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Jefferson Memorial Dancing on June 4 2011

NordlichReiter says...

The more important lesson here. Is that the courts cannot, and shall not pass arbitrary, and stupid laws without the will of the people, and that will must be explicit. Especially laws that abridge the 1st ammendment by putting zones were you can express you're speech.

Tourists would do well to understand what the United States is truly about. It's not about memorials, or government it's about the goddamned, god given, rights of the people. Whether god exists or not.

Give it a week or two and people won't be dancing at the fucking memorial. For fucks sake. I hardly expect one or two people dancing in a fucking memorial is going to disrupt tourism. Now, passing an arbitrary law to make it a crime to dance in a memorial is sure, as fuck, going to disrupt tourism.

Who's to decide what dancing is? What if a tourist whips his or her hair back and forth? Take a minute to think before passing arbitrary laws that are too loose in their language.

For fucks sake some tourist could get dizzy and all suddenly they're nauseous swaying is fucking dancing.

The protesters while annoying, are fucking correct in they're actions. It would do well for all of us to take note on effective protest of a stupid law.

Female Australian Politician Gets Meowed At for Assertivness

Police State: Arrested For Dancing in the Jefferson Memorial

NordlichReiter says...

>> ^d3n4l1:

It's a Memorial, not a Dance Hall. It's not a place for self-expression. It's a place of reverence for Thomas Jefferson.
The building is very old. Visitors can be counted in millions every year and doesn't need dancing to be appreciated. Dance outside, no one will have a problem with it; some may understand, but really, you'll just get strange looks.
It was not a dance troop. The dancing wasn't for dancing's sake, it was for protest. Again, it's not a place for political or personal expression. It's a place for reflecting on one of the greatest men that ever lived. Be silent to allow your fellow countrymen to be as mindful of Jefferson as they can in their visit. No one is there to see anyone dance, and no one is there to see anyone protest that they can't dance.
That was a truly lame. Is nothing sacrosanct?


Nope. Not when it comes to the freedom of expression. Thomas Jefferson would feel the same way, I'm also under the impression he wouldn't give two fucks about a memorial to himself.

Biggest domino pyramid EVER... almost.

Peaceful Protest in Spain meets non peaceful Police

NordlichReiter says...

That's just how I feel about it. On second thought what can you really do against authority like that?

Absofuckinglutley nothing, as we've seen on numerous occasion. The law, has, and always will be on the side of the enforcers.

Jose Guerena SWAT Raid Video From Helmet Cam

NordlichReiter says...

>> ^hpqp:

>> ^Sarzy:
Umm... I know we're supposed to automatically be outraged in cases like this, but if I have the story right, the man was pointing an AR-15 at the cops as they came through the door. Google that -- it's a pretty serious looking gun. Were the police supposed to wait until he started shooting at them and only then fire back? They had the siren going before they came in, they yelled something before they broke the door down, so what else were they supposed to do (other than not be there at all)?

If the man was pointing a rifle at the swat/door, then the shooting is comprehensible. There is quite a difference between this and the downright manslaughter without justification in this video.
Where I live, we have the opposite problem: cops can barely defend themselves without the general public going ape-shit and instantly siding with the alleged culprits. In Geneva, a group of gangsters robbed an exchange bureau with automatic rifles, came out guns blazing at the cops during traffic hour (i.e. many civilians around...)
and now one of them is attacking the Geneva police in court, because he was shot although allegedly unarmed. (article en français)


That's only true if the cops had reason to be there in the first place. Which brings me to another problem, the issuance of search warrants without due diligence by judges. Proposed amendment to the 4th should be


The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, on the penalty of perjury , and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized. In the event that a search warrant is found to have been enacted wrongly and bodily harm is caused to the defendant, or anyone associated at the time and place of the warrants execution, the executing officers, all present at the time of execution, are to be be punished for whatever harm has come upon the defendant and or any associates. The minimum penalty for a wrongful death shall be a charge of manslaughter. Furthermore any property damages, including livestock, or household pets, shall also warrant appropriate restitution and punishment.


They lied about the shooting, they haven't said whether they found drugs or not. I'm inclined, as I always am, to not believe a word of what an officer says; let alone the organization they work for.

In short, full on criminal investigation into every, fucking, one of the bastards. The people deserve, no, are guaranteed the right to be safe in their persons, and properties.

Ron Paul "The Last Nail"

NordlichReiter says...

Anyone know which bill he's referring to?

He is referring to what I think is the H.R. 1540

With the infamous endless war section 1034.

Here it is in all of it's glorious unconstitutionality.


SEC. 1034. AFFIRMATION OF ARMED CONFLICT WITH AL-QAEDA, THE TALIBAN, AND ASSOCIATED FORCES.

Congress affirms that--

(1) the United States is engaged in an armed conflict with al-Qaeda, the Taliban, and associated forces and that those entities continue to pose a threat to the United States and its citizens, both domestically and abroad;

(2) the President has the authority to use all necessary and appropriate force during the current armed conflict with al-Qaeda, the Taliban, and associated forces pursuant to the Authorization for Use of Military Force (Public Law 107-40; 50 U.S.C. 1541 note);

(3) the current armed conflict includes nations, organization, and persons who--

(A) are part of, or are substantially supporting, al-Qaeda, the Taliban, or associated forces that are engaged in hostilities against the United States or its coalition partners; or

(B) have engaged in hostilities or have directly supported hostilities in aid of a nation, organization, or person described in subparagraph (A); and

(4) the President’s authority pursuant to the Authorization for Use of Military Force (Public Law 107-40; 50 U.S.C. 1541 note) includes the authority to detain belligerents, including persons described in paragraph (3), until the termination of hostilities.

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Seattle cop kills nonthreatening pedestrian

NordlichReiter says...

We're gonna stack up like we're breaching and clearing! That's what we're going to do!

Let's breach and clear that non existent door!


The shooting was a "good faith mistake, however tragic" and no charges would be filed, Satterberg said.


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/41632205/ns/us_news-crime_and_courts/t/seattle-cop-who-fatally-shot-woodcarver-quits-force/

It was a good faith mistake! Go fuck yourself Satterberg. This fucking guy. Killing someone, unjustly, is manslaughter at the least if not murder.

Rand Paul Speaks Against the Renewal of the PATRIOT Act

NordlichReiter says...

Wonderful how the Democrats are bypassing the filibuster for the a Neo Con bill.

Yet they couldn't bypass a filibuster for anything else. While my previous statement is probably not true, it expresses my sentiment.

Boxer doesn't think he can get knocked out

Nuclear expert warns Fukushima is "Chernobyl on steroids"

NordlichReiter says...

>> ^MaxWilder:

Note this video is from Mar 16, 2011.
While still a terrible disaster, it is being ranked behind Chernobyl in terms of magnitude.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fukushima_I_nuclear_accidents


I've been seeing posts on reddit about meltdowns in 3 or 4 of the cores. A full on china syndrome in the 1st reactor. There's radioactive sludge in a city outside of the 20km exclusion zone. http://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/hebf2/fukushima_nuclear_core_meltdown_confirmed/

At this point there's so much bullshit here that I have to put on my fucking hazmat suit.

At this point, just arguing about how it is or is not like Chernobyl is a bunch of bullshit. It just muddies the fucking waters so much that no one knows what the fucking truth is.

People are saying it melted right after the quake, people are saying it melted sometime after the quake, people are saying it could be in a runaway state right now.

In short, I wouldn't trust jack shit the government of Japan says, or TEPCO (They have a monetary interest in making things sound less dangerous).

http://www.iaea.org/newscenter/pressreleases/2011/prn201106.html

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I'm not enjoying the trolling on the Sift. (Horrorshow Talk Post)

Alan Turing - My Favourite Scientist

NordlichReiter says...

Touched.. by tragedy?

What, a fucking, understatement. Given a choice between imprisonment or hormonal treatment? As if they can.. cure the gay away. Touched by tragedy doesn't even begin to describe the kind of stupidity exhibited in this case, by society, no less.


In January 1952, Turing met Arnold Murray outside a cinema in Manchester. After a lunch date, Turing invited Murray to spend the weekend with him at his house, an invitation which Murray accepted although he did not show up. The pair met again in Manchester the following Monday, when Murray agreed to accompany Turing to the latter's house. A few weeks later Murray visited Turing's house again, and apparently spent the night there.[48]

After Murray helped an accomplice to break into his house, Turing reported the crime to the police. During the investigation, Turing acknowledged a sexual relationship with Murray. Homosexual acts were illegal in the United Kingdom at that time,[49] and so both were charged with gross indecency under Section 11 of the Criminal Law Amendment Act 1885, the same crime for which Oscar Wilde had been convicted more than fifty years earlier.[50]

Turing was given a choice between imprisonment or probation conditional on his agreement to undergo hormonal treatment designed to reduce libido. He accepted chemical castration via oestrogen hormone injections.[51]



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Turing#Conviction_for_indecency


On 8 June 1954, Turing's cleaner found him dead; he had died the previous day. A post-mortem examination established that the cause of death was cyanide poisoning. When his body was discovered an apple lay half-eaten beside his bed, and although the apple was not tested for cyanide,[54] it is speculated that this was the means by which a fatal dose was delivered. An inquest determined that he had committed suicide, and he was cremated at Woking Crematorium on 12 June 1954.[55] Turing's mother argued strenuously that the ingestion was accidental, caused by her son's careless storage of laboratory chemicals. Biographer Andrew Hodges suggests that Turing may have killed himself in an ambiguous way quite deliberately, to give his mother some plausible deniability.[56] Others suggest that Turing was re-enacting a scene from the 1937 film Snow White, his favourite fairy tale, pointing out that he took "an especially keen pleasure in the scene where the Wicked Witch immerses her apple in the poisonous brew."[57]



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