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And practice cannot be compared to this.

I opted back in and did a "standard sift watching session" for me of a few videos.

This time I forced myself to actually look for things that I noticed weren't in the places that I was expecting.

Some more thoughts:

I tried to figure out where to see "who voted for this video", currently under the comment entry box. I can't find that information in beta UI. I must admit that the current location isn't particularly logical, but I know to look for it there and I can't find it at all in the beta.


The "sidebar" content changed from Sift of the Week / Comment of the Moment / Leaderboard List (of whatever section you are currently in; Top New Videos, Top Videos Expiring Soon, etc.) to Suggested Videos and Related Videos. I think the old sidebar content was more likely to be relevant to what I want.

I get that that stuff has been moved into the header menus, but in my opinion it is harder to access there:
For beta - mouse to Watch button/menu, hover, mouse to relevant section like Top New Videos, mouse to which one I want
Old - mouse to what I want in the sidebar, which is probably already visible but not taking up TOO much screen real estate, and if it isn't visible it is a quick mousewheel jump away

In the meantime, the new sidebar makes stuff that I personally don't care about at all BIGGER. I don't understand what/who suggests the "Suggested Videos" and by what criteria they are deemed to be of interest to me, and "Relevant Videos" are mostly relevant in a long-timescale sense (ie., stuff from a single video series, containing same/similar tags, etc.) where on the sift a big part of the appeal is to vote on what is hot NOW. But those two things take up more space than the old sidebar that was filled with stuff that I *did* care about; they are now big thumbnails with a title underneath plus lots of spacing between list items compared to small thumbnail with title *beside* and very minimal extra padding/spacing between list items. So, the new sidebar has stuff I don't want to see, and spaces it out so that I have to scroll the mousewheel a lot more to get through it (even though it has fewer total list items than before!).


A big part of my personal enjoyment and engagement with the sift is video comments. I'm not a big fan of the beta font for comments, but I think I could potentially get used to it. But more important than the font is that it seems like each comment gets less total screen real estate, and there is more padding/space between each comment AND the sidebar.

I'd like to see that spacing/pad cut down to more like the old style. Beyond that, I figure it is safe to assume that you're not interested in bringing the old sidebar content back (Sift of the Week / Comment of the Moment / Top X Videos) from its beta location in the menubar. Assuming that that will stay there, I'd *much* rather see comment boxes that take up the majority of the page width with NO sidebar. Old sidebar and old style comments would be my personal choice, but assuming that isn't going to happen, I just feel like the beta sidebar is unnecessary and massively oversized / overspaced.


So, I gave it another shot ... back to opting out for me for now.

For me I don't even see comments any more when using Chrome. They appear on Firefox though.

Unintentional comment quoting is fixed.

The user listings in the Talk sidebar are fixed.

@doogle - You can see comments in video listings by clicking the little icon under the video. You can "minimize" the video by clicking "minimize" once it's expanded in a listing. You can expand video descriptions inline on video listing pages without loading the video page.

@dotdude - Lounge is under the Sift Talk tab now. Existing charters need do nothing.


This is all from @lucky760 on the bug thead. Not sure how to take a quote from there and put it here now.

Unintentional comment quoting is fixed.

The user listings in the Talk sidebar are fixed.

@doogle - You can see comments in video listings by clicking the little icon under the video. You can "minimize" the video by clicking "minimize" once it's expanded in a listing. You can expand video descriptions inline on video listing pages without loading the video page.

@dotdude - Lounge is under the Sift Talk tab now. Existing charters need do nothing.

a few things initially:
1) I can't see comments unless I click on the video's page. I really liked seeing comments inset on the sift scroll.
2) I can't "minimize" the video. This is necessary, as some videos load, and I queue them on the page, some take longer or I don't want them to load while others are loading, or I don't want them to load anymore after determining I don't want them to load as I load others.
3) Please tell me I can see longer descriptions ajax-style without needing to see the video's dedicated VideoSift page.

All in all, I love the style of Videosift v5. Any snapshots out there of what V1 and v2 looked like? I'm nostalgic.

>> ^NicoleBee:

I loved wwz in the books. I know this isn't going to be the book, but that's 0k!
We'll see how it stands on its own.


It's rare to hear/see comments like this regarding books to movies, good attitude!

>> ^lucky760:

I'm not sure I understand. Doesn't that just mean the page reloaded with videos that bubbled up to the front page in the few hours you weren't looking?


Yes. I am also noticing some disappear that I saw earlier too.

>> ^dag:

No changes that I'm aware of.>> ^ant:
>> ^dag:
Operator! I need an exit! Let us know if it continues to be an issue - otherwise a glitch.

OK. I think it happened about a couple hours ago unless you fixed the problem after it.



Hmm. Before that I was on VS before 8:30 AM PDT.

Comment hidden because you are ignoring dag. (show it anyway)

No changes that I'm aware of.>> ^ant:

>> ^dag:
Operator! I need an exit! Let us know if it continues to be an issue - otherwise a glitch.

OK. I think it happened about a couple hours ago unless you fixed the problem after it.

>> ^dag:

Operator! I need an exit! Let us know if it continues to be an issue - otherwise a glitch.


OK. I think it happened about a couple hours ago unless you fixed the problem after it.

>> ^radx:

It's almost as good as one of Beckham's or Juninho's free kicks.


Yeah ok...but Beckham and Juninho can't play anywhere near Messi's level.