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What report and all of you neglected to notice is that he was wearing a T-shirt with the words "Sikhs in the City" emblazoned across the front.

I often scoff at those statistics. There is no way they can posibly know those numbers.

We just sent in our Canadian census.
My wife believes in god and she put Christian for every one in our home because that's what she is.
She filled out the survey and sealed it before I ever got a chance to see it.

If I had filled it out, I'd have put something quite the opposite or maybe "Jedi". And I personally do not encourage religion on my kids. I tell them my beliefs and that I stand quite firm on them.
So my son would be 50/50 (he's too young to have a an opinion) and my daughter would side with me.

So, for the record that's 4 Christians.
In reality it's closer to 1/4 or even 3/8 of that.
And that, my friends, is how flawed those statistics are.

>> ^grinter:

There are about 7 billion people in the world. About 2 billion of them are Christians. The Christians had better learn to get along with the Muslims, Hindus, Buddhists, Sikhs, and Jews, because chances are that their neighbors won't look a thing like Ned Flanders.

There are about 7 billion people in the world. About 2 billion of them are Christians. The Christians had better learn to get along with the Muslims, Hindus, Buddhists, Sikhs, and Jews, because chances are that their neighbors won't look a thing like Ned Flanders.

>> ^shinyblurry:

Yes, Hitchens tried to cloak himself in the vast and endless void of unbelief, yet Lane quickly cornered him and he was forced to admit that he did not in fact believe God exists, which is the assertion of atheism>


Thats not what I saw, I saw Craig as a man who fundamentally misunderstands what atheism is, and who thinks, based on no evidence whatsoever, that unless Hitchens can come up with some really good arguments to show that "atheism is true"( a meaningless statement), God exists by default.

Hitchens, we have to remember, isnt the one making shit up, he isnt the one who, based on extremely poor arguments from biblical authority, believes that jesus bansished demons from humans into pigs. Nor is he the one that makes arguments from wishful thinking. ("If there is no god, there is no basis for objective morality, therefore I think there is a god")

What Hitchens constantly tries to point out, is that all the arguments put forwards for all known forms of theism,are bad. That there is no evidence for any of the theistic claims, and that therse absolutely no reason to think that the catholics, or the sikhs, or the shia muslims, or even your average deist, makes reasonable claims about the world that they can back up with evidence.

Hitchens isnt the one who believes unbelievable nonsense based on nothing. He simply dismisses those claims as unfounded.

From Wikipedia: Gatka (Punjabi: ਗਤਕਾ gatkā) is a weapon-based performance art created by the Sikhs of the Punjab during the British Empire...The Punjabi word gatka refers to the wooden stick used in sparring matches...Gatka can be practiced either as a sport or ritual. The modern sport originated in the later 19th century, out of sword practice in the British Indian Army during the 1880s. It is played by two opponents who spar with wooden staves intended to simulate swords. The sticks may be paired with a shield. The older techniques and various other weapons are taught in the ritual aspect of the art.

>> ^blankfist:
Sikhs wear turbans, not Muslims.




HI Wikipedia! Say, could you come over here for a minute?

The men of many Islamic cultures have worn or wear a headdress of some sort that may be considered a turban. Islam considers the turban as being a Sunnah Mu'akkadah (Confirmed Tradition) . Head wraps that men wear are called several names and worn in different ways dependent on region and culture.


I love Sikhs. Sikhs do not consider non-Sikhs a threat, nor try to kill or convert them, unlike you-know-Alahu.

You all know who we REALLY need to profile: primarily swarthy Middle Eastern men ages 18 - 40 and behind them Middle Eastern women wearing any kind of "cloak". Unfortunately, the acolytes of political correctness don't give a sh!t if their cowardice is lethal. For that reason, any self-righteous goofii who feel bad for The Profiled may join them in the separate line.

@quantumushroom, Sikhs wear turbans, not Muslims.

I think going to church should be more exciting. I attended a memorial mass yesterday for a friend who died last year. I may be an atheist but they really have to jazz things up.

I was sat next to a Sikh who found the whole thing puzzling but as a former Roman Catholic I knew the drill. Next time I'm going to count the number of times one has to stand up and sit down or play some other mind game to keep awake.

I couldnt tell man, is that on me or the guy who finds the internet to personal ?

I said business attire,school uniforms, anywhere its mandated the basics of what must be worn, it creates a different environment to all be dressed the same, in the sense of business, everyone wear suits and such to be "professional" I dont see how other guy didnt get that parallelism it all has to do with being told what to wear... hahahha I never ever thought that thread would get so much response, I laugh when I see that.

In reply to this comment by Matthu:
It's not business attire either, hypocrite.
>> ^burdturgler:
>> ^BoneRemake:
So I was thinking, I don't see why this would go to a provincial level. Institute a basic dress policy as they have in business or in private even public schools. It is well within the schools/institutions right to have one. No I don't hate Muslims but I do religions; I 100 percent agree with the ideal that you accustom YOURSELF to the countries customs not the other way around.
burdturgler, you where a douche for pouncing on dudes g/f, she was referring what I said about Sikh knife, and it has everything to do with this story because it involves individual religious beliefs, if you are not up to speed on that story from a couple years back I can inform you of it.

This concept "that you accustom YOURSELF to the countries customs not the other way around" ... Does said country not include rights to religious freedom and the ability to worship and peacefully express those beliefs? Yes? It's sickening reading some of these posts. Is there some government mandate that says what business attire someone should wear? No. You 'hate religions', so you're a bigot and have no respect for other peoples rights. I'm a douche for "pouncing" on the knife thing? You're a douche for making it a part of this conversation. This video has nothing to do with that. A scarf is not a knife.

It's not business attire either, hypocrite.
>> ^burdturgler:
>> ^BoneRemake:
So I was thinking, I don't see why this would go to a provincial level. Institute a basic dress policy as they have in business or in private even public schools. It is well within the schools/institutions right to have one. No I don't hate Muslims but I do religions; I 100 percent agree with the ideal that you accustom YOURSELF to the countries customs not the other way around.
burdturgler, you where a douche for pouncing on dudes g/f, she was referring what I said about Sikh knife, and it has everything to do with this story because it involves individual religious beliefs, if you are not up to speed on that story from a couple years back I can inform you of it.

This concept "that you accustom YOURSELF to the countries customs not the other way around" ... Does said country not include rights to religious freedom and the ability to worship and peacefully express those beliefs? Yes? It's sickening reading some of these posts. Is there some government mandate that says what business attire someone should wear? No. You 'hate religions', so you're a bigot and have no respect for other peoples rights. I'm a douche for "pouncing" on the knife thing? You're a douche for making it a part of this conversation. This video has nothing to do with that. A scarf is not a knife.

>> ^BoneRemake:
So I was thinking, I don't see why this would go to a provincial level. Institute a basic dress policy as they have in business or in private even public schools. It is well within the schools/institutions right to have one. No I don't hate Muslims but I do religions; I 100 percent agree with the ideal that you accustom YOURSELF to the countries customs not the other way around.
burdturgler, you where a douche for pouncing on dudes g/f, she was referring what I said about Sikh knife, and it has everything to do with this story because it involves individual religious beliefs, if you are not up to speed on that story from a couple years back I can inform you of it.


This concept "that you accustom YOURSELF to the countries customs not the other way around" ... Does said country not include rights to religious freedom and the ability to worship and peacefully express those beliefs? Yes? It's sickening reading some of these posts. Is there some government mandate that says what business attire someone should wear? No. You 'hate religions', so you're a bigot and have no respect for other peoples rights. I'm a douche for "pouncing" on the knife thing? You're a douche for making it a part of this conversation. This video has nothing to do with that. A scarf is not a knife.

So I was thinking, I don't see why this would go to a provincial level. Institute a basic dress policy as they have in business or in private even public schools. It is well within the schools/institutions right to have one. No I don't hate Muslims but I do religions; I 100 percent agree with the ideal that you accustom YOURSELF to the countries customs not the other way around.

burdturgler, you where a douche for pouncing on dudes g/f, she was referring what I said about Sikh knife, and it has everything to do with this story because it involves individual religious beliefs, if you are not up to speed on that story from a couple years back I can inform you of it.

Note that this debate circle mostly around rights in the public services.

Some events that been push through this debate's strainer since some years now, to name a few:
A young Sikh men brought is Kirpan(tradional knife) to the elementary school. Should he be allowed to do so ?
In name of religion, a Muslim man refused to pass his driver's license test with a woman instructor.
Orthodox Jews required that windows giving view to women exercising be shaded in a community gym
Some muslims community are asking to be legally freed from work or study for the Friday noon prayer and be accommodate to do so.
In Ontario some people are legaly charge upon the Charia, should the Quebec allow such thing

Actual "Liberal" government (traditionally on the right) (generally get the early generation immigrant electorate) push the so called "reasonable accommodation" policy in public services kind of by opposition to the France "secular" policy in the public services. Reasonable accomodation advocate the right of expression in public services of religious symbol for main religion. The nationalist party (traditionally on the left)is pandering to the right wing of its party (the openly progressive and pro-union wing have been expelled from the party last week) and it's feeding what i'd called a negative nationalism which go along intolerance and racism on this issue.

This debate is now raging for more than a year here, although I didn't get into it, for the terms of the debate are completely distorted by partisan politics, and intermingled with emotional response arising from the erosion, or the fear of it, of "traditional culture". Consequences of a geopolitical-cultural encirclement and the ever-growing cultural and economic globalization.

So I didn't thought thoroughly about it. As for now, the questions i'm asking myself, is to where you draw the line ? What if my belief says that I should go naked to school ? Which beliefs will have rights and which won't ?

Hope that your distance will enable my fellow sifters to see clearer in this debate and help me by ricochet.

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