Here in Portland Oregon, A kid with a AR-15 walked into Clackamas Mall on Dec 11 to kill as many people as he could. He shot 3 people and his gun jammed, while he was fixing his jam, a citizen with a conealed carry permt drew his weopon and confronted the shooter, The shooter fled down a stairwell and shot himself. The mall was a gun free zone (the guy with the CCW was breaking the rules) and filled with thousands of holiday shoppers. The rampage was ended because one person could defend himself from the cowardly nutjob. You will not see the real story in the mainstream media.

You are saying we should BAN guns and TALK about how to handle the mentally ill?
How about we DO something about mental health , and also continue to let people TALK about gun control all they want. I would bet the second scenerio would be more helpfull .
Do these other western nations you speak of pepper the populace with mind altering drugs like the USA does? Id like to hear the stats .
I will admit I'm going out on a limb about prescribed drugs and todays shooter, but Im betting tomorrow or the next couple days , we will find out what kind of meds he was on, then those findings will be forgot, and people will talk about how bad guns are.
I mean if thought patterns are your problem than address things that effect your thoughts.

This is all obviouslly very tragic.
@BoneRemake . School shootings are not only an american phenomenon. There have been similar tragidies all over the world. I believe one of the more famous ones happened in england, some guy shot a bunch of children. The outrage led to the gun control that england now has.
@Kofi, instead of talking about banning guns for all citizens, we should talk about what to do with the mentally ill. Im guesing this shooter is going to be on some kind of prescription phsycoactive drugs. I think most of the people that do this kind of thing are always found to be on meds. and under a doctors "care".
Also, its not front page news for some reason but, A man in china slashed 22 children in a vicious knife attack today (no , Im not kidding) . I hear its a growing trend , with many mass slashings lately, and some blame the bad economy.

In my hometown this was known as a "weed container".
>> ^Fusionaut:
That black, cylindrical object is an ancient artifact known as a "film canister."

I love old knowledge like this! I had never heard of this before, cant wait to try it.

Ok, I'll start with a few things that most people would probably agree with, but the police force currently would fight like hell to avoid. How about we decide to actually punish cops who break existing rules and laws. Use testing to weed out unbalanced power hungry or corrupt types from becoming cops. QUIT hiring COMBAT veterans to become PEACE officers. I'm sure there are many things that could be done to fix the problem with the police, its just that it's not being done because the police think the only problem is that we, the lowly people, dont always follow ALL commands,and sometimes we need to be put in our place. >> ^shveddy:
False dichotomy, among other things. There are innumerable intermediate steps between "allowing them to do whatever they want to you" and "shooting the motherfuckers." I'll admit that there is a point where armed resistance is warranted, but if you think that we have arrived anywhere near that point with enough frequency to warrant armed resistance, then you are crazy.
Yes, there are plenty of instances of people's rights being violated - but in 99.99% of those occasions, I think the problem can best be solved through other means.
Do I think that the students who got peppersprayed at UC Davis had their rights violated?
Yes, I do. But this guy seems to suggest that the proper response is for the students to pull guns and start a shoot-out. Let's imagine what that would look like for a second:
One of the students peers through the caustic mist with righteous fury and a wet t-shirt over his mouth. He can feel the comforting weight of his Barretta, held close to his heart in a chest holster, and he knows that this is the moment to act. He stands up tall despite the onslaught of bright orange asphyxiation, reaches for his piece and takes aim. Somewhat startled, the officer is suddenly defenseless with his canister and it is not long before he crumples to the ground in an ever expanding pool of blood. He basks in a brief moment of clarity before chaos reigns. His fellow students are quick to bear arms themselves, but the training, body armor and poise of the officers allows them a significant head start and the students suffer heavy casualties in this initial volley.
Not to be deterred by the deaths of their friends, the occupy movement takes up refuge in the life sciences building which, designed in the late sixties with a brutalist aesthetic, is mostly concrete and as such is a perfect fortress from which to outlast the ensuing siege and inspire innumerable citizens on the outside world to take up arms as well. Guerrilla warfare is the only tactic effective in such asymmetrical circumstances, and after a few weeks of violence the powers that be succumb to international pressure and agree to negotiate with the 99%...
...or we could launch an official investigation, fire the guy as a scapegoat after an admittedly long, expensive and cumbersome process, and let the public outrage that ensued lead to a more cautious approach to future student protests. Bloggers and editorialists collectively write millions of words on the subject, increasing awareness and generally shaming the agency that allowed it to happen.
Not perfect, but a whole hell of a lot more civilized.
Any time you use guns against a government entity in he US, you will eventually be caught and put in jail. Period. The only way to avoid this is to be a small part of a large popular movement that eventually overthrows the US government, and I don't see that ever happening with citizen gun-owners unless it involves guerrilla tactics. Imagine gunfights erupting at your local municipal buildings. Imagine pipe bombs at your local police station. People need to realize that this is what they are advocating when they argue for second amendment rights as a fourth check and balance.
If you disagree with that statement, feel free to fill in a reasonable sequence of events to span the gap between "guy whose fourth amendment rights are violated guns down cop" and "said guy is vindicated, and massive changes are made to our law enforcement policies." I suspect that we are far more likely to see a greater militarization of the police in response.
I humbly propose that we join the civilized world and come up with more creative ways to correct our problems.

Ya, thanks squirrel. Thanks for bringing me down! I liked the idea of aliens puttering around on the earth , making stuff, whimsical, neat stuff, that was very easy for them to do. Now I know, it was just us , making slaves build dumbass superstitous stuff. Not cool.

I cant believe the family man ran away and let a nutcase get between him and his family! He didnt even run away from his family, as if to lure the nut away. He almost hid behind his family! The sucker puncher had to act, the nut was too close to the woman and child. Ohh Canada

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>> ^csnel3:
I've been feeding a nearby family of crows for a few years now. My hope is that, out of gratitude, someday they will bring me one of their young ones to raise as my own.

What about a seagull? You made one drunk. <IMG class=smiley src="http://cdn.videosift.com/cdm/emoticon/tongue.gif">


I hate to say it , but , seagulls are kind of dimwitted compared to crows. In the air seagulls are gracefull but on the ground they are just clumsy gluttons. Crows on the other hand, are the real deal, they are VERY good fliers, and on the ground , they hop , skip, run , jump around with style. Crows are obviously thoughtfull, perceptive, curious, cautious and playfull, . Dont get me wrong, I could be friends with a seagull, but I think I would enjoy bonding with a crow more.

I like the face she makes as she describes her boobs as Two Ballons. It make my pervy side happy. Also , I like her with her hair up, I just realized she looks a lot like Wynonna Ryder.
Oh, and Stormsinger...Boobies , boobies, boobies.

She has a lot in common with Diva Plavalaguna.
Im sure she is very talented and this may appeal to the Pinkies Out crowd, but youll never find this on my IPoD. I'll compare this to shitting out a Presto_log, its a very rare and difficult act, but I wouldnt want to watch it or listen to it.

I've been feeding a nearby family of crows for a few years now. My hope is that, out of gratitude, someday they will bring me one of their young ones to raise as my own.

well...that escalated quickly.

so, he dropped a black head and a mollusk found it and startred licking it? and the doctor took pictures of a mollusk licking a black head and included it in his slideshow? Well done, good sir!

This supports "The expanding Earth" theory.