ColdPlay: Did They Rip off Satriani

I think he has a case, and I think he will win.
HenningKOsays...

Coldplay is one word. Please change the tags or title so people can find this in a search, and also to avoid dupes.
It's kind of an ugly attention-grab by Satriani, but I still dig his far out sound and hope he gets compensated in some way.

13150says...

I thought there had already been a case ruling that similar (or even identical) chord progressions didn't constitute plagiarism. That's why we have videos talking about how every song sounds the same and using a single chord progression to play a dozen different songs as proof. Now, if they had ripped off one of the many solos Satch does, that would certainly constitute plagiarism, but I think they can actually argue "inspiration" as a defense.

Duckman33says...

>> ^rottenseed:
also, the Verve's "Bittersweet Symphony" was a rip off of Rolling Stone's "The Last Time"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9QgpXhezIc


Quoted from: http://www.8notes.com/biographies/verve.asp

"The single was also very popular in the US, topping the charts at #12 (their highest position ever in the Billboards). The song, which borrows a looped sample of a symphonic recording of the Rolling Stones' 'The Last Time', was the soundtrack for many in the summer of 1997 and is considered one of the finest songs ever written."

So it seems it was an intentional rip off since it was sampled.

This is more of a blatant melody rip-off of Sat's music.

But like others have said, you can do look all day long and find hundreds of songs that have the same melody lines. These days it's pretty hard to not unintentionally rip some person or another off. Zepplin, for years has been accused of ripping off old blues artists for some of their material.

HadouKen24says...

Even if Coldplay did "rip it off," so what?

Creative works are creative even if they borrow from other sources. What makes them creative is how they use those sources. Whether or not you think Coldplay is a very good band or very original, their use of the melody constitutes a new work, a new take on an old idea.

If we were to make this a big deal, we'd have to get rid of Weird Al Yankovic. A whole lot of classical music is right out; they borrowed from each other all the time, riffing on each others' themes. DJ's would be out of work. They practice their craft by remixing and juxtaposing the very recordings done by other musical artists.

Come on, people. Let's not squash what little culture America has.

11807says...

I think the melody derived more from inspiration than blatant ripoff. It is possible that the two of them could have came up with the same sound by themselves, but that is rather doubtful. If this guy can sue Coldplay for plagiarism, then the Beatles should be able to sue Vanilla Ice for "Ice, ice, baby" ripping sound from "Under pressure".

Duckman33says...

>> ^SSIops:
I think the melody derived more from inspiration than blatant ripoff. It is possible that the two of them could have came up with the same sound by themselves, but that is rather doubtful. If this guy can sue Coldplay for plagiarism, then the Beatles should be able to sue Vanilla Ice for "Ice, ice, baby" ripping sound from "Under pressure".


Under Pressure was written and performed by David Bowie and Queen. Not the Beatles

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Under_Pressure

13150says...

>> ^HadouKen24:
If we were to make this a big deal, we'd have to get rid of Weird Al Yankovic.


Actually, Weird Al and similar parody artists are explicitly protected. Coolio tried to sue Weird Al for Amish Paradise and lost because parody was ruled to be sufficiently different from the original work.

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