Unfortunatly you cannot make it eligal to be a retard , and thats the issue at hand , has nothign to do with clothing but the ablity for people to be so uterly retarded that they want to cover there face up and ware uncomfortable things not bassed on scentific fact but on some old manuscript bassed on old stories created by uneducated desperate and supersitois people.

Yeah, I've heard this argument before, but no matter which way I look at it I just can't make any sense out of how you are supposed to make people MORE FREE by FORBIDDING THEM TO DRESS HOW THEY WANT.

It's not the right place to start and it's not the right way to go.

>> ^westy:

Unfortunatly you cannot make it eligal to be a retard , and thats the issue at hand , has nothign to do with clothing but the ablity for people to be so uterly retarded that they want to cover there face up and ware uncomfortable things not bassed on scentific fact but on some old manuscript bassed on old stories created by uneducated desperate and supersitois people.


But how do you really feel?

_{I kid, I kid.}

>> ^Lithic:

Yeah, I've heard this argument before, but no matter which way I look at it I just can't make any sense out of how you are supposed to make people MORE FREE by FORBIDDING THEM TO DRESS HOW THEY WANT.
It's not the right place to start and it's not the right way to go.


Granted it's not a good way to fix anything, but you can see their thought process- Forbid men from requiring their wives to wear burqas by banning the burqa. Of course they'll just force their wives to never leave the house...

>> ^Lithic:

Yeah, I've heard this argument before, but no matter which way I look at it I just can't make any sense out of how you are supposed to make people MORE FREE by FORBIDDING THEM TO DRESS HOW THEY WANT.
It's not the right place to start and it's not the right way to go.


That's a fine thought process..

If that's what the women actually want.

Who knows what the women want? with their culture generally they're stifled out by the 'dominant' men. There was an episode of no reservations once, I don't remember exactly where his was, but the women all had to wear burqas. Black, full body burqas, in one of the hottest places on earth, while the men got to wear whatever they wanted, be it a white robe, or westernized clothing.

I can't help but think that the woman probably DO want to wear something completely different, but don't speak out because it's A) against the religion, or B) going to upset the 'dominant' males.

This is a way I see for them to finally have some form of freedom, even relinquishing a bit of their religions control, because there's finally a reason to defy it.

I'm an American ex-pat living in Belgium and while headscarves are pretty common, I'm not sure that I've ever seen a burqa with the face-veil (though it may be more common in Brussels which is almost 25% Muslim).

Police here do NOT like not knowing who you are. When police ask, you're required to show them your ID with a computer chip in it, which you have to have on you at all times. So this bill is partly because Europeans always want to know about you (when you move somewhere, you always have to register with the local townhall for example) and they want to see someone's face. But it is also because they're unhappy with the growing Muslim community. The majority of Middle Eastern immigrants don't have an interest in integrating into Belgium society.

Also, France just passed a burqa ban in June making them the first European country to do so. The bill is still in limbo here in Belgium because of this summer's election.

Belgium instituted a temporary worker program in the 60's that brought over lots of Turks to help with the growing economy because Belgium's population was still hurting from World War II. Both the Turks and the Belgians wanted it to be temporary (the Turks wanted to make lots of money then return home and the Belgians wanted the economic help and then to for the workers to leave), but it didn't quite go as planned. Anyway, that's a little bit of where this came from...

>> ^Shepppard:

>> ^Lithic:
Yeah, I've heard this argument before, but no matter which way I look at it I just can't make any sense out of how you are supposed to make people MORE FREE by FORBIDDING THEM TO DRESS HOW THEY WANT.
It's not the right place to start and it's not the right way to go.

That's a fine thought process..
If that's what the women actually want.
Who knows what the women want? with their culture generally they're stifled out by the 'dominant' men. There was an episode of no reservations once, I don't remember exactly where his was, but the women all had to wear burqas. Black, full body burqas, in one of the hottest places on earth, while the men got to wear whatever they wanted, be it a white robe, or westernized clothing.
I can't help but think that the woman probably DO want to wear something completely different, but don't speak out because it's A) against the religion, or B) going to upset the 'dominant' males.
This is a way I see for them to finally have some form of freedom, even relinquishing a bit of their religions control, because there's finally a reason to defy it.


What do they want? The ones that actually wear the burqas probably wouldn't be able to tell you. If even from childhood your own father and most of the other men in your life (and maybe the women too) are telling you that you're a second-rate citizen or less of a person because of you're gender, I imagine that after a while you start to believe it.

It sort of depends on the strictness of their up-bringing. When you see little girls who are 2-years old wearing headscarves, you know that they're going to be the teenagers wearing them. When the parents don't care, they're in jeans and t-shirts and that really pisses off some of the older generation. A few months ago I overhead two elderly Turkish women on the tram complaining that "too many good Turkish girls dress like infidels these days."

So...at the Behest of Belgians there's a Binding Blind Ban on Bipedal Body "Bark", Be they Bourgeois or Beggarly...what's next? Bidding Both Burquas AND Beards Bye-Bye? How Banal...

(*i win*) lol

Generally all Europeans are Racist.

>> ^laura:

So...at the Behest of Belgians there's a Binding Blind Ban on Bipedal Body "Bark", Be they Bourgeois or Beggarly...what's next? Bidding Both Burquas AND Beards Bye-Bye? How Banal...
( i win ) lol


And we may simply call you "B"

>> ^Yogi:

Generally all Europeans are Racist.


I'd downvote such a petty (and horribly false) accusation, but I don't have the superpowerpoints to do so


Mind telling us where you get this insight from, Yogi? No wait, I think I have an idea...

>> ^hpqp:

>> ^Yogi:
Generally all Europeans are Racist.

I'd downvote such a petty (and horribly false) accusation, but I don't have the superpowerpoints to do so

Mind telling us where you get this insight from, Yogi? No wait, I think I have an idea...


I got it from the Joke Fairy.