Alan Grayson breaks down the NSA scandal

Congressman Alan Grayson (D-FL) explains the scandal surrounding the National Security Agency (NSA), and his view on the matter. He describes the known public details of the program and recent American history of domestic surveillance. -- YT
HenningKOsays...

What would happen if Google, for example, just refused to comply?
I feel like people would stand up for Google a lot more readily than they would for the 4th amendment... certainly any of these corporations is a lot more popular right now than the government. What could they possibly threaten with that wouldn't trigger a massive pro-Google outcry and martyrdom?

scheherazadesays...

Laws apply to the geographical area in which the establishing state has domain.
The constitution is a set of laws.

If you are inside the bounds of the U.S. and/or its territories, all U.S. laws apply.
(Unless the laws themselves say 'does not apply to <group X>').

All persons outside the bounds of the U.S. are not covered by U.S. law.
(Hence why extraordinary rendition is so useful to the U.S. government - it's a way to avoid U.S. laws.)

-scheherazade

aaronfrsays...

No telling. But it is worth noting that Qwest was the lone telecoms holdout under a similar program during the Bush administration. Result: all government contracts cancelled and CEO in jail for 'insider trading'. Not saying this is a direct result, but there are real consequences to not playing ball with the powerful.

HenningKOsaid:

What would happen if Google, for example, just refused to comply?
I feel like people would stand up for Google a lot more readily than they would for the 4th amendment... certainly any of these corporations is a lot more popular right now than the government. What could they possibly threaten with that wouldn't trigger a massive pro-Google outcry and martyrdom?

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