, the whole point of dancing is to attract the opposite sex.

I never said I thought sex when little girls dance, but when you see provocative dancing that does cross the mind. The real video with Beyonce is sexy and the song is sort of as well. Oh and I guess your right there are war dances I was not thinking of that guess I was wrong about that. There is also worship dancing as well.

They're dressing little girls up like strippers and having them perform pelvic thrusts at each other.

What else would you say that is suggestive of? At what age is it OK for children to start dancing like strippers? When can we incorporate the pole, and that be alright?

As Bubbles would say: "Something's not right... something's fucky."

isnt the story of te irish jig a dance trying to be as sexy as it can, within the shackles of the clammy grasp of the catholic church?


>> ^xxovercastxx:

But not all dances are mating rituals. I have a very difficult time finding this sexy, for example. It's hard to believe anyone finds a jig arousing.
Many cultures have war dances in their history and animals also dance to settle territory disputes without violence.
>> ^ctrlaltbleach:
It's been around since life began in my observation so how did it start? Well even animals dance right? Why do they do it? Because spring has hit and its time to procreate. >> ^xxovercastxx:
You are from Salt Lake City, I presume?
>> ^ctrlaltbleach:
Dancing is provocative to begin with, the whole point of dancing is to attract the opposite sex.

That smells awfully mythy.
>> ^lavoll:

isnt the story of te irish jig a dance trying to be as sexy as it can, within the shackles of the clammy grasp of the catholic church?>> ^xxovercastxx:
But not all dances are mating rituals. I have a very difficult time finding this sexy, for example. It's hard to believe anyone finds a jig arousing.
Many cultures have war dances in their history and animals also dance to settle territory disputes without violence.

I think this thread is proof that the Lady Gaga et al. brainwashing is working. Someone is using pop culture to brainwash society into thinking girls are just meant for sex, at any age. The idea that anyone would allow young girls to dress "up like strippers and having them perform pelvic thrusts at each other," let alone DEFEND others for doing it, blows my mind. You can choreograph a real nice professional dance without lingerie and hip thrusts.

THIS IS SEXUALIZING CHILDREN.

Whatever, I'm not having children. Do whatever you want to future generations.

You need to dance a jig or a set dance with a girl to see the attraction, its very physical, lots of bodily contact, great fun, and if all goes well, drunk and sweaty

Keep in mind the solo jig predates the Bra, so it had more going for it back in the day... and the arms were used too. I dont like that stiff backed arms rigid kind of style.

>> ^xxovercastxx:

But not all dances are mating rituals. I have a very difficult time finding this sexy, for example. It's hard to believe anyone finds a jig arousing.

I think there is something wrong with this but the issue is blurred. There's no hard and fast rule about what we allow children to do - we simply trust that parents show good judgement.

Yet many will allow children to imitate adult behaviour when they're not entirely sure of the subtext and it probably does erode their innocence and propels them too quickly into adulthood.

I'm no expert though as I don't even have kids.

Just a thought now; what if these girls were stripping down to their costumes as part of the performance? Too much or just adorable?