these old tighty whities are like snipers, with their old gold guns sniping and Neil from behind the hedgerow waiting for the round of applause from their white C u nts sipping that english tea

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This was a panel called "The Storytelling of Science". Couldn't fit it in the tags.
https://origins.asu.edu/events/science-myth-and-reality

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Easy there, Nye - Neil stood up for you quite recently, so don't go dissing him.
Epic reply, though.

Boosting this quality contribution up in the Hot Listing - declared quality by Zawash.

Or video title could be
"Tyson makes a valid point and is shot down by some geriatrics"

Tyson is correct. And that is why psychology is mostly hocus pocus and we have yet to develop artificial intelligence.

Sheesh, Bill Nye makes a joke (and a decent one at that), and the whole world comes unhinged.

Why is Tyson correct? What's the line of reasoning?

Seriously, is Tyson high here?

Remember, Bill Nye got his TV start on a sketch comedy show in Seattle called "Almost Live" (one of my all time favs growing up).

And that statement might be the biggest bunch of crap I've read on the Sift in this last week, considering that psychology is fundamentally rooted in neuro-biological reactions to our environment (an evidence-based hard science).

In saying that it's possible the 'answer of consciousness' could come from somewhere completely unexpected, or unrelated, to what people are thinking now. Like the example he gave where it took something completely new (General Relativity) to explain Mercury.

It seemed pretty self-explanatory in the video.

I think Tyson was actually stoned or otherwise impaired, and Nye was calling him out. Watch his behaviour from the start imagining he's smoked a big bowl before going on stage.

His statements are related, but really not logically connected. He overexplains things people already agree on. His statements seem profound and philosophical to him, but not to anyone else. He is unaware of his physical space (his arms). He loses his place in his thoughts and has to go back and work them out before he can continue... or maybe he just says something else at random, like, "...there is no such thing as consciousness at all..." to save face because his initial train of thought plunged off a cliff.

Tyson's only interesting statement before Nye spoke was to suggest Dawkins' question was wrong, or at least premature as he wonders, "...whether there is no such thing as consciousness at all".

It is a silly suggestion because we all agree we experience consciousness, therefore, de facto, it exists, as an experience. The question is why we have the experience, not whether we have it. This conclusion that experience of consciousness might not exist is what Nye was reacting to because Tyson hadn't said anything yet about where our understanding of it might come from.

After Nye's comment, Tyson says our understanding of consciousness might come from some place altogether unexpected. Most answers to the big questions do. That's why they're big questions. So to a scientist, that's an unremarkable statement, not worthy of comment. But you can't go from there to, "asking why is a bad question". Tyson's analogy with the procession of Mercury was a bad one because nobody suggested that perhaps Mercury's procession didn't appear out of whack. It did. People only asked why it did.

Agreed. Thats also why psychology is actually mostly mathematics. Ask any 1st semester student. Its really just cause and effect. What really shocks me all the time is that most people just dont get this simple fact.

That's because most people have read stuff like Jung and Freud, and are too stupid to understand that all that talk about ghosts and using cocaine to cure psychosis of the nose is actually just simple math. Totally is.

Consciousness is a poorly understood term and barely scientific.

Tyson just can't stand not being the smartest person in the room so he compensates by ensuring that he's the center of attention.

He's always been very proud of everything that comes out of his mouth. Is the first time anyone else noticed?