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Promoting this video and sending it back into the queue for one more try; last queued Tuesday, October 11th, 2011 11:11am PDT - promote requested by Lann.

A few good points (particularly that "pray in your closets, not to be seen of men" is consistently ignored) but mixed in with a lot of ham-handed and pointless non-humor. Americans have large waistlines. Nice. I could see having that as a placeholder, like "make fat American joke here" - but at some point you have to either come back and put in an actual joke or you need to just skip that line.

It's hard to do both commentary and humor - this video did a very lazy run at the former and almost no attempt at the latter. That said, regardless of content, the stupid vocal affectation would have still made this unwatchable. Yes, I get the general reference. No, it doesn't add enough to the video to outweigh the annoyance.

But it'll get a pass, I'm sure, because it's making fun of the right people to be accepted in the political climate here. Make no mistake; I don't like the people this video is making fun of, it's just not a good video.

Different strokes...
>> ^jmzero:

A few good points (particularly that "pray in your closets, not to be seen of men" is consistently ignored) but mixed in with a lot of ham-handed and pointless non-humor. Americans have large waistlines. Nice. I could see having that as a placeholder, like "make fat American joke here" - but at some point you have to either come back and put in an actual joke or you need to just skip that line.
It's hard to do both commentary and humor - this video did a very lazy run at the former and almost no attempt at the latter. That said, regardless of content, the stupid vocal affectation would have still made this unwatchable. Yes, I get the general reference. No, it doesn't add enough to the video to outweigh the annoyance.
But it'll get a pass, I'm sure, because it's making fun of the right people to be accepted in the political climate here. Make no mistake; I don't like the people this video is making fun of, it's just not a good video.

Brilliant.

Warmongering and judging are fine against non-christians, and 'no divorce' is more a catholic thing. It's nice to be able to pick and choose what rules you believe in and find a church that suits you.

Funny how the many denominations of christians today don't appreciate the lack of a state religion, and how it would be the only officially recognized religion, and the rest would get no special benefits, like tax exemption, etc. But then I'm betting every church believes they're the one true church, and they'd be the ones chosen. Maybe not having a separation of church and state would make things a bit awkward at this point.

It'd be funny to watch though.

>> ^hpqp:

Different strokes...
>> ^jmzero:
A few good points (particularly that "pray in your closets, not to be seen of men" is consistently ignored) but mixed in with a lot of ham-handed and pointless non-humor. Americans have large waistlines. Nice. I could see having that as a placeholder, like "make fat American joke here" - but at some point you have to either come back and put in an actual joke or you need to just skip that line.
It's hard to do both commentary and humor - this video did a very lazy run at the former and almost no attempt at the latter. That said, regardless of content, the stupid vocal affectation would have still made this unwatchable. Yes, I get the general reference. No, it doesn't add enough to the video to outweigh the annoyance.
But it'll get a pass, I'm sure, because it's making fun of the right people to be accepted in the political climate here. Make no mistake; I don't like the people this video is making fun of, it's just not a good video.



People who don't agree must be PURGED!!!

Hahah, she has a point! We do ignore out waistlines... And what does that say about our damned species?

Obesity is kind of worse than God because A-we ignore it even though we have proof of it (Unlike God) and B-It always destroys what it touches in some way or another (Society, self, self esteem, healthcare, etc.)

I wonder hp, you think religion is crazy in every form, which is fine and understandable (Even though we seem genetically favored towards that insanity,) but I can't imagine how crazy you think obese people are (Especially since most people are not genetically favored towards obesity but we sure get there )

@Lawdeedaw

Obesity and religious beliefs can hardly be paralleled the way you do. Obesity is largely caused by a change of diet affected by processed foods (corn syrup anyone?) and an extremely sedentary lifestyle, made worse by the fact that it is often cheaper to buy unhealthy/processed foods. Moreover, it is quite possible that genetics are involved in a person's likelihood of being obese (http://www.cdc.gov/Features/Obesity/). Do I think obese people are crazy? No. Like you said, the fat is there, you can feel it, you can taste the 10th liter of coke you're guzzling. I may consider the morbidly obese highly irresponsible, or perhaps mentally ill in cases of obsessive binge-eating, but it is not akin to the superstitious beliefs of religion that one is indoctrinated with as a child. Of course, stuffing one's kid with unhealthy food when an alternative is possible is at best the result of ignorance, at worst irresponsible neglect.

Btw, humans may wired to project agency (thus evolving superstitious beliefs), but religious belief is a matter of indoctrination. Recent studies are showing that young children will not naturally offer supernatural explanations for phenomena (see also this article).

p.s.: one can be overweight and still live a happy and successful life... obesity does not necessarily "always destroy what it touches".

I love Betty! If you are on Facebook follow her fan page. She is hilarious.

And the sifts hatred for Christianity has officially become a parody of itself..

^

hpqp, I think you are judging things based on Switzerland. But since this video mentioned American waistlines, I speak for America... We don't believe obesity is an epidemic (Even though it is over 25%...) Most don't believe children should be taken even when it is clearly abuse... Conservatives wonder why healthcare is so fucked up but those corn-fed boys and girls are part of the problem...

(All the above is not just ignorance, it's disbelief and/or denial.)

Now, I will reiterate, obesity and religious beliefs, despite your single objection, can be paralleled the way I do.

Not believing in something that is apparent and proven is equal to or greater than believing in something that is insanely speculative and based on fantasy.

For example. I don't believe in global warming, STDs or cats... Crazy as believing in god? I think so. But you are free to disagree as you have quite clearly done so.

The reason I thought you considered obese people crazy-ish is that they are posioning themselves. And parents? You say "neglect," but would you feel the same way if parents poisoned their children with mercury instead of simply dangerous overfeeding? I mean, one may be quicker, but that doesn't really make either right (The obesity will probably be around for their entire lives, as studies have shown, and/or the effects of the obesity...)

Lastly, you did it again. You left out the single part of my point that makes it defensible. Obese people can live a life without problem. Nowhere in my post did I say contrary, despite what you noted. "B-It always destroys what (Not "who") it touches in some way or another (Society, self, self esteem, healthcare, etc.)"

In other words, even though it may not destroy a person's life, even though a person can live fine being obese, it does destroy. In America, for example, it's okay to be obese. I mean 1/4 of us our, so why not? Let's just let it spread is now the motto. It is no longer a sickness, it is just a personality trait. And that is a crazy disbelief of something real.

p.s., Sorry this reply took so long.


>> ^hpqp:

@Lawdeedaw
Obesity and religious beliefs can hardly be paralleled the way you do. Obesity is largely caused by a change of diet affected by processed foods (corn syrup anyone?) and an extremely sedentary lifestyle, made worse by the fact that it is often cheaper to buy unhealthy/processed foods. Moreover, it is quite possible that genetics are involved in a person's likelihood of being obese (http://www.cdc.gov/Features/Obesity/). Do I think obese people are crazy? No. Like you said, the fat is there, you can feel it, you can taste the 10th liter of coke you're guzzling. I may consider the morbidly obese highly irresponsible, or perhaps mentally ill in cases of obsessive binge-eating, but it is not akin to the superstitious beliefs of religion that one is indoctrinated with as a child. Of course, stuffing one's kid with unhealthy food when an alternative is possible is at best the result of ignorance, at worst irresponsible neglect.
Btw, humans may wired to project agency (thus evolving superstitious beliefs), but religious belief is a matter of indoctrination. Recent studies are showing that young children will not naturally offer supernatural explanations for phenomena (see also this article).
p.s.: one can be overweight and still live a happy and successful life... obesity does not necessarily "always destroy what it touches".