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Tracey Spicer on society's expectations of women

gorillaman says...

You can sign me up @bareboards2. If there were some broad agreement on terminology I would switch to gender neutral language instantly. Fucking sick of it.

Coincidentally I was thinking about this just this afternoon, because luckily I have nothing better to do at work than stand around contemplating gender politics; pleased and proud as I am of genderqueer crusaders trying to wrestle pronouns into shape, I've been generally unwilling to join them. For fuck's sake, I spend enough time every day arguing about the excess syllable in the number sev, I can't afford to multiply that by every sentence with a person in it.

Singularising plural pronouns is offensive to me on a practical and aesthetic level, Spivak's no damn good, you've got your zes and your hirs and your hens, it's a pain in the ass but as soon as we get some consensus and momentum it's going to be cool.

Can't see that feminism really has anything to do with all this, well, I have trouble seeing that feminism has anything to do with anything. Not to go all Trancecoach here with male world problems but they're similarly told that to be professional they have to knot a piece of cloth around their neck for no reason or slice the hair off their face every day for no fucking reason. The situation is that we have a bullshit tribal culture with endless absurd customs and arbitrary rituals which is perpetuated by morons.

So we should always be rationalising - language, culture, behaviour, expectations.

Gender neutrality is obviously the way to go. If you get shoved in a box you don't become the champion of the box and work to make your box the best box it can be; you break out and start beating your captors over the head with box fragments.

I don't give a fuck about women's problems; I don't give a fuck about women, but I'm glad to consider anyone who stops wearing makeup a part of my team because I don't wear makeup for the same reason I don't shave my stupid face.

Anyway that was my choggie impression for the day. Too much caffeine, not enough sleep, not enough time spent bathing in the blood of my enemies.

Burned by McDonald's Hot Coffee

Burned by McDonald's Hot Coffee

Dr Apologizes for Being SO WRONG About Medical Marijuana

Procrastinatron says...

...Was that supposed to be poignant, or just an extremely obscure inside joke?

Anyway, this "debate" was a bit ridiculous. Howard Samuels was, as others have already pointed out, very clearly straw manning - at no point was it suggested that opposing party thought marijuana should be legalized for recreational use by big companies.

It should also be noted that while Samuels runs a rehab center and in fact has a personal history of fighting addiction, this also has a negative effect on his ability to form an opinion on this situation. For him, extreme vulnerability to addiction is the norm. He himself is probably very prone to addiction, and he exclusively works with other individuals who are also extremely prone to addiction. I would say that the only people for whom marijuana can be seen as a gateway drug is the sort of people for whom alchohol, caffeine, nicotine, adrenaline or really anything that could possibly be abused could be seen as a "gateway drug."

These are the sort of people who always go too far. They drink too much coffee, they take too many risks, they smoke too much and they are always that one guy who gets embarrassingly drunk at parties because he just doesn't know how to limit himself.

But these people shouldn't be seen as the norm because honestly, they simply aren't.

And because Samuels apparently does think that these people define the norm, his view cannot be seen as being comprehensive. He's only looking at the extreme ends of the spectrum, and even then, he's really only looking at the potential negative extremes, because that is where he used to be, and it's where the people he now tries to heal are stuck.

chingalera said:

Drug lords using the press (Bozo the Limey Clown) to orchestrate the next consolidation/acquisition...

Why Tea Is Better Than Coffee

Fletch says...

There's caffeine in tea as well, just not as much as coffee. If you drink higher volumes of tea than you normally do coffee, you can still eat babies.

zaust said:

I'd rather be an overcaffeinated baby eater than a hippy.

Why Tea Is Better Than Coffee

STORYBOARD: The Fine Art of Coffee Portraiture

STORYBOARD: The Fine Art of Coffee Portraiture

Brandt Brauer Frick - Bop

Brandt Brauer Frick - Bop

Caffeine!! - Bite Sci-zed

harlequinn says...

>> ^jimnms:

Caffeine is not a diuretic.

In the 10 studies reviewed, consumption of a caffeinated beverage resulted in 0 to 84 percent retention of the initial volume ingested, whereas consumption of water resulted in 0 to 81 percent retention.”
Another study, in the same journal in 2005, involved scientists following 59 active adults over 11 days while controlling their caffeine intake. They were given caffeine in capsule form on some days and on other days were given a placebo. Researchers found no significant differences in levels of excreted electrolytes or urine volume.
[source]



It is a diuretic if taken in sufficient quantities. This effect reduces over time.

http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1046/j.1365-277X.2003.00477.x/abstract;jsessionid=2824623CA52C59B7D9744420B015EA2D.d01t01

"The available literature suggests that acute ingestion of caffeine in large doses (at least 250–300 mg, equivalent to the amount found in 2–3 cups of coffee or 5–8 cups of tea) results in a short-term stimulation of urine output in individuals who have been deprived of caffeine for a period of days or weeks. A profound tolerance to the diuretic and other effects of caffeine develops, however, and the actions are much diminished in individuals who regularly consume tea or coffee. Doses of caffeine equivalent to the amount normally found in standard servings of tea, coffee and carbonated soft drinks appear to have no diuretic action."

Caffeine!! - Bite Sci-zed

ghark says...

>> ^jimnms:

Caffeine is not a diuretic.

In the 10 studies reviewed, consumption of a caffeinated beverage resulted in 0 to 84 percent retention of the initial volume ingested, whereas consumption of water resulted in 0 to 81 percent retention.”
Another study, in the same journal in 2005, involved scientists following 59 active adults over 11 days while controlling their caffeine intake. They were given caffeine in capsule form on some days and on other days were given a placebo. Researchers found no significant differences in levels of excreted electrolytes or urine volume.
[source]



very interesting, I wonder where that fallacy came from.

Caffeine!! - Bite Sci-zed

jimnms says...

Caffeine is not a diuretic.

In the 10 studies reviewed, consumption of a caffeinated beverage resulted in 0 to 84 percent retention of the initial volume ingested, whereas consumption of water resulted in 0 to 81 percent retention.”

Another study, in the same journal in 2005, involved scientists following 59 active adults over 11 days while controlling their caffeine intake. They were given caffeine in capsule form on some days and on other days were given a placebo. Researchers found no significant differences in levels of excreted electrolytes or urine volume.
[source]

Caffeine!! - Bite Sci-zed

chingalera says...

I know someones' got this girl beat and NO spoco, the fastest way according to anyone who ever had a colonic is to pump it up into yer ass-Fastest transfer of caffeine into the system anyhow...My friend did it with two quarts of Starbucks!

Another similar experiment involved wheat grass juice,an entire flat in one session. That one put her blood pressure to the test...

Caffeine!! - Bite Sci-zed

spoco2 says...

Gee, that would have to be about the least efficient way to get a lot of caffeine into you. A few shots of straight coffee would work wonders, or some of those caffeine pills, or... well, pretty much anything but huge fucking tubs of sugary, watery crap with some caffeine in them.

Um, and you so fucking WOULD be able to drink 48 cups of coffee if each of those were just a shot. Stop thinking about coffee as coffee + lots of other liquid and it becomes much easier to consume large quantities.

Some good information here, but also some narrow views on how people consume their coffee.

And yes, I LOVE me some coffee, although I only have 2 double shot coffees a day, I do love them... am in the process of repairing a $700 coffee machine (bought cheap as it wasn't working) just so I can make better coffee at home



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