Bill Maher ~ New Rules (October 29th 2011)

New Rules from October 29th 2011
shagen454says...

Always glad to hear positive comments about psychedelics in the media. I definitely know that mushrooms made a positive impact on my life. But, I definitely wouldnt push acid around lightly. Its certainly magical but I have my reservations about that drug. Although, nothing has been proven I think acid does have minute but negative long term side effects and plus its more visual which is awesome but doesnt have the same sort of introspection psilocybin has... in my opinion. Of course it is different for everyone and with acid, the dose is a major factor. Everytime I took acid I had to 'recover' the next day.

Oh and psychedelics probably shouldnt be used by kids, but I dunno since I only smoked pot when I was a kid.

Skeevesays...

I'm absolutely fascinated by LSD. From its mind-opening effects (at least two Nobel Prize winners were under the influence when they made their discoveries) to its analgesic properties (recent research suggests it doesn't stop pain, but your brain just stops caring about the pain) it just seems like something we should be paying more attention to. Its unfortunate that, thanks to the US government's attempts to stop the "hippies" LSD was made illegal even for legitimate scientific study (except in rare cases) all over the world. I'm so glad that a few organizations (some in Canada, some in Switzerland and some elsewhere) have begun to ignore these insane, knee-jerk laws to do serious research into LSD.

VoodooVsays...

Not to derail too much, but I watched that episode. Cornell West showed far more restraint than I could have. I probably would have punched Ron Christie in the throat for attempting to maintain that the Iraq War was still a good idea. I love how he invokes the three thousand people who died on 9/11 but conveniently ignores the hundreds of thousands who died in the following wars.

kceaton1says...

Psychedelics (Psychotropics; and their main "term" in the next sentence) are definitely interesting mind wise. As I have in my own profile, Psychoactive drugs are indeed ALL very interesting.

This can include something as mundane as Codeine all the way up to LSD. Quick Message: Cocaine and Heroine are the same "type" of drugs technically: i.e. changed perception, mood alteration, etc... But, these ARE very dangerous to play with, versus the reward you receive: the reward here being an expanded mind that has the ability to understand any information from the remembered mental states that are achieved at the height of the drugs half-life in the body. Typically, specifically with shrooms or Psilocybin, it will create a calm-well being, and positive affirmation after affect that will even defeat depression in certain cases. This has been researched in atleast two studies that I've seen, Bill also talks of yet another--yet, he didn't mention that there is a 1% chance, and it may actually be lower than that now with further testing, that a "bad trip" will occur causing the reverse, but luckily not lasting in a long-term manifestation like the "good-trips".

There are generally two ways your going to enlighten yourself. Drugs like Marijuana will give a "high". Hopefully, with a mental state induced called: euphoria. The euphoric effect will allow you to feel very much "mood-stabilized". If you were depressed euphoria can completely reverse it, which can cause problems as it may cause you to become "psychologically addicted" to it due too it's affect; especially if depressed and more-so if you have an addictive personality trait in your genes (if this were Cocaine it would most likely always lead to a downward spiral and death). This is how many people lose the addiction game with bad drugs like Cocaine and Heroine, or even the Codeine you're doctor prescribes you. Anyway, the Euphoria allows many people to reach a level of peace and comfort that they can't otherwise. The sheer change in the organization of how you synapses fire to give you perceptual information, memories, and your own thoughts--have changed from your normal state. You literally think different. But, when you start to think about what you're working on, the same ideas no longer come back as they did just before you started to use: they come back changed. This is where change happens, it's where inspiration can come from.

For drugs like acid it becomes even easier to understand why you may think much greater things. Once the drug works it starts linking many of your perceptual areas, with your thoughts together into one giant drawing board. Sometimes, most of the time your subconscious mind, specifically your dream center starts to play with you using random memory sequences or perceptual information. Then when it fully takes hold you leave Earth as you've known it, while the drug is in full affect (this is why usually friends get others to watch over them, lest you do something incredibly bad--this is also why you really shouldn't play with the scarier drugs). It's very easy to see where these great ideas come from now, as now you are walking in a dream that is semi-controlled and mostly not. It begins to add random merging patterns, what the overall goal of the mind is at this point most likely is just to link all the information together; like a new song with a DJ. But, the experience is a lot like a journey, sometimes without prodding you will literally walk into a room with the "treasure chest", or the game changing idea that you need.

What you truly get in the end is the ability to realize that the human body is grand, with the brain a magnificent structure, designed in simplicity, but able to grow to see past that simplicity, that structure, those people that never went and looked, and you see the men that can stand on the shoulders of giants. Those that push the envelope.

If it was me go for shrooms, acid, and marijuana. But, read up on each and every one first so you know what to expect and NOT what to do to jeopardize your life; lastly, this is ILLEGAL...). All of these type of drugs are able to create a very unique experience while active on your active brain. Hopefully, like may others in history you can act like a Psychoactive compound on our collective psyche, as many have before.

/long but hopefully informative
//they're still Illegal...
///edited for grammar

Xaielaosays...

It was a 'really' good episode. The part about the mushrooms and acid was spot on. There are so many antidepressants and antipsychotics out there that are fucking people up more than fixing them. I had some mind-altering experiences with Acid and mushrooms in my 20's and I truly do believe I'm a wiser and more open person today because of them.

Granted I also once had a bad trip on some particularly nasty eye drops and woke up naked the next morning at a big party. But what the hell!

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