>> ^MaxWilder:
if that were a guy being used as a table, nobody would have a problem with it. At that point I stop caring. No special treatment, that's equality.


>> ^mram:
If women truly want equality, then stop getting preferential treatment. Men can be objects and noone cares, but when it's a woman it's suddenly bad? Hypocrisy.

You both are missing the point. The issue isn’t sexual deviance -- and it’s more than objectification. It’s complete degradation.

You’re arguing “it doesn’t matter if women abuse men, so why should this matter?” but that’s arguing equal opportunity abuse. That’s not okay. Degradation is not okay.

If the “table” were MALE, it’s not that “nobody would have a problem”: it’s just that the ad would make fun of misogyny. It would involve retaliation.

You argue that “stop trying to empathize with the woman in the video since you have no way to know what she's thinking” -- and it’s true. She could be having a great time. But the ad deliberately DOESN’T show an ecstatic, liberated woman who loves being fucked in every hole. What you see is three hands taking satisfying swigs. Three hands sharing the beer. That’s what we end with: “Share One with a Friend. Or two.”

The message isn’t “beer is great while having a foursome!” The message is that the woman isn’t just the table: she’s the beer you pass around.

And that’s the message I have a problem with.

>> ^jonny:
Exactly what was it that made you assume the person "in the middle" was female? [...] What you see is a product of what you believe.


Really? The ad, regardless of its "authenticity," uses common stereotypes to portray very simple ideas. Most viewers will see the video as it was intended: one woman, three men. This ad is the product of what they want you to believe. And if you didn't see it, then I guess it's unsuccessful, or that "defining characteristics" means something different to you.

So if I drink Guinness, not only do I get a sperm receptacle, I get to circle jerk? Awesome!