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23 Comments
SagemindWhy is it, the leaders we loved to hate yesterday, are becoming the voice of reason today?
Is this the new protocol and/or spin?
Or have things gotten so out of hand that even leadership has lost it's grasp and is trying to regain order from the loss they are suffering from selling themselves out to the corporations (AKA, a select group - aka the one percent??)
cosmovitellisays...Because the maniacs they spawned are inevitably worse - thats evolution! Wait ten years and Mitt Romney will be trying to restrain the gibbering genocidal imbecile who makes Dubya look like a genius..
entr0pyI appreciate what he's saying, but the fact that Colin Powell was down with the Bush/Cheney administration sort of ruins his credibility on the issue. McCain and Romney were both more moderate than the guy he worked for.
dystopianfuturetodayA lot of times, a little empathy is all it takes for a conservative to come around. I've heard many stories of conservatives changing their views on minorities after meeting minorities, changing their views on abortion after a loved one gets an abortion, changing their views gay marriage after a loved one comes out of the closet, etc.
I think the GOP's racism hit home for Powell, and opened his eyes to other problems in the Republican party.
nockWhen did Powell become a democrat?
chingaleraWhat fantasy world are ya selling?? More importantly, why does what Colin Powell says about another illusory world have to do with the price of tea in the hood?
A lot of times, a little empathy is all it takes for a conservative to come around. I've heard many stories of conservatives changing their views on minorities after meeting minorities, changing their views on abortion after a loved one gets an abortion, changing their views gay marriage after a loved one comes out of the closet, etc.
I think the GOP's racism hit home for Powell, and opened his eyes to other problems in the Republican party.
CreamKHmm, aiming for next election?
MrFisk*controversy
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A10anisI respect Powell, and I think he would have been a worthy President. I seem to recall him saying; "I don't want to be the first black president assassinated."
dystopianfuturetodayDo you disagree with the concept that empathy plays a role in tolerance? I'm not sure 'fantasy worlds' is the best topic for you, Mr. New World Order.
What fantasy world are ya selling?? More importantly, why does what Colin Powell says about another illusory world have to do with the price of tea in the hood?
chingaleraNo sir, empathy and tolerance go hand-in-hand, I'm not a fucking out-of-touch dinosaur- I ALSO recognize that racism is an issue that garners that gut-reaction simply from seeing the word typed or written on a page with certain types of peeps too distracted by ancillary clap-trap (pretentious, insincere, or empty verbiage) to have any effect whatsoever on the world of the "real", whatever one perceives that to be.

I see Colin Powell's talk of racism in the republican party as a complete non-issue as in, "Why should I give a fuck about this Uncle Tom, proverbial, "house-nigger" who acted anything like a general or statesman when he addressed the U.N. in a rambling justification for bankrupting the country into the Gulf War(s)-He should regret his actions under Bush and go fuck himself into obscurity and stay the fuck out of politics forever, kinna like Nixon when he bellied-up and bailed-out before impeachment, and was subsequently pardoned by that OTHER ineffectual tool, Gerald Ford.
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/06/13/colin-powell-regrets-u-n-speech-justifying-the-iraq-invasion/
The fantasy world I speak of you refuse to consider though under your nose where it rests and obfuscates world view.
The New World Order is happening, it's the mechanism of disinformation, obfuscation, world economic manipulation, etc, that has you right where you don't want to be, a willing slave, complicit in the breakdown of human societies worldwide. Welcome to the Matrix Wendy, enjoy your preoccupation with guns, racism, and voting booths
Oh, and for the record once again, I am apolitical and believe the parties democrat and republican interchangeable, and the equally meaningless terminology of political discourse in light of the fistfuck being perpetrated on all nations of the world, a complete and pathetic distraction.
The goddamn whore of Babylon wants your mind, money, and muscle and you're standing in line to be first on the train, in my , "fantastic" world of illusion.
Do you disagree with the concept that empathy plays a role in tolerance? I'm not sure 'fantasy worlds' is the best topic for you, Mr. New World Order.
chingaleraOh and you must understand dystop, how much I appreciate your pedantic, sophistic circles of light and reason
dystopianfuturetoday@chog
A lot of conservatives use this kind of 'I'm non-political', 'I'm non-partisan' type of language, usually in the middle of a highly political and partisan comment, as you have done here. Why is this? Do you not understand the meaning of these words?
You are extremely political and extremely conservative. Your views on race, guns, conspiracy theories, economics and the like are all pretty much your standard issue Texas Conservative fare.
I get that people would rather subscribe to elaborate fantasies about shadowy elite organizations seeking world domination than dealing with grim realities, but when you dilute serious conversations with dumb conspiracy theories, you are only serving as a distraction from the real life elite organizations that openly dominate our politics by light of day.
There are no reptilians or evil jewish bankers trying to enslave you. It's fiction, like Xenu and magic underpants.
lantern53says...This guy is the black McCain. He'll say anything to stay on the camera.
Anyway, Democrats are the racists. Democrats believe black people can't make it on their own. It was Republicans who passed the civil rights act. Now, the country-club Republicans don't like minorities, but neither do elitist Democrats.
dystopianfuturetoday@chingalera
I was reflecting on your response in the car, when I had a small epiphany. You state in your comment that you believe racism isn't real, but rather "pretentious, insincere, or empty verbiage" designed to evoke a 'gut reaction' in 'easily distracted peeps'. I imagine Colin Powell would disagree, yet you see his words as part of some large conspiracy. Then, unsurprisingly, you go on to call Colin Powell a 'nigger' in your next paragraph.
You are not able to experience racism as Colin Powell experiences racism (at least not on the receiving end); therefore your can't comprehend it; therefore, in your eyes, it must not be real. It would seem that you, like many conservatives, are unable to understand anything that you can't experience first hand.
So, I did a google search for 'empathy' and 'racism' and found an article that confirms my hypothesis.
Check it out: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/7771834/We-are-less-likely-to-feel-the-pain-of-people-from-other-races-a-study-suggests.html
xxovercastxxDon't want to speak for choggie; not sure I could anyway; but maybe because there is no longer a conservative party in this country?
I'm a bit conservative on certain issues. I would never want to be associated with the authoritarian loons of the modern GOP.
Then again, I'm opposed to political parties except possibly the relatively short-lived, single-issue variety. I'd never claim to be non-political, ether, so I guess I'm just speculating.
A lot of conservatives use this kind of 'I'm non-political', 'I'm non-partisan' type of language, usually in the middle of a highly political and partisan comment, as you have done here. Why is this? Do you not understand the meaning of these words?
You are extremely political and extremely conservative. Your views on race, guns, conspiracy theories, economics and the like are all pretty much your standard issue Texas Conservative fare.
Kofisays...And with that phrase all credibility evaporates. Enjoy the fantasy world.
The New World Order is happening...
chingaleraThen, unsurprisingly, you go on to call Colin Powell a 'nigger' in your next paragraph"
No sir, I did not. Go look up the term "house nigger" and "uncle Tom" and re-read my short rant in the context in which it was written and stop making "racism" the center of what you imagine my motivation. Colin Powell's skin color has very little to do with his track record and his actions in service to his handlers read like a character out of Stowe's fiction.
@chingalera
I was reflecting on your response in the car, when I had a small epiphany. You state in your comment that you believe racism isn't real, but rather "pretentious, insincere, or empty verbiage" designed to evoke a 'gut reaction' in 'easily distracted peeps'. I imagine Colin Powell would disagree, yet you see his words as part of some large conspiracy. Then, unsurprisingly, you go on to call Colin Powell a 'nigger' in your next paragraph.
You are not able to experience racism as Colin Powell experiences racism (at least not on the receiving end); therefore your can't comprehend it; therefore, in your eyes, it must not be real. It would seem that you, like many conservatives, are unable to understand anything that you can't experience first hand.
So, I did a google search for 'empathy' and 'racism' and found an article that confirms my hypothesis.
Check it out: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/7771834/We-are-less-likely-to-feel-the-pain-of-people-from-other-races-a-study-suggests.html
chingaleraEnjoying.
And with that phrase all credibility evaporates. Enjoy the fantasy world.
dystopianfuturetodayYou don't have to be a republican to be a partisan conservative. Parties and ideologies are not the same thing. If you argue politics, then, by definition, you cannot be considered apolitical.
Don't want to speak for choggie; not sure I could anyway; but maybe because there is no longer a conservative party in this country?
I'm a bit conservative on certain issues. I would never want to be associated with the authoritarian loons of the modern GOP.
Then again, I'm opposed to political parties except possibly the relatively short-lived, single-issue variety. I'd never claim to be non-political, ether, so I guess I'm just speculating.
dystopianfuturetoday@chingalera
The term 'house nigger' applies to an African American who supports racist treatment of his fellow African Americans. In this video, Powell is doing precisely the opposite, yet still you can't reign in your urge call him a 'nigger'.
I see through you.
xxovercastxxI agree, but we're used to seeing 'partisan' in reference to party loyalty or bias. I wonder if sometimes it's just a manifestation of not wanting to be associated with the GOP.
You don't have to be a republican to be a partisan conservative. Parties and ideologies are not the same thing. If you argue politics, then, by definition, you cannot be considered apolitical.
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