100% Auto Tune. This upsets me....cause these two CAN ACTUALLY FUCKING SING!!!

>> ^vex:

>> ^TheSluiceGate:
OK, 2 things really suspicious about this video:
1) I'm pretty sure I can hear autotune artifacts (I work with audio / vocalists a lot) and a vocal that is consistently too in pitch.
2) Notice at 2:49 the microphone is absolutely miles from her mouth and the vocal is still entirely consistent, no evidence of a change in level or tone that you'd expect a microphone to display (re: proximity effect) - this hints to me at the vocal being pre-recorded. They also cut away at this point which makes me even more suspicious.
Also:
3) The US version of the same show, produced by the same production company, has admitted using autotune: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-11056050
This coming from a person who got goosebumps for the amazing TV debut performances of both Alexis Jordan and Bianca Ryan who were both imperfect, but utterly thrilling.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XcEo5H97CLM&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xno4Y7r8Ov8

1. I think you're hearing things. Specifically, some of her high to low runs and a couple rising melodies beginning with low notes at the bottom of her range are slightly off key. The way she leads into notes using the back of her throat creates a slight buzz that makes her voice sound autotuned.
2. The beginning of the word "butterflies" comes out at a lower volume as she brings the microphone to her face.


1) It's the texture of the audio of the vocal and not the pitching that leads me to believe it's auto tune. Autotuning has a sound, and it's not necessarily to do with the pitching of the note. A bit like how tape or MP3s of even a specific type of pre-amp has a specific sound carachteristic.

2) I think that any slight dip in volume is because it's a low note outside of her range, but my point was not to do with volume, but to do with proximity effect. With the exception of omni-directional microphones the frequency response of a microphone changes with distance from the source of the sound- simply put: the further the mic is away from the person's mouth the thinner and less bassy it becomes. Even a change in gain / volume will not mask this.

Shouldn't auto-tune be classified as a gravestone of music?

>> ^ulysses1904:

Yeah, I don't know why auto-tune would be included as if it was as important as the advent of cassettes and stereo. >> ^spoco2:
Interesting, but also seemed a little arbitrary in their choices of 'milestones'.



Auto-tune wasn't included, it was just given as an example of the most known of the "Milestone 8 Audio Manipulation Explosion" @4:30.

I think their choices of milestones were pretty accurate.

Yeah, I don't know why auto-tune would be included as if it was as important as the advent of cassettes and stereo. >> ^spoco2:

Interesting, but also seemed a little arbitrary in their choices of 'milestones'.

*beg

Got up this morning things weren't working right
I said I wanna make a change I said I wanna fight
Obama walked up and said yes we can
I said I wanna ride your nuts cause I think you're the man

Now I'm dick riding (Obama, Obama!) 4X

(auto-tuned)
Dick riding for tomorrow
Dick riding for today
Dick riding for the straights
'n Dick riding for the gays
Dick riding for America
Dick riding for Iraq
It's ok to ride that dick, just as long as it's Barack's

(Repeat chorus, fades)
And now were dick riding dick riding (Obama, Obama!)

First time I've ever enjoyed auto tune!

A good example of not needing auto-tune.

Artists (or should I say human products since they have no art to speak of) that use auto-tune suck.

Tellingly on the auto-tune front @TheSluiceGate, @LukinStone, I asked on the youtube video of this whether it was used, and they have moderation turned on... well, they haven't put up my question or an answer, yet have put up others that have come through since.

Also, there's a fan who set up a page at 'ragtube' (never heard of it before), which seems to have his old youtube channel description on it:

Mike's setup:

Martin DC-16RGTE Aura 6-string guitar, Guild F-512 12-string guitar, into Yamaha 01x into HP laptop (via firewire) running Cubase 3. Mike's vocal mic is a Neumann KMS105.

Jeff's setup:

Fender 5 string Jazz Bass (Mexico) into Universal Audio LA-610 Pre amp/compressor
Jeff's vocal mic is a Neumann KMS104.

The audio is recorded dry, then mixed in Cubase 6, using mostly UAD-2 plug-ins. No Auto-Tune is used (since people occasionally ask). The audio mix is then synced to the video in Sony Vegas. The video camera is a Canon Vixia HF100 (for the more recent HD videos)

The thing I do like about auto-tune is that it enables those that NEVER, atleast in front of the public, to sing. There is something primal and deeply connecting about music and song, it connects with us in ways we never get connected to, especially emotionally. It calms us, it brings a grand hush to those listening intently (and if there not listening intently, they are the idiots in the mosh pit) as though something profound may be learned at any moment.

For those that did bring so much to the world, like the Carl Sagan auto-tune, it had the same response... You shut-up, listened and believe it or not there was a profound message in that one AND there is one here, but on a much smaller scale. I'd love to see more of our most beloved humans and those of the humanities that have given us all so much get this treatment, but only if done with the same amount of respect as this one had and Carl Sagan had as well.

Music and song strangely seems to access a part of us that destroys the worst motivations in us, atleast for awhile--as long as you're listening (although if you're the one creating it, I'm not so sure; I think you must be a savant for that to happen). Next to our ability to reason and create, this is by far our next most powerful ability.

I hope to hear more. I hope they take their time.

>> ^Quboid:

>> ^ant:
pets toys!

This doesn't belong in the pets channel does it?


From YouTube's description: "My dog was biting on the toys shown in the video and by chance he ended up making a sound which sounded like the game of thrones music.That turned into this.. The audio ais indeed recorded on these very toys...from my phone and then auto-tuned to sound like the way it does.
Special thanks to my dog 'Simba' for allowing me to use his toys for this video..."

http://videosift.com/video/Carly-Rae-Jepsen-Call-Me-Maybe-Acoustic

Best version. Not everyone who's popular is auto-tuned.

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Are these the auto-tune the news guys? This was great. I love lakes too.

Where's auto-tune when it's truly needed? =oI

Never thought willie nelson would use auto-tune.....damn thats sad.