"One thing is bad, so don't bother fixing the other?" What does that even mean. I was merely pointing out that one of Susan's go to boogeymen was a straw man instead. Glyphosate's bad rep is undeserved. I was pointing out relative toxicity, both caffeine and glyphosate are deadly in sufficient dosage but in any dosage that humans are normally exposed to they are harmless. Neither is bad and nothing needs to be fixed except the unscientific attitude of idiots.

As for your comment about "other consequences", you're right. Some herbicides may have other consequences than personal health or they may not. If you have something specific in mind spit it out, don't just make a vague comment and leave it at that.

Susan, you don't want glyphosate on your cerea? You do realize that caffeine is 30-40 times more toxic than glyphosate don't you.

People buying name brand over the counter medication opposed to the generic has always been a huge pet peeve of mine (especially pain relief meds). I always think they are either ignorant of the facts or just easily duped (suckers).

As an example all these 'Excedrins' have exact ingredients in the exact amounts (250mg acetaminophen 250mg aspirin 65mg caffeine) and same number of pills(200)
@Wallmart
Excedrin Extra Strength $23.95
Excedrin Migraine $15.54
Equate(generic excedrin) $4.00
http://www.walmart.com/search/?query=excedrin

Blows my mind people buy Excedrin or Advil or Tylenol,etc.. and not the generics. Stop being suckers.

end of pet peeve rant

I drank it a lot for about a year when I was 16-17 or so (not quite 20 years ago). Then my mom stopped buying it, and I had terrible withdrawal headaches for a couple months. ...That convinced me that maybe I should avoid caffeine, which I continue to do now.

Hard to cut out caffeine entirely, but keeping it as limited as possible (no sodas, no coffee, tea once in a while) has been a good change for me.

it is interesting. There is a (non caffeine) biological active substance in coffee which is rapidly absorbed by the stomach and in some individuals increases rectosigmoid motor activity... it seems that the effects is similar to that of 1000 kcalories worth of food. While most laxatives work on the gut surface - either osmotically drawing water into the colon or increasing secretion, a coffee derivative could finally yield dumb and dumber grade laxative!

Fortunately the rest of the world has more consistent guidelines. The EU for instance requires labelling for any food or drink with caffeine (except tea and coffee) - https://www.food.gov.uk/science/additives/energydrinks and down under there are limits on the maximum caffeine content of drinks - http://www.foodstandards.gov.au/consumer/generalissues/Pages/Caffeine.aspx (maximum is 320 mg per litre for energy drinks, which is why the local Jolt cola has less caffeine than the US version).

I drink coffee because I like the flavour, not because I need caffeine. So yeah, reasonably confident I'm doing it OK.

Is this seriously not a parody? Holy shit. @:48 "A group of anti-energy activists..." - really? Anti-energy? "I hate energy!" "Yeah, me too! "Fuck energy!"

Edit: Apparently the group that made this is run by / connected to one Rick Berman, who I'd not really known anything about previously. Found a post with some info on the guy, sounds like a winner: "a Washington lobbyist and arch-enemy of other lobbyists and do-gooders who would have government control—and even ban-a myriad of products they claim are killing us, products like caffeine, salt, fast food and the oil they fry it in. He's against Mothers Against Drunk Driving, animal rights activists, food watchdog groups and unions of every kind..."

I believe Vancouver BC was the first or second City where a Starbucks opened on a downtown intersection, diagonally across from a Starbucks.

Caffeine is a drug.

Almost everybody does some kind of drug. Sugar, caffeine, cannibus, nicotine, alcohol, "prescriptions." Decriminalize, take the crime and profit out of it, treat the sick. Stop wasting our blood and money on prohibition.

Don't forget if you're drinking it frequently every day, the effect of alertness is diminishing and while you may have caffeine in your body hanging around at bed time. The "alertness" effect shouldn't really be that strong.

I can drink a cup within 3hrs of sleep and be ok for bed, so for me, the drop off effect is pretty quick. Of course the effect for you may be quite extended

If you're having trouble sleeping, you should try "winding down" exercises to see if it's really coffee or if you just keep yourself over simulated. The basics of it is *zero* screens 45mins before bed, no phones, no tv, no tablets etc, throw in a slow breathing exercise (a good start is 6-7 breaths per minute, work your way down to 4-5) for 10-15minutes, nose only.

So caffeine still has an affect on your sleep way after you have put it into your system. Twelve hours later its still has a 25% presence/affect as it had when you drank it. So coffee in the morning can still make it potentially more difficult to sleep at night. I'd always heard it shouldn't affect your sleep if you had consumed it longer then six hours ago. So i guess the multiple cups before noon may potentially be part of my difficulty sleeping at night.

The more you know

*promote the caffeine addiction!

Took this from your fb. Thanks to you and to much caffeine im now all fired up.
http://videosift.com/video/Man-Escapes-5-Yr-Sentence-After-Dash-Cam-Footage-Clears-Him

-edit-
while im at it i though you might enjoy a good story about takin a shit.
http://videosift.com/video/Just-talkin-bout-shit-Joe-Rogan