Christianity Does Not Cause War!

Edward Current on YT: I show that war happens because of made-up religions from the Middle East. Plus, I prove that the Muslim "god" is fake!
ponceleonsays...

I realize that this guy is being sarcastic (though I admit that he's fooled me a few times before), but what is really frightening is that if you show this to someone in the bible-belt, they would probably think it is 100% sincere.

Xaielaosays...

I wouldn't doubt if some bible belters didn't think this guy was dead on, as ponceleon said. But I bet even outside the belt there would be some who still totally agree with him.

Funny thing is just the other night I was watching Religulous with a friend of me who is Christian. I myself am agnostic with some pretty out-there beliefs, but I'm a realist so I don't take ANYTHING on faith. Now, mind for a christian my friend is pretty much a realist as well. He doesn't believe in Adam and Eve, he knows the most the stories in the bible are totally made up. But at the same time he has some odd beliefs. He thought christianity was the oldest religion in the world at once. He is absolutely certain jesus was a man and all his miracles were true.

Anyway it gets to the part where they are at the museum showing ancient humans and dinosaurs living together as well as one dino with a saddle on it's back. I laughed, saying these people had to be complete ostriches with their heads in the sand to even SAY they believe dinosaurs and humans lived together. What does my friend say to this?

"Well, there may have been one time when like raptors and tyranosaurs lived at the same time that early humans did."

As you might imagine.. I was somewhat taken a back. Even explaining to him that dinosaurs died out or evolved tens of millions of years before the earliest ancestors of humans even existed. But he said to me 'the bible says there were dinosaurs so, there must have been.'

I rolled my eyes.. I wasn't about to argue farther but I couldn't believe me ears. How can a modern, rational, technically minded human being believe this stuff? He was raised very hard-core christian but still.

rougysays...

I think that the basis of Christianity is fear of the unknown, coupled with dogmatic conditioning at a very early age.

I also think, as many do I'm sure, that for some funny reason most of the Chistians that I know don't act very much like Christ.

ElJardinerosays...

Xaielao ... how can an "agnostic with some pretty out-there beliefs" and a christian who doesn't believe in the bible but at the same time does and mistakenly believes it tells of dinosaurs be realists?

That's one fucked up reality.

[defunct] Morganthsays...

Xaielao - the Bible never mentions dinosaurs, trust me, I have a minor in Biblical Studies from a Christian college.

Also, I really don't think I have a single Christian friend who would have thought this was real, even for just a moment.

ajkidosays...

>> ^ElJardinero:
Xaielao ... how can an "agnostic with some pretty out-there beliefs" and a christian who doesn't believe in the bible but at the same time does and mistakenly believes it tells of dinosaurs be realists?
That's one fucked up reality.


A-fuckin-men.

MaxWildersays...

^ Too true. And the easiest way to have such freedom is to profess faith in a religion then ignore it's fundamental tenets and rationalize your rule breaking. Whereas if you build up your morality on your own, without preconceived notions of "sin" and the petty commands of a false god, it tends to be stronger because you understand it to the core. After all, any moral code is only as strong as its foundation.

You don't have to worry about doing the right thing when you believe in unquestioning heavenly forgiveness.

Edeotsays...

>> ^quantumushroom:
No dogma can compete with the 'freedom' and flexibility of no moral code/making sh;t up as one goes along.


Seriously. My atheist buddy is always getting on my back about owning slaves. I already told him it's cool cuz they respect me as a Christian. I don't need his made up morality - I got the Bible!

Christians who are slaves should give their masters full respect so that the name of God and his teaching will not be shamed. If your master is a Christian, that is no excuse for being disrespectful. You should work all the harder because you are helping another believer by your efforts. Teach these truths, Timothy, and encourage everyone to obey them. (1 Timothy 6:1-2 NLT)

bluecliffsays...

What is 'political religion'? posted by lenin

Michael Löwy has a lovely article on Walter Benjamin and capitalism-as-religion in the latest issue of Historical Materialism. I strongly recommend you get yourself a copy. But what Löwy doesn't say is that the final stage of capitalist religion, according to Benjamin, is Satanism. This is from The Arcades Project, composed between 1927 and 1940:

On Satanism: "When the puritans at the Council of Constance complained of the dissolate lives of the popes ..., Cardinal Pierre d'Ailly thundered at them: 'Only the devil in person can still save the Catholic church, and you ask for angels.' In like manner, after the coup d'etat, the French bourgeoisie cried: Only the chief of the Society of December 10 can still save bourgeois society! Only theft can still save property! Only perjury can save religion! Only bastardy can save the family! Only disorder can save order!" Marx, Der achtzehnte Brumaire, ed. Rjazanov, p. 124.

bluecliffsays...

you satan worshiping whores!

Even the arch-atheist Marx knew very well that religion was the opium of the masses, the HEART OF A HEARTLESS WORLD - as most people fail to mention the first part of the quote.

What he precisely meant was that it's not illusion that defines religion, as most of your anglosaxon rationalist philosophy would have it, but that its healing power and ability to alleviate suffering is the problem.
It's not a distortion of knowledge as such, the cold knowledge of empirical facts, but, the dehumanizing aspect of a substitute for meaning.

In your endless idiotic, moronic, cretenophile attacks on religion, you fail to percieve a core of human truth in the bowels of religion, and thus reveal yourself as utter slaves before the system of oppression which created you.

quantumushroomsays...

Too true. And the easiest way to have such freedom is to profess faith in a religion then ignore it's fundamental tenets and rationalize your rule breaking.

Yeah, yeah, that hypocrisy only happens with and to the religious.

Atheists, of course, are immune from rationalizing and self-delusion. I envy such moral clarity, which they were no doubt born with.

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