Are You a Feminist? And Do You Know What That Means?

Pop Roulette gets deep. Watch as they join the national conversation about feminism. Only one problem... We're not quite sure if they're all on the same page as far as what feminism actually means. (rightthisminute)
Shepppardsays...

I'm not a "Feminist" I am, and forever shall remain an "Equalist". Enough with this "Lets fix one problem at a time" bullshit, Race, gender, stature, age, everyone deserves the same rights, why don't we try to push forward for the betterment of everybody?

My biggest complaint about Feminism is basically how misunderstood the goal actually is by some, to the point where it gets waved around like a banner for college girls saying that their sex is superior (Think basically Britta from community personified.)

I've just been called an ass too many times by the *feminists in my last paragraphs to actually call myself by that name anymore, but I think Equalist suits my personal beliefs better anyway.

*=I use the term "feminist" in this sense as the ones who more hinder the cause than help it by making themselves obnoxious.

dystopianfuturetodaysays...

I don't want to take a MATH class and only learn MATH, I want to take an EVERYTHING class so I can learn EVERYTHING. /s

Feminism is about equality for all, it's just useful to be able to specify a category/focus. It's not about female superiority or 'special rights'. Being concerned with equal rights for woman does not preclude your ability to support rights for other groups. Feminists are concerned about male rights and male well being as well. The word has been under assault from right media for a long time now.

Shepppardsaid:

I'm not a "Feminist" I am, and forever shall remain an "Equalist". Enough with this "Lets fix one problem at a time" bullshit, Race, gender, stature, age, everyone deserves the same rights, why don't we try to push forward for the betterment of everybody?

My biggest complaint about Feminism is basically how misunderstood the goal actually is by some, to the point where it gets waved around like a banner for college girls saying that their sex is superior (Think basically Britta from community personified.)

I've just been called an ass too many times by the *feminists in my last paragraphs to actually call myself by that name anymore, but I think Equalist suits my personal beliefs better anyway.

*=I use the term "feminist" in this sense as the ones who more hinder the cause than help it by making themselves obnoxious.

Shepppardsays...

I'm fairly certain that I've never looked into anything to do with feminism in the media, mostly because I don't watch or read news most of the time. My opinion comes through interaction, and my interaction, both with the crazies and the not crazies, has never been about anything other than fighting for womens rights. Not a bad thing, but it wasn't the umbrella that you make it out to be.

You also contradict yourself with your own sarcasm. You seem to think it's cool to make a sarcastic comment about my ideal about Equality and fighting for everyones rights at once, then say that feminism is about fighting for everyones rights at once.

Also, just throwing this out there: anywhere you look at a definition of the word "Feminism" it's straight up about equal treatment for women. Again, not a bad thing, but fight for everybody.

dystopianfuturetodaysaid:

I don't want to take a MATH class and only learn MATH, I want to take an EVERYTHING class so I can learn EVERYTHING. /s

Feminism is about equality for all, it's just useful to be able to specify a category/focus. It's not about female superiority or 'special rights'. Being concerned with equal rights for woman does not preclude your ability to support rights for other groups. Feminists are concerned about male rights and male well being as well. The word has been under assault from right media for a long time now.

dystopianfuturetodaysays...

Sorry you didn't appreciate my sarcastic attempt to show the problem with your logic. Let me try again, sans humor.

Every type of prejudice has its own unique characteristics. It's fine and good to be for equality for all, but that's not a good justification for being against analysis and criticism of specific types of prejudice.

Just because the NAACP is focussed on racism against black people does not mean it is somehow against equal rights for all. Just because the ADL is focussed on racism against Jewish people does not mean they are against rights for all. Just because the SPLC is focussed on classicism doesn't mean they are against rights for all.

In short, having a specific focus makes study, research and criticism easier. The choice you create between feminism and equality for all is a false one as feminism and equality for all are in no way mutually exclusive.

You also mention you have not looked deeply into feminism. If this is a topic that interests you, maybe you should.

Shepppardsaid:

I'm fairly certain that I've never looked into anything to do with feminism in the media, mostly because I don't watch or read news most of the time. My opinion comes through interaction, and my interaction, both with the crazies and the not crazies, has never been about anything other than fighting for womens rights. Not a bad thing, but it wasn't the umbrella that you make it out to be.

You also contradict yourself with your own sarcasm. You seem to think it's cool to make a sarcastic comment about my ideal about Equality and fighting for everyones rights at once, then say that feminism is about fighting for everyones rights at once.

Also, just throwing this out there: anywhere you look at a definition of the word "Feminism" it's straight up about equal treatment for women. Again, not a bad thing, but fight for everybody.

ChaosEnginesays...

That's not what @Shepppard said. He said "I've never looked into anything to do with feminism in the media" (emphasis mine) in response to your point about how the word has been under assault in the media.

For the record, I am for treating everyone equally and as such, I'd call myself a feminist. At the same time, I think it's a terrible choice of word. We don't call anti-racists "blackists" or "jewists", or lgbt supporters "gayists".

Personally, I'm with Joss Whedon

dystopianfuturetodaysaid:

You also mention you have not looked deeply into feminism. If this is a topic that interests you, maybe you should.

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