*lies, and you can vote for your own video.

Read this.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expelled

Adding video to channels (Lies) - requested by Fjnbk.

Wow, Ben Stein just dropped a few points in my book.

As an atheist, I don't agree with Ben Stein but I accept and support his 1st amendment rights to believe whatever he wants. He makes a valid point about people who are persecuted about their beliefs and there is a major gap in the Darwinian evolution theorem which allows for this argument.

Have to agree with bodybuzz. And it never ceases to amaze me what a fucking moron O'Reilly is. He can't understand why they can't at least mention that there may be a creator in school? Cause schools don't teach religion, ya twat. That's what parents and churches are for. It's OPINION. Science is based on observable and empirical evidence that can be tested again and again with the same conclusion. When religion can pull that off, then you'll have some legs to stand on. Until then, it's all Santa Claus.

Since when does the biological/ genetic community consider evolution a weak theory? Last I checked, scientists and companies are making money off of certain applied evolutionary principles. To call evolution a weak theory because there are some misunderstood aspects in it is no different than disagreeing with the theory of gravity, something way less understood than evolution or genetic mutation.

Unlike religion, science doesn't allow you to pick and choose what's right and wrong, you need to prove it. We've never seen an actual picture of an atom, but I don't think people could possibly disagree with the atomic model. Scientists are shutting down the intelligent design theory because it can't be proven, and even if it could be, there's no real way to apply it to anything physical.

Upvote for the Lies factor alone.

Dear God, should I upvote for the lies or downvote for the sheer ignorance? Hello? God? Helloooo... God? Are you there? He must be working in his mysterious ways right now.

agree with dmaze; disappointed.

the flying spaghetti monster has more legs to stand on.

Did Ben Stein just say "maybe we're stupid?"

Watch teh slightly tedious "A Man From Earth", about a caveman who was really jesus. it's kewl.

just one teaspoon full of super AIDS in your ass and yer dead in three years btw.

This crap is starting to make me sick.
I am an atheist. My wife is a Christian.
The reason we don't argue about this?
BECAUSE IF YOUR THEORY IS THAT GOD CREATED EVERYTHING, THEN IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT NEW SCIENTIFIC THEORY COMES ALONG.

Evolution? GOD DID IT.
Dinosaurs? GOD DID IT.
Big bang? GUESS WHAT!!

I support anybody's rights of free speech in America but this argument is getting tired.

And for the literalists who think that the world is only around four thousand years old? Stop working on the sabbath(Exodus 35:2). Stop wearing clothes made of multiple fibers(Lev. 19:19). Cut all contact with any woman on her period(Lev. 15:19-24). And start stoning to death, anyone who doesn't comply(Lev. 24:10-16).

In short, whether you believe or not, some parts of the Bible are either allegory, or you're stupid.

And one more thing: How exactly does a country that is 70% Christian, persecute christians for their beliefs? Aren't we maybe throwing the word persecute around just a little to much?

I respect you but when you start throwing around words like persecution and intolerance. It sounds like your asking for a fight. And you still outnumber us almost ten to one. So suck it up a little will ya?!?!?!

It amazes me how, even after this court case in Dover(http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/id/program.html nice PBS documentary about it), ID people still try so hard to get this into schools. Now theres a legal precident against it and it, without a shadow of a doubt, shows that it is in no way scientific and these "gaps" in evolutionary "theory" are either not there or overstated for effect. Hell, it was proven that, word for word, the ID guys just replaced the word Creationism with ID throughout their books. Sloppily at that, leaving the wonderful phrase, "CIntelligent Designonists".

I guess they get credit for being persistent.. but slamming your head into a wall over and over doesn't get you through it..

Wow, you could cut the smugness in here with a knife. Aren't you all so clever.

Screw atheism, I'm taking up Buddhism.

IF evolution and "Intelligent Design" were equally valid theories, then yes, of course you should be allowed to teach it in science class. The problem is that they are not by a freaking long shot equal. Natural Selection has many holes, certainly, but that's only because we haven't gotten all the data yet. The amount of statistical data for evolution is staggering. The amount that directly contradicts evolution are excatly nil.

The first amendment has nothing to do with education. Freedom of speech is not what a classroom is about. And religion does not equal or even overlap with science. Hell, you don't hear about gravity in sunday school either.

By the way, I'm beginning to upvote all these stupidities and lies, because I think that people will recognize them and reject them - you can't enlighten people by supressing it - that's what dictatorships do.

O'Reilly Does remind me of burnt talking turd....
Its amazing how his opinion becomes "fact"

wtf? that was really Ben Stein's argument? we don't know, so we should be able to make up the answer?

"Hey kids, Jesus made the first primordial life, (then came back 5 billion years later to die for you sins, but I can't tell you that part in school). If that doesn't make sense, well, we just made it up because science hasn't nailed down an answer yet."

I used to think Ben Stein was a pretty smart guy. It makes me very sad to see him leading this charge against reason.

Ben, they're not trying to shut you up because you disagree with them, they're trying to shut you up because your "theory" is completely unscientific, and has no place in the scientific community. It's not persecution, it's like a fat ugly girl demanding to be crowned Miss America because it's her constitutional right. It's not. You are not having your free speech repressed, you are being rejected for stupidity. Big difference.

You are free to preach your nonsense in church or print, or on the street corner. But if a scientific committee decides to pull funding from somebody who is doing something that's not scientific, that's not censorship.

Heh, on re-review I catch that Ben Stein says:

"Darwinism was a brilliant theory in the beginning of the 19th century, but we're in the 21st century"

To which you can only say, ID is still creationism, which was a great theory before we learned that it was false, some 400 years ago. Duurh.