Your absolutely right that characterising an entire generation as the 'same' is flawed.

However, I also believe there is more to the whole 'entitled millenials' view than just the bias of 'those darned kids again'.

I think the lumping of generational groups is just a miswording and but reading of the problems facing society at different times. Baby-Boomers as a generation were just people, same as millenials, same as anyone else. The thing is, kids born between 1910 and 1930 grew up in a world at war. Baby boomers grew up in a post world war/cold war era. The societal problems that shaped those times and people still existed, so dismissing the problems as just perception or bias isn't necessarily a good idea.

I've been out of high school 20+ years, and the notion of participation ribbons for everyone was already starting then. The notion that losing or winning isn't important, even if you lost because you were lazy, or won because of years of hard work was already starting. The problem of basically denying hard parts of the real world has been building for 20 years, and the current generation has been buried even deeper in it.

For anyone born in Canada or the USA to cry that no amount of hard work, talent or anything else can help them get ahead and that the system must be changed to help them is insidious. When 80-90% of everyone born in Canada or the USA will never know real hunger, never face homelessness, never have a warlord burn and destroy everything they own, complaining about the inherent injustice of being born where you were as a Canadian or American is just wrong.

The ideology that has grown up in the western world over the last 20+ years has the stink of the rich, entitled world we've enjoyed here. We have a society so removed from hardship, that hardship is working 10 hours a day, 5 days a week to lead a life more comfortable than 90% of the world.

It's not millenials, it is however the society that millenials are growing up in(so all of us).

Hmm.

Europa Universalis II
Medieval: Total War
MOO2
Steel Panthers: World at War
Battle for Wesnoth

There's five to get us started.

I want someone to create Grand Theft Auto: Zombie Apocalypse.

I would TOTALLY buy that. A true mission-based, open-world, zombie war.

Dead Island was more like zig-zag across the level, switch-hunting.

A great list by yahtzee... Granted the last is easily agreed on...

MW3 is basically Call of Duty: Black Ops (2010)
which is basically Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 (2009)
which is basically Call of Duty: World at War (2008)
which is basically Call of Duty: Modern Warefare (2007)
which is basically Call of Duty 3 (2006)
which is basically Call of Duty 2 (2005)

Final Fantasy better watch out! come another seven years (if they don't make any more FFs) you are going to get lapped in the number of sequels!

Note: Madden doesn't count...

>> ^budzos:

I guess we'll have to agree to disagree. Maybe some day you'll become enlightened enough to realize that the conscious choice to end a human life is ALWAYS wrong. It doesn't achieve anything but the psychic/spiritual degradation of us all.
I have to take offense at the stupid canard/strawman in your second paragraph. In an ideal world, it would be impossible for governments to declare war (AKA ordering mass murder). But it's not an ideal world yet, so war is going to be around for a while longer. However, elimination of the death penalty does not require an ideal world at all. It simply requires a sane, humane, empathetic approach to the issue (see the dozens of countries around the world with no death penalty as an example).


Always wrong though? Like if someone is trying to kill my daughter and I kill him in the struggle? I don't really have absolute moral authority to dictate right and wrong for you, but for myself, yes, death is something to be avoided whenever and wherever you can. Animal carnage, I despise. However, I do consider using death as a form of justice; a form of rational punishment. For instance, if I caused 400 damage to your property, I consider it a rational course of justice that 400 dollars of fine/reciprocity be extracted from the offender, and perhaps a little extra to discourage the activity. Likewise, it seems rational to expect that someone who takes a life, should in turn, have his life taken, it is a consistent course of reason. The one flaw being that, even after his life is taken, the life of the original party is not restored. That isn't our fault, though, just our inability as humans to ever achieve perfect justice. Like those in Enron, they stole far more then they could ever repay...no perfect justice could ever be done.

So I agree, animal barbarism as a justification for murder is pretty much always bad, or wrong as one might say morally. But I think you can support completely rational grounds for ending a life. Hell, I have considered suicide many times, which one can say is a form of self murder. That is where I find the argument for "ending a human life is always bad" breaks down. Likewise, my grandmother recently passed from emphysema. It was dreadfully painful watching her die. And in that, if she asked someone to help her die, I could not say it evil...the pain was so great. I am no utilitarian, but I don't think that dying is so bad or living so good. Living a life in prison being butt raped doesn't sound much better than just dying, I would rather die. To each his own, it sounds like you have stuff to live for and junk, so I can understand your zeal against death. I don't find humans entitled to anything, like life, I only value our rational agreements between each other. And those who choose not to play by the rule of rational existence, well, then they are playing by the rules of the jungle; and the jungle is a harsh mistress.

Beyond all that though, the practical notion that we are murdering innocent people is enough, to me, to call the whole ordeal off. I thank you for your response, and I didn't mean to offend with the war comparison. I was making the comparison that we do, indeed, live in an imperfect world where wars happen, so governments have the ability to counter act that. I thought that laterally compared to murder. though. Murder is in essence war against that person. A person at war with the state, in an imperfect world, can rationally be "terminated" by the war example. I don't mean to offend, and I am usually horrible in arguing such things in text, I should refrain from doing so ever again.

edited (like always, I am so bad at writing )

That's strange. Both embeds work for me. Are they region blocked?>> ^eric3579:

Cant seem to get it to work @geo321

I remember my mother told me this once. Some people just need to pray and to believe in something. The whole "easing of the mind" diatribe because they feel powerless and need to feel in control by letting some outward being comfort them. But, it's in my opinion that these people just haven't accepted reality - of what consciousness is, who they are, the modern world, government, war, space, science. If they could just accept reality for what it really is then maybe they wouldn't need a God, christ or religion. They'd have to find beauty in the chaos and accept it or at least ponder it.

I feel like these types are the ones most afraid of psychedelics. Like they think they will see demons and become possessed - they believe in this shit; and maybe they will because of the amount of guilt their religions place upon them or maybe as a strange self-fulfilling prophecy.

I pray maybe twice a year - and it's called either mushrooms or LSD and though those experiences aren't always about feeling "easiness" they do help me accept reality for what it is. And it's always mostly an amazing time ; at least only the good times stick with me. I think American culture needs to embrace moderate use of psychedelics - it'd probably help out the fucked up ways people think in this country.

>> ^burdturgler:

No, but I have some other random shit to bitch about:
You know what sucks? YouTube won't let you create embeddable playlists with more than 50 parts anymore.
And they don't tell you about it until after you have spent an hour creating a 137 part playlist!
RAGE!!


TYVM Burdturgular!

No, but I have some other random shit to bitch about:
You know what sucks? YouTube won't let you create embeddable playlists with more than 50 parts anymore.
And they don't tell you about it until after you have spent an hour creating a 137 part playlist!
*RAGE!!

i want nerd guerilla warfare on EVERYTHING.
anonymous as a social justice movement would be ingenious and fucking powerful.
i want them to clog the fax lines of financial institutions with pictures of dollar bills and poverty.
i want the IMF inundated with fax pictures of mohangany trees, and bananas, and third world civil wars.
go go go go go go go go go

and anti gay marriage politicians to get faxed gay porn.

Originality Fail...
http://www.videosift.com/video/Arrogant-Humiliating-CoD5-World-at-War-Kill

Tags for this video have been changed from 'japanese, banzai, yata, world at war' to 'japanese, banzai, yata, world at war, yayyy, wtf' - edited by calvados

"World at War", great series indeed!

This is a genuine, and for the most part, serious and excellent documentary on WW2, called "World at War" from 1974. This is Episode 6 - Banzai (Japan 1931-1942). I guess the creators got to a point where they ran out of ideas and just decided to take the chill pill and freestyle

I love Infinity Ward. I can't believe millions of gamers bought into the cheap knock-off crap that was Treyarch's World at War because of how great IW's 4th iteration of the franchise was.