Arkansas Mother Obliterates Common Core in 4 Minutes!

Common Core is bad m'kay.
Esoogsays...

This is something that really does deserve more attention. Sadly, Common Core, is another case of administrators and legislators making uninformed dumb decisions.

draak13says...

She made a really good case. I had no idea things were this bad. This really does need more attention.

However...as a person presenting an argument, citing the trembling in your voice (3:40) to merit the importance of your argument doesn't work...especially when you are trying to refute that this isn't just a group of hysterical middle class mothers less than 30 seconds prior.

lurgeesays...

I totally agree. For the past few months I have been following this subject. I had no clue it would get so many upvotes. This is definitely a part of the deliberate dumbing down of murica.

Esoogsaid:

This is something that really does deserve more attention.

kayuzasays...

18 students in a class, by what number did each student count by to reach the number 90. (90÷18=5) Student 1 would say "5," student 2 would say "10," etc.

spawnflaggersaid:

What was that math question example?
(even rewatching it I couldn't understand what she said)

brycewi19says...

Bravo. CC is a terrible, terrible set of standards that I wish my home state of Washington were not so extremely gung-ho on. Frankly, I'm very saddened by all of this.

Educational standards ought to be made by the home districts, who have the ability to take in to account the context of each community, not at the federal/corporate level.

dannym3141says...

Unbelievable. Our world is being run by imbeciles and the corrupt.

There are people out there in the world that dedicate themselves to learning information, refining methods, trying to make things better for everyone. They should be running countries. But instead, we've got men with hardly any qualifications and hardly any life experience.

Instead of gathering in a room and listening to community representatives telling them exactly how we want our money spent, the top brass are actually sat in a cushty conference room with a buffet and champagne, copping backhanders and selling us down the river.

When did the general populace suddenly fall into this groove of 'civilisation' - this unspoken belief that The Government are all-seeing, all knowing, and always out for what's best in the long run. We, collectively, have just been taken for billions and billions of dollars or pounds or whatever you use by a collection of the world's richest people. They have not been held to account, and in fact they've somehow convinced us to pay them back what they've lost. Imagine if you lived in a wild west village and you'd paid the sheriff every week to protect a safe with everyone's money in it, and he'd been out at night gambling it away. You'd be fucking furious, an angry mob would be at his door. But for some reason we're all docile about the exact parallel of that situation happening in reality.

We really need a paradigm shift in public consciousness, because the metaphor has progressed, right now that wild west village is under martial law and being run through intimidation by a gang. We don't live in some fantasy world where some unseen force is ensuring fair-play. We are the people who have to strive to ensure fair play in everything otherwise we're just letting people rob us. Literally.

We can't progress like this. In charge of the UK's education system is a guy who has never had any experience teaching whatsoever, let alone teaching under the current system, let alone qualifications in teaching. There's a petition on to have him do a week of teaching so that he can understand just how badly he's ruining everything. This is a real person like you or me and he's in charge of running the education system. We're all standing by watching someone we know is incompetent do a complicated job. Half of us wouldn't even admit to being able to do that job if we were offered it, but this fucking bumbling posh moron takes the wheels with the manic grin of an idiot that feels no fear. Dashing the wheel left and right, we idly watch on as he plays around to see what will happen, crossings our fingers nothing bad happens.

Lawdeedawsays...

dannym, dannym, dannym...

You can't be further from the truth. We are run by competent men and women who find that they wish us not to be intelligent. Intelligent = less power. (Even those who are dumb know who to follow to make the buck.)

It's that mindset, that they are dumb, that allows them to rule through cunning and vile-minded force. Who, then, is the imbecile?

dannym3141said:

Unbelievable. Our world is being run by imbeciles and the corrupt.

There are people out there in the world that dedicate themselves to learning information, refining methods, trying to make things better for everyone. They should be running countries. But instead, we've got men with hardly any qualifications and hardly any life experience.

Instead of gathering in a room and listening to community representatives telling them exactly how we want our money spent, the top brass are actually sat in a cushty conference room with a buffet and champagne, copping backhanders and selling us down the river.

When did the general populace suddenly fall into this groove of 'civilisation' - this unspoken belief that The Government are all-seeing, all knowing, and always out for what's best in the long run. We, collectively, have just been taken for billions and billions of dollars or pounds or whatever you use by a collection of the world's richest people. They have not been held to account, and in fact they've somehow convinced us to pay them back what they've lost. Imagine if you lived in a wild west village and you'd paid the sheriff every week to protect a safe with everyone's money in it, and he'd been out at night gambling it away. You'd be fucking furious, an angry mob would be at his door. But for some reason we're all docile about the exact parallel of that situation happening in reality.

We really need a paradigm shift in public consciousness, because the metaphor has progressed, right now that wild west village is under martial law and being run through intimidation by a gang. We don't live in some fantasy world where some unseen force is ensuring fair-play. We are the people who have to strive to ensure fair play in everything otherwise we're just letting people rob us. Literally.

We can't progress like this. In charge of the UK's education system is a guy who has never had any experience teaching whatsoever, let alone teaching under the current system, let alone qualifications in teaching. There's a petition on to have him do a week of teaching so that he can understand just how badly he's ruining everything. This is a real person like you or me and he's in charge of running the education system. We're all standing by watching someone we know is incompetent do a complicated job. Half of us wouldn't even admit to being able to do that job if we were offered it, but this fucking bumbling posh moron takes the wheels with the manic grin of an idiot that feels no fear. Dashing the wheel left and right, we idly watch on as he plays around to see what will happen, crossings our fingers nothing bad happens.

Lowenjokingly says...

Yeah, it's really dumbing our children down if they're taught how to solve new problems rather than just being taught specific solutions to specific problems.

Cry some more about how the educational standards expect students to work the problem out themselves rather than use a rote memorized solution. It's not like they'll eventually need to do so if they get to higher level math.

The example given is such a great word problem. It's neither useful in everyday life, nor does it demonstrate the student knows how to do anything beyond knowing a solution for that specific problem and the ability to to basic division. Oh wait, that's not great at all.

Also if you or your kids need to memorize multiplication tables by rote in order to learn fractions, you and/or they are dumb.

sift_user_01says...

I actually feel the federal government has a very large role in trying to improve educational standards for the US. A well educated populace benefits everyone. I don't have children but I'll gladly pay taxes to help educate your child, and I feel all children in the country should be given an opportunity to learn the same things.

If all standards were done at the local level, how many places in the bible belt would be teaching all students that the Earth is 6000 years old and AIDs is God's way to punish gay people?

I'm not saying common core is good, nor do I think the federal government should be telling teachers how to teach the subjects, but I do believe the federal government should have a big voice in trying to make sure all children receive a proper education to benefit the entire nation as a whole.

brycewi19said:

Educational standards ought to be made by the home districts, who have the ability to take in to account the context of each community, not at the federal/corporate level.

direpicklesays...

In a society where you expect the children to never leave their home communities and where their future education and job are predestined by where they live, that might make sense. I don't want that kind of stratification. That opens up situations where Bible belter children are never exposed to evolution (for an easy target), or where some district just up and decided that heck, their kids never need to learn long division.

The ideal is a society that's much more fluid than that, and the reality is that this is a world where not only are the children from rural Arkansas going to be competing with the ones from NYC for colleges and jobs, but with people from all over the world. Kids can already be extremely hampered just because of where they went to school, which is what the CC (I'm assuming good intentions) was supposed to help. Obviously it is not doing a good job, but I think it's a matter of implementation rather than the idea itself.

brycewi19said:

Educational standards ought to be made by the home districts, who have the ability to take in to account the context of each community, not at the federal/corporate level.

sift_user_01says...

Since both of us appear to be thinking about the same lines, the problem with common core isn't what it is trying to teach. Making sure people know how to do multiplication is good.

The problem is it is telling teachers how they must teach, and students how they must learn. This is the problem, and thankfully it is the problem most people identify with it, it is the same problem the parent here identifies with it. It isn't the what of common core, but the how.

direpicklesaid:

Kids can already be extremely hampered just because of where they went to school, which is what the CC (I'm assuming good intentions) was supposed to help. Obviously it is not doing a good job, but I think it's a matter of implementation rather than the idea itself.

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