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Radical Proposal for the Queue, PQueues, and Beggar's Canyon (Sift Talk Post)

MINK says...

i just had a vid die in the queue, it's not total shit, and there's probably 10 people on here who would appreciate it. The only thing i can think of to fix that problem is to remove time zone bias and allow us to filter by "favourite users" so we don't miss the obscure stuff from our sift buddies.

people get obsessed with "what sifts" but i care more about "what i watch" and of course "how can i get to my kind of stuff quicker?". If i had a stream with all my favourite sifters vids in it then i wouldn't care if they sift or not because i could see them easily anyway.

anyway, i like jonny's radical proposalism.

Radical Proposal for the Queue, PQueues, and Beggar's Canyon (Sift Talk Post)

MINK says...

^very well put, and another very good point there about new users. I think if I arrived here now I would be very put off by the size of the FAQ (if that many Q's are being A'ed F'ly then maybe the system is too complicated?)

Also the many menu buttons, submenu buttons, sidebars, headers and footers are just bewildering (and expensive to serve afaik).

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Radical Proposal for the Queue, PQueues, and Beggar's Canyon (Sift Talk Post)

MINK says...

all this is crap. Edeot you say this is complicated then you write 4 tweaks. sagemind it doesn't matter how wonderful your tweaks might be, the whole thing is too complicated. None of the features we have added here have really improved the situation. Comment voting didn't improve the comments here, for example.

jonny on the other hand proposed sweeping away some of the crap here, not tweaking the crap. we can all sit here and debate various tweaks forever, and it will be useless. What we need is to simplify. an automatic system that gives all videos an "airing" of equal exposure, regardless of timezones, and which does away with all these queues, publish dates, republish dates and invocations is a GOOD idea. Simplicity is beauty and efficiency.

to get rid of some of these clunky features and replace them with a simpler system is a good idea. to "improve" the clunky features is impossible. it was a mistake to build them in the first place. i mean, i don't even KNOW all the rules and invocations in this place any more, i got bored trying to keep track of it.

And time zone bias really really sucks.

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Radical Proposal for the Queue, PQueues, and Beggar's Canyon (Sift Talk Post)

MINK says...

if it is simpler, i like it. i think it's simpler. so i like it. it might even be close to the "dynamic queuing" thread i made years ago to try to solve the timezone problem.

at this point i don't believe there is a way of getting only "good" videos to escape the queue, so the queue should just do what it is good at, i.e. filtering out the utter crap and giving us a chance to eliminate selflinkers and snuff etc.

everything else that gets through is "not total crap" and potentially somebody's new favourite clip.

the queue is for filtering out shit, not for finding gold.



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