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fizziks says...

Yes, Yes, Yes, YES!! Thank you (once again) Jon!

You know, I still find it strange that he is Comedy, and CNN/Fox/ABC/CBS are News... MSN (Main stream News) could easily do Jon's schtick (ok without the humor), but choose not to... Every time I laugh at a Daily Show/Colbert clip, it also makes me want to cry that this isn't being done by a "real" news agency.

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Maher on Palin

fizziks says...

>> ^HadouKen24:
>> ^fizziks:
I agree that the joke was poorly crafted and could have been phrased in a way that didn't open Maher to misinterpretation, but the truth behind his message is more important in my view: Palin is a gimmick VP pick.

Not actually true. It might seem like it from a quick survey of her biographical details on paper, but she's actually been under serious consideration for the VP spot for months.


I appreciate your thoughtful reply however I still disagree. You bring up valid points as to why Palin may bring McCain some votes, but by 'gimmick' I didn't mean ineffective at bringing votes. She may have been McCain's best option, but that doesn't mean she's not a gimmick either. In fact, she could have been the best choice BECAUSE she was a gimmick. He had many qualified candidates (including another women) who had more experience, yet he went with the new kid on the block. Why? Gimmick power!

The fact remains that despite some good short term work in Alaska, she lacks experience in pretty much EVERY area a VP (and potential President should the worst happen to McCain) requires to be effective.

Furthermore, just because Palin was under consideration for many months doesn't make her selection any less of a gimmick. At best it makes her a well contemplated gimmick.

I understand you're not endorsing her (or McCain, or anyone), but to me, McCain is being a big hypocrite by simultaneously criticizing Obama over "lack of experience" and then turning around and picking a VP who is the least qualified of anyone.

It's a blatant attempt at trying to bring a younger, "change-esk" image to the Frankenstein-Robot-Dance-Party that is the McCain campaign, and hence my belief she is a gimmick. Palin shamelessly went for the Hillary vote which should offend Hillary supporters as Palin is further from Hillary than McCain. She even contradicts some of McCain's viewpoints!!

She is a pretty face that McCain is using as a trojan horse to inject energy and interest in his campaign. And it's working, look at all the attention he has received simply by PICKING her. Obviously McCain is hoping she will help him get into the good books of those studying "the good book" without raising as much of a stink as some of the other choices would have. In many ways, McCain took Huckabee, gave him an awesome sex change operation, a pretty face, erased his job experience, and danced him-her out on stage as the VP.

She ran on a clean government ticket, and she's worked hard to excise corruption from the Alaskan government, even up to firing entire boards and replacing them with new members.

It should be pointed out that many of her decisions to fire government employees have also been criticized as being unfair. There are many sides to these stories.

At the end of the day however, I don't think we actually disagree on that much. You point out good reasons McCain asked her to join the ticket, and I agree with most of them. However, I don't think those reasons contradict the fact that she is a gimmick.

Maher on Palin

fizziks says...

>> ^BillOreilly:
make fun of the kid with Down's Syndrome, nicely done Bill, we've come to expect nothing less from your pathetic attempts at humor


>> ^RedSky:
Yeah that was pretty bad taste, even by Maher standards.


>> ^xxovercastxx:
He didn't make fun of the kid; he just mentioned him and returned to making fun of Palin.


I have to agree with overcast on this one, if anything it was a jab at Edwards and/or the wisdom of having a child at 43 years old (regardless of whether the child has any problems). He wasn't making a joke ABOUT down syndrome, he just mentioned a fact.

I agree that the joke was poorly crafted and could have been phrased in a way that didn't open Maher to misinterpretation, but the truth behind his message is more important in my view: Palin is a gimmick VP pick.

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