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Duckman33 says...

*whew!* You never know these days, thought that was out of character for you.

In reply to this comment by doogle:
>> ^Duckman33:

>> ^doogle:
Was the guy expecting to hear Mittens continue with: "Yeah, I'm against it, but don't you worry, punks like you can continue to get away with doping yourself while you leech off the system."

Are you fucking serious with this attitude? Punks like him leaching off the system? So you exoect him to go out and get a job then? Wow.


No, I'm not fucking serious. Take a breather, I had my Mittens hat on, wondering what he'd be saying. Keep up. And take note, I'm from CANADA. Medical MariJane is legal here, and we all have a system open to all, but no one's leeching. Grab your skis, come up and check it out. I hear you're in for a bumpy tide.

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Duckman33 says...

Fair enough.

In reply to this comment by jmzero:
Maybe it's more about what was allowed to happen, and less about who did what. Ever think of that?


Uhh.. yes, I have thought of that. And if the theory is that the US government could or should have done more before 9/11 or that they knew something or whatever... fine. Cool. I think you can believe that and not be crazy. US government incompetent? Check. US government failed to save some people (on purpose) to further some end? Sure, why not. Maybe they thought the towers wouldn't go down and it would be mostly just a symbolic thing? There's plenty of possible variations here that aren't nutbars. I'm sure there's a whole continuum of different types and kinds of information that the government acts on or doesn't act on for all sorts of reasons (often probably fairly shady ones).

To be clear, I don't think "the government" likely had terribly good, credible information coming into 9/11 - or to the extent they did I think they didn't use that information appropriately for reasons more like incompetence than planning. But, again, I don't think anyone would be crazy for not agreeing with me on that. As before, there's no good reason it couldn't be true. If people are demanding investigations into who knew what when and who didn't act on what then cool. Great. Do that.

However, the videos I've been commenting on have typically been of the "it was a controlled demolition planned by someone other than terrorists" variety. Those are very different theories than the ones we're talking about, and they are nutbars.

And here (in the comment you're commenting on) clearly, I was responding to a comment that wasn't "US government let it happen". He was deriding the claim "Best theory that Al Quada did 9/11". It was precisely about "who did what" not "what was allowed to happen". Even if that comment wasn't clear, which I think it is, for context you can read the 1000 other comments he's made here - clearly he isn't just saying "the government knew". And, if that was what he had been saying, I (and probably many of the others who make fun of him) would respond to him differently.

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Duckman33 says...

Maybe it's more about what was allowed to happen, and less about who did what. Ever think of that?

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scumbag academic: "Best theory that Al Quada did 9/11" (doesn't present a shred of evidence)


Meh - he clearly presented the strongest argument against the "conspiracy theory": that it doesn't make any sense. As he explains, it requires tremendous risk, is far from foolproof, requires magical execution, and there's much, much simpler ways to get to the same place. These are the same simple objections that should come up in anyone's mind when presented with this theory.

Why don't you tell us what you think happened and who did what? Don't be a coward and say "well, I don't know what happened, but I know what didn't because of these X things that I don't accept the explanation of". How about you just tell us what happened and why you think that it makes any sense whatsoever? Or, and this is a much bigger task, provide an explanation that makes more sense and fits better with evidence than the official explanation?

Chomsky would love to be able to get behind this kind of conspiracy (or even leave open the possibility) - heaven knows he loves the underdog, and obviously he had no love for Bush - but he's a rational, smart guy.

Now, if you were calling him a scumbag for defending some dictator in the 70s, then whatever - but calling him a scumbag because even he's not willing to get on this crazy bus? You don't know him, or you're nuts. When Chomsky won't even entertain an idea like this, it says something about the idea, not about Chomsky.

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Duckman33 says...

Thanks! Hehe. Me too. But it had to be done.

In reply to this comment by GeeSussFreeK:
Hahahah I can't believe that is the first occurrence in the thread, awesome!


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America, FUCK YEAH!
Coming again, to save the mother fucking day yeah,
America, FUCK YEAH!
Freedom is the only way yeah,
Terrorist your game is through cause now you have to answer too,
America, FUCK YEAH!
So lick my butt, and suck on my balls,
America, FUCK YEAH!
What you going to do when we come for you now,
it's the dream that we all share; it's the hope for tomorrow!

U-S-A! U-S-A! U-S-A! U-S-A!

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Duckman33 says...

Nice tits.

Honestly, I was curious as to why you would upvote it if you had issues with the content. Anyway, I apologize for the misunderstanding, I thought the statement was directed towards me. I retract my elitist reference comment!

In reply to this comment by Payback:
If you would note, I upvoted your video. I can downvote if I want, but I seldom do. I saw no reason to. I'm all for debate. I was attacking the outcry about the "censorship", not the poster. Try to not take it personally. If you posted a video about pedophiles, I wouldn't think you were one.

Also, there was nothing in my comment that attacked you personally, so as for the elitist characterization, "Fuck you very much."

As for the lyrics being offensive or not, Mark Twain was talking about a man everyone in that part of history felt no issue calling "Nigger Jim". Twain, like Knopfler, was just passing that along in HIS story as well. I'm against censorship, I'm also against sensationalizing minor things because they diminish the large ones.

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>> ^Payback:

Oh PULEEASE! It's deemed offense for PUBLIC AIRPLAY. No one is out confiscating fucking CDs. The use of the word IS pejorative, by the way. He's using it as a demeaning term.
This makes me howl. Down in the States, the clean versions used for YEARS. You want to know what I think is ridiculous censorship? Getting rid of "Nigger Jim" out of Huckleberry Finn. Discuss THAT, not this non-issue.


Yes, well when you can tell me how to fit all that into the title I'll change it.

As far as the use of the word in the song being demeaning in this context, I'm sorry but your 100% WRONG! He's quoting something he overheard two appliance delivery men said about musicians. NOT directing the statements to anyone in particular. Wow you're just as quick to judge as they are. I bet you didn't even listen to the song or read the lyrics to see exactly in which context the word was used before passing judgment either. Jewel's "Pieces of Me" uses the term faggot as well. I suppose they'll have to ban that song too huh? The one thing you are right about is it is a non-issue, hence why I posted it.

Here's a few more they missed. http://blogs.westword.com/backbeat/2011/01/canada_bans_money_for_nothing_but_still_missed_a_few_offensive_songs.php

[Edit] The title is fixed your highness.

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