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Racist Ron Paul (Politics Talk Post)

dystopianfuturetoday says...

Obviously he didn't hide it well enough, or we wouldn't be having this conversation.

I offer you a test of your own objectivity. Here are some quotes significantly worse than 'a few scattered words like "Jew" and "Sodomy". Will your mind change based on new evidence or will you make more excuses?

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"Blast ‘Em?
(From the Ron Paul Political Report October 1992 newsletter. [source])

If you live in a major city, you’ve probably already heard about the newest threat to your life and limb, and your family: carjacking.

It is the hip-hop thing to do among the urban youth who play unsuspecting whites like pianos. The youth simply walk up to a car they like, pull a gun, tell their family to get out, steal their jewelry and wallets, and take the car to wreck. Such actions have ballooned in the recent months.

In the old days, average people could avoid such youth by staying out of bad neighborhoods. Empowered by the media, police, and political complicity, however, the youth now roam everywhere looking for cars to steal and people to rob.

What can you do? More and more Americans are carrying a gun in the car. An ex-cop I know advises that if you have to use a gun on a youth, you should leave the scene immediately, disposing of the wiped off gun as soon as possible. Such a gun cannot, of course, be registered to you, but one bought privately (through the classifieds, for example).

I frankly don’t know what to make of such advice, but even in my little town of Lake Jackson, Texas, I’ve urged everyone in my family to know how to use a gun in self defense. For the animals are coming."
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"If you have ever been robbed by a black teen-aged male, you know how unbelievably fleet-footed they can be." - Ron Paul, 1992

"Given the inefficiencies of what D.C. laughingly calls the `criminal justice system,' I think we can safely assume that 95 percent of the black males in that city are semi-criminal or entirely criminal." - Ron Paul, 1992

"We don't think a child of 13 should be held responsible as a man of 23. That's true for most people, but black males age 13 who have been raised on the streets and who have joined criminal gangs are as big, strong, tough, scary and culpable as any adult and should be treated as such." - Ron Paul, 1992

"What else do we need to know about the political establishment than that it refuses to discuss the crimes that terrify Americans on grounds that doing so is racist? Why isn't that true of complex embezzling, which is 100 percent white and Asian?" - Ron Paul, 1992

Occupy Together (Worldaffairs Talk Post)

rottenseed says...

Concise point. Now you'd have to agree that all of those protests and movements that got us somewhere had a precise focus that everybody could agree upon. They were marching, picketing, and protesting one specific cause, not a vague "boogie-man". I fail to see that aim within this "movement". In fact, I think the vagueness of it is why there are such numbers. I think if there were a specific aim, that some people might not agree with, they'd lose some strength in numbers. It's easy to just yell and shout that you're being fucked, but it's another thing to march organized towards one goal. That's all I'm saying, no focus, no work will get done.>> ^NetRunner:

@rottenseed and @Boise_Lib, I'm not arguing that boycotts never have an impact, but boycotts alone didn't end apartheid, and boycotts alone didn't desegregate the South. Boycotts didn't get us child labor laws, boycotts didn't get us the Civil Rights Act, and boycotts didn't get us the FDA.
Boycotts are no substitute for laws. You don't stop carjackers by boycotting car companies, or gunmakers. You stop them with law enforcement.

Occupy Together (Worldaffairs Talk Post)

NetRunner says...

@rottenseed and @Boise_Lib, I'm not arguing that boycotts never have an impact, but boycotts alone didn't end apartheid, and boycotts alone didn't desegregate the South. Boycotts didn't get us child labor laws, boycotts didn't get us the Civil Rights Act, and boycotts didn't get us the FDA.

Boycotts are no substitute for laws. You don't stop carjackers by boycotting car companies, or gunmakers. You stop them with law enforcement.

THE PARKED CAR - An Interactive Adventure!

THE PARKED CAR - An Interactive Adventure!

gwiz665 (Member Profile)

LarsaruS says...

The incindent you are thinking about was in Umeå in Sweden.
http://www.expressen.se/nyheter/1.2180448/stal-dator-men-lamnade-tillbaka-innehallet-pa-usb-minne

In reply to this comment by gwiz665:
I would think that many carjackers would do something similar - going from carthief to kidnapper or murderer is a big, big step. Thieves usually do it for easy money, extortion is hard money, murder is no money.

I read somewhere, where a university professor got his laptop stolen, the thief returned his files and data on a usb stick in the profs mailbox (but kept the laptop). Saved him a hell of a lot of work having to recreate it, and insurance pays for the laptop anyway, so that was a much smaller hassle. The point is criminals are still people, but usually desperate or weak-willed.

>> ^EMPIRE:

Couple of weeks ago, something similar happened here, except the robber had some sense of decency, and the mother was the idiot.
So this woman stops her car in front of the building she lives in, and leaves the car open, with the key in the ignition, and a 6 or 7 year old child and a toddler inside the car, to go up to the apartment and pick up some stuff.
Some guy comes along and steals the car, with both children still inside.
A few miles away, he stops in front of a pharmacy, and tells the older kid to take his sibling inside because their aunt is supposedly waiting for them inside.
The pharmacist obviously didn't knew who they were, so he took them to a police station.

Parents Stop Carjacking to Save Baby

rychan says...

As a parent of a child that age, I don't blame the parents in the least for this. They're trying to keep their baby comfortable and warm by having him in the car seat with the car's heater on. They didn't step more than 20 feet away from their car. You can't live your life paranoid that people are going to literally jump out of the shadows and steal your baby.

VideoSift, you are so bipolar. One minute you're saying it's ridiculous how over-protective society has become for children, and the next minute you're blaming the victims for a ridiculous carjacking.

Parents Stop Carjacking to Save Baby

Shepppard says...

>> ^Trancecoach:

Did they really leave the baby inside a running vehicle with the keys in the ignition?
White folks.

Also, did the YT write-up say that the carjacker is a woman, and still "at large." Dude, local police need to get on that.


Shall they wave their magic wands and conjure up evidence?

There's no face in the security camera, the parents don't look like they'd have gotten a good enough view of the suspect to describe them (The father was in the car with them upside-down for about 5 seconds before they took off)

So the only thing they -might- have is fingerprints, and even then, judging by the amount of visible exhaust coming out of the car, that was a cold night, they were probably wearing gloves.

I agree something should be done, but you cant expect something from nothing.

blankfist (Member Profile)

Parents Stop Carjacking to Save Baby

Sagemind says...

I know someone who left their kids in the car, ran in to get dry cleaning (2 minutes tops) and came out to find someone had hit their car with the kids inside - It turned out the kids were OK but in an absolute panic without the parent there. I just don't leave them in the car when I am not there. Perhaps my own rule, but still a good one!
>> ^ant:


Leaving kids in there seems OK for 30 seconds as long as it is not hot and stuff. Key is a nono for stealing.

Parents Stop Carjacking to Save Baby

ant says...

>> ^Sagemind:

Don't leave your kids in the car!
I remember when my kids were infants, I made sure I NEVER left them in the car alone even when it was inconvenient for me when it was a 30 second jump out and jump in. Things just happen when you are least expecting it!
Oh, and ya, never leave the keys in there either

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Leaving kids in there seems OK for 30 seconds as long as it is not hot and stuff. Key is a nono for stealing.

Parents Stop Carjacking to Save Baby

Sagemind says...

Don't leave your kids in the car!

I remember when my kids were infants, I made sure I NEVER left them in the car alone even when it was inconvenient for me when it was a 30 second jump out and jump in. Things just happen when you are least expecting it!

Oh, and ya, never leave the keys in there either

>> ^ant:

Don't leave the key in the ignition!

Parents Stop Carjacking to Save Baby

GenjiKilpatrick says...

Surveillance cameras are mainly for gathering evidence. They can act as a deterrent but only for law-fearing citizens.

"Safety" is more of an after thought or convenient side effect.

>> ^Crunchy:

I dislike surveillance cameras in general, they don't make me feel any safer just watched (surveilled) but they sure do give us some top-notch entertainment once in a while

Parents Stop Carjacking to Save Baby

gwiz665 says...

I would think that many carjackers would do something similar - going from carthief to kidnapper or murderer is a big, big step. Thieves usually do it for easy money, extortion is hard money, murder is no money.

I read somewhere, where a university professor got his laptop stolen, the thief returned his files and data on a usb stick in the profs mailbox (but kept the laptop). Saved him a hell of a lot of work having to recreate it, and insurance pays for the laptop anyway, so that was a much smaller hassle. The point is criminals are still people, but usually desperate or weak-willed.

>> ^EMPIRE:

Couple of weeks ago, something similar happened here, except the robber had some sense of decency, and the mother was the idiot.
So this woman stops her car in front of the building she lives in, and leaves the car open, with the key in the ignition, and a 6 or 7 year old child and a toddler inside the car, to go up to the apartment and pick up some stuff.
Some guy comes along and steals the car, with both children still inside.
A few miles away, he stops in front of a pharmacy, and tells the older kid to take his sibling inside because their aunt is supposedly waiting for them inside.
The pharmacist obviously didn't knew who they were, so he took them to a police station.

Parents Stop Carjacking to Save Baby

Trancecoach says...

Did they really leave the baby inside a running vehicle with the keys in the ignition?

White folks.


Also, did the YT write-up say that the carjacker is a woman, and still "at large." Dude, local police need to get on that.



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