@theali

More about the legal situation here... from Reuters, surpisingly.

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE65133D20100602

By the way, here is how you should react when your ship is boarded:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRzQNsumRRU

@gwiz665

Then why use the pretext of "aid"? Why not say they were going there for battle.

Thank you for sharing this footage.

Notice how the dopey Westerner considered everyone there "soldiers".. sigh.

This is the future of civilization.

Automation is the most logical step over importing labour from the excess population of third world countries. It's more sustainable and more humane.

>> ^moodonia:

Like I said earlier, I'd be interested to see Greta Berlin "foolishly flaunting... plans to smuggle ordnance and weapons into Gaza".
Also what has ancient history got to do with commandos raiding a ship? Apart from diverting the disscusion.
>> ^Pprt:
Strange that everyone is ignoring the first video I referenced, as if what they were chanting has no bearing...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3L7OV414Kk
They are chanting a traditional song about Muhamad's massacre on Khaibar, the Jewish settlement that he raided in 628~9. Ten thousand Jews were killed and Muhamad ordered the leader be tortured before he appropriated the widow. As a matter of course, he helped himself to the coffers.
Since Wikepedia is liked by the liberal persuasion, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Khaybar
You can contest the translation if you wish, but please pay attention to a word the lady uses: Shahada.
Listen for the same words in these clips http://www.pmw.org.il/tv%20part1.html



It was on the radio.. afraid I can't find a copy online.

Do you think the Khaibar chant was just a little ditty to pass the time?

>> ^Samaelsmith:

>> ^Pprt:
Strange that everyone is ignoring the first video I referenced, as if what they were chanting has no bearing...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3L7OV414Kk
They are chanting a traditional song about Muhamad's massacre on Khaibar, the Jewish settlement that he raided in 628~9. Ten thousand Jews were killed and Muhamad ordered the leader be tortured before he appropriated the widow. As a matter of course, he helped himself to the coffers.
Since Wikepedia is liked by the liberal persuasion, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Khaybar
You can contest the translation if you wish, but please pay attention to a word the lady uses: Shahada.
Listen for the same words in these clips http://www.pmw.org.il/tv%20part1.html

I won't question the translation but I would like a clarification of what you think shahada means. All I can find is that it is a religious declaration saying basically "There is no god but God, and Mohammed is his messenger."


Correct. The Shahada is a declaration of Islamic faith. If you repeat it three times you're considered a Muslim.

Its meaning has been twisted to represent being the act of "martyrdom" (read suicide bombing) by hardline Islamists. I used the quotes because a martyr is someone who would lay down his/her life for a cause. A martyr doesn't intend to take someone else's life.

Someone who has done the Shahada in the latter sense is called a Shahid, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shahid

Good on you for looking into it, Samaelsmith!

Strange that everyone is ignoring the first video I referenced, as if what they were chanting has no bearing...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3L7OV414Kk

They are chanting a traditional song about Muhamad's massacre on Khaibar, the Jewish settlement that he raided in 628~9. Ten thousand Jews were killed and Muhamad ordered the leader be tortured before he appropriated the widow. As a matter of course, he helped himself to the coffers.

Since Wikepedia is liked by the liberal persuasion, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Khaybar

You can contest the translation if you wish, but please pay attention to a word the lady uses: Shahada.

Listen for the same words in these clips http://www.pmw.org.il/tv%20part1.html

>> ^campionidelmondo:

>> ^Pprt:
The issue here is that Israel checks incoming cargo through the Ashdod seaport. Goods are then given to go-ahead to be moved into Gaza.
The ship that was boarded was the among the six vessels that chose to disregard the Israeli security protocol and insisted on docking and unloading directly into Gaza without proper clearance.

And who gave Israel the right to decide which goods are allowed to go to the Palestinians?


The same right any country enjoys: ensuring its security.

Some activists a la Greta Berlin and the IHH were foolishly flaunting their plans to smuggle ordnance and weapons into Gaza. They got exactly what they were seeking.

The issue here is that Israel checks incoming cargo through the Ashdod seaport. Goods are then given to go-ahead to be moved into Gaza.

The ship that was boarded was the among the six vessels that chose to disregard the Israeli security protocol and insisted on docking and unloading directly into Gaza without proper clearance.

^Fair enough.

Enjoy this next video of "peaceful humanitarian aid workers" that hope for martyrdom http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wc6vqsQoCY0

Please see:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3L7OV414Kk

and

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bU12KW-XyZE

and

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYjkLUcbJWo

How is this brief?

Americans need to stop it with the auto-flagellation.

Stupidity is global.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3zv2cmJV-k

Didn't want to step on your territory, mate. Also to avoid a dupe.

Won't really comment on the event (I was on it the MINUTE it broke because of my job), because the images speak for themselves.

I'll just add with seething irony how wonderful I think it is that the Western universities who created the modern world have become champions of censorship and stifling debate.

Mind using http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6NzfR5X8Is ?

It has more context..