vulture + trible = ???

what makes a great poet?
insanity? like emily dickenson?
or technical brilliance? like shakespeare?
or is it something less quantifiable?
like courage..
and honesty..
the ability to lay open your wounds and lay naked and raw.
while vultures of pretension nibble on the gristle of your endeavors.
or is a great poet something that is spoon fed to you by your english lit teacher?
and if that is the case you need to sit down,shut up and realize you dont understand poetry.
you may understand the historical relevance of whitman all the way to keats but you dont understand poetry.
you may be able to write a perfect sonnet.
rhyme amd meter..cadence..flawless..
and you still wont understand poetry.

bukowski reacted how any one of us would after being told our future partner is going to FUCK anybody she/he wishes to.
we would most likely have restrained from violence,especially being on TV.
he only did what we would have WANTED to do.
and yet you sit there and judge him for his lack of restraint.
so...
he is the dick for acting and you are not for only WANTING.
i say we are all dicks.
at least bukowski had the balls to show his rage and hurt.
we would remain quiet like little pussies,hiding behind the facade of civility.
so really...who is the dick?

"knowledge without mileage=BULLSHIT"-henry rollins

>> ^GenjiKilpatrick:
>> ^rosekat:
SO true. The double standard some vegetarians present is ridiculous. Also, veggies who wear leather are quite intriguing ethical conundrums, aren't they? This is one of my favourite of theirs.

Psh, like we all wear Cat sweaters and rock Peta bumper stickers.
I personally avoid dead animal flesh because i'm not a lion or vulture.
Don't you think it's strange we're the only animals that have to cook other animals before we eat them. (Or risk food poisoning, worms, death)
Also, I don't think the criticism is quite justified.
Vegetarians only eat plants. So why would one go purchase or have meat lying around just in case?
You guys are probably omnivorous. So you'd expect an omnivore to have a few vegatarian options about.
Likewise, if at a "Carnitarian's" house, is it appropriate to give them guff about not having any vegetables in the crisper drawer? And question why they have house plants?
I understand the joke, but if you put thought into it.. it doesn't quite make sense.

Relax, it's a great piece of script that handles a common social conflict with a bit of depth and real humour (and makes perfect effing sense). It's not a personal attack on you! I'm sure you're wonderful

We don't have to cook our food. I love sushi. We're perfectly capable of eating any meat raw. There is a tiny risk of food borne illness, though. That's not unique to humans -- our vet didn't want us feeding our dog raw chicken.

Humans and animals both get more calories from cooked meat (or almost any food). Humans are just the only creatures smart enough to use the tool.

>> ^GenjiKilpatrick:
>> ^rosekat:
SO true. The double standard some vegetarians present is ridiculous. Also, veggies who wear leather are quite intriguing ethical conundrums, aren't they? This is one of my favourite of theirs.

Psh, like we all wear Cat sweaters and rock Peta bumper stickers.
I personally avoid dead animal flesh because i'm not a lion or vulture.
Don't you think it's strange we're the only animals that have to cook other animals before we eat them. (Or risk food poisoning, worms, death)
Also, I don't think the criticism is quite justified.
Vegetarians only eat plants. So why would one go purchase or have meat lying around just in case?
You guys are probably omnivorous. So you'd expect an omnivore to have a few vegatarian options about.
Likewise, if at a "Carnitarian's" house, is it appropriate to give them guff about not having any vegetables in the crisper drawer? And question why they have house plants?
I understand the joke, but if you put thought into it.. it doesn't quite make sense.

>> ^GenjiKilpatrick:
>> ^rosekat:
SO true. The double standard some vegetarians present is ridiculous. Also, veggies who wear leather are quite intriguing ethical conundrums, aren't they? This is one of my favourite of theirs.

Psh, like we all wear Cat sweaters and rock Peta bumper stickers.
I personally avoid dead animal flesh because i'm not a lion or vulture.
Don't you think it's strange we're the only animals that have to cook other animals before we eat them. (Or risk food poisoning, worms, death)
Also, I don't think the criticism is quite justified.
Vegetarians only eat plants. So why would one go purchase or have meat lying around just in case?
You guys are probably omnivorous. So you'd expect an omnivore to have a few vegatarian options about.
Likewise, if at a "Carnitarian's" house, is it appropriate to give them guff about not having any vegetables in the crisper drawer? And question why they have house plants?
I understand the joke, but if you put thought into it.. it doesn't quite make sense.




most omnivorous and meet eaters are susceptible to the same worms and problems with meat . but if u kill something fresh its normally fine , you don't actual have to cook Manny meats , Fish, Beef,Dear,Lamb,spring buck, maggots , lavee , so long as you get it fresh.

due to the way we kill animals and store them and genraly dont eat fresh fresh it dose make it safer to cook alot of meets but this also applies to vegetables and other non meet produce. I think Rice is actually one of the more common ways for people to get serous food poisoning Evan over meat.

I think in the case of most meats the more you cook it the more you actually lose from the meat where as with most vegetables light cooking increases there nutritional value as what is lost is replaced by the ablity for the stumach to better digest more of it.


Im just looking forward to the time we can grow meats so that we don't have to deprive creatures of life in order to eat something tasty and different from vegetables. Its also a shame that in most western cultures its frowned apon to eat larvii and bugs, when they make an excellent food source and also consume waste , would make far more sence than killing large wasteful and relitavly intelligent creatures like cows.

>> ^rosekat:
SO true. The double standard some vegetarians present is ridiculous. Also, veggies who wear leather are quite intriguing ethical conundrums, aren't they? This is one of my favourite of theirs.


Psh, like we all wear Cat sweaters and rock Peta bumper stickers.

I personally avoid dead animal flesh because i'm not a lion or vulture.

Don't you think it's strange we're the only animals that have to cook other animals before we eat them. (Or risk food poisoning, worms, death)

Also, I don't think the criticism is quite justified.
Vegetarians only eat plants. So why would one go purchase or have meat lying around just in case?

You guys are probably omnivorous. So you'd expect an omnivore to have a few vegatarian options about.

Likewise, if at a "Carnitarian's" house, is it appropriate to give them guff about not having any vegetables in the crisper drawer? And question why they have house plants?

I understand the joke, but if you put thought into it.. it doesn't quite make sense.

My boyfriend saw me looking at this and he really wanted to do one, too!

Remy's life according to: Offspring!

Are you a male or female? Pay the Man

Describe yourself: Pretty Fly

How do you feel? Living in Chaos

Describe where you currently live: Americana

If you could go anywhere, where would you go?: Walla Walla

Your favorite form of transportation: Vultures

Your best friend is: Killboy Powerhead

You and your best friends are: Million Miles Away

What's the weather like? One Fine Day

Favorite time of day: Staring at the Sun

If your life was a TV show, what would it be called?: Intermission

What is life to you: Dammit, I Changed Again

Your current relationship: She's Got Issues

Your fear: Hand Grenades

What is the best advice you have to give? Come Out Swinging

Thought for the Day: We Are One

How I would like to die: No Brakes

My soul's present condition: Gone Away

My motto: Change the World

>> ^Skeeve:
Interesting video but it is a dupe of a more accurately named video here: http://www.videosift.com/video/Buzzard-Gets-Clipped-By-Wind-Turbine



*dupeof=http://www.videosift.com/video/Buzzard-Gets-Clipped-By-Wind-Turbine

Parahawking involves skydiving while specially-trained birds of prey swarm around you, including vultures, eagles, and falcons. It’s available in Nepal courtesy of a bird rescue group called Himalayan Raptor Rescue. Hypothetically, it should lead to a superior paragliding experience:

Birds of prey have a natural instinct to conserve energy wherever and whenever possible. During a flight, a bird will burn more energy than it would if it was just sitting in a tree, this means it has to eat to replace the used energy. Sometimes birds will travel long distances to find food. To conserve energy whilst flying, birds of prey use thermals. Thermals are rising currents of warm air that are created by the sun heating the ground. Birds can gain height and travel long distances without flapping their wings by using thermals. Paragliders also use thermals when they are flying and will often use wild birds to guide them to where the thermals are. Our trained birds are no different, they will find the thermals in order to stay aloft and conserve energy whilst flying. We as paragliders harness their ability to conserve energy by following them as we fly.

Our birds need to be rewarded for guiding us into the thermals. During the flight the passenger will place small morsels of meat onto his gloved hand, the birds will come and gently land on the hand to take the food, and then gracefully fly away to find the next thermal. A perfect symbiotic relationship.

This tandem aerial sport was first developed in 2001, and since then it has joined climbing Mt. Everest and going to that monkey temple as a must-do for anyone visiting Nepal. $150 buys you a 30 minute glide through Parahawking.com.

Those same insiders had Bush in Florida, and at a photo-op with second graders while they went to work on that fateful day. When Bush heard the news and frantically tried to get back to the White house, he was warned (falsely) that Air Force One would be a target, so they never took off in time. It was only later in the evening that he was able to return to Washington - after all the decisions had been made by those same neo-conservative vultures behind the scenes.

>> ^enon:
Ahhh cool! are we playing the leave random comments that don't make sense game?!
Let me try!
"Blue cow coated eggo waffles smiling for pristine!"
What do I win?


you win a wonderful wacky wizard hat with wings attached to wear at weddings or while wandering wistfully

Excellent sift, kronos. The animation is made from cartoons Joe Strummer made before he joined the Clash. They were made when he was with "The Vultures" and "The 101'ers" (named after the address where they were squatting).

Y'all mythalogical niggaz is comical
The astronomical is comin through like the flu bombin you
And embalmin in your crew too
With the musical mystical magical you know how I do
With word attack skills and vocabulary too
My rendition of this Edition is all brand New
You're through I make the planetarian like Doctor Who (who who?)
So Who! (who?)
Born to get tripped on, word is bond
I'm kickin rhymes til the A.M. vultures swarm
Not Quincy but I'm Back on the Block and not sellin crack
I'm comin in with the fat funk flows and tracks
So what you sayin black, with all that yackedy yack
My artifacts can't be beat with bats
I'm sayin, I eat up everthing up on the menu
and bend you and send you swayin, to be continued...

Spur of the moment opponents are suspects
Caught up in precipitation reign of the tech/niques
I speak my concepts freak
The ich-ni-son-shi funk figures of speech
Now that shit is in the open, I'm open, tokin, scopin
Waitin for the next nigga to get opened on
And break him down like a organic compound
That's the weight of the world as the Earth goes round
Now, how the fuck you sound?
I represent my clique, Microphone Pound
You better pack your leather, dope, or medication for the shakin
Meditation from the earth-to-quakin shit that we be bakin
Never fakin I gets down for my crown clown
Shakin the membrane of Encyclopedia Brown
Freakin the funk in any throwdown
While you sustain the sounds, up in ya...

I comes down breakin ground
So back up offa me and sit yo' ass down
Now when I'm on the microphone I roam through zones
But don't be tryin this shit at home
No matter what race creed colour him or her
I comes cleaner than Jeru, and Damage an amateur
As chronical facial disorders occur
I'll assassinate your character's caliber
I channel my anger, from the double edged banger (Banger!)
and turn into the microphone strangler
Stop tryin to see where your eyes can't follow
Say goodnight to the world and goodbye to tomorrow
You rave and cuss so it's a must ya get bust
We're not to be fucked with, Toys Ain't Us
For eternity, through infinity
I eternally, get in ya...

What you folks want? Yeah
We got the funk so come on down
What you folks want? Yeah
We got the funk so come on down
What you folks want?
We got the funk so come on down...

burdturgler said: "You're going to have a hard time standing on whatever moral ground you think you have if you think it's OK to look down and not only laugh about a person who committed suicide, but find any joy in it. You're entitled to think whatever you want about this guy ... celebrating his suicide makes you the sick one imo. ... I'm voicing my disgust over your wanton carelessness for human life and complete disregard for it..."

I can't begin to describe how many things are wrong with this argument. First, the guy was a piece of filth. Always was, and always will be. His "non-profit" organization that he was attempting to establish was set up to "donate 10% of profits" (what?) to other "charities" such as Billy Graham. (ie: Other vultures.)

I would absolutely love nothing more than to hear Billy Graham committed suicide. That man is responsible for the fleecing if literal MILLIONS of dollars from uneducated and ignorant Christians over several decades. This piece of filth, who got his first 15 minutes of fame by attempting to completely devastate a girl that had dumped him (which ultimately she got the last laugh, in forwarding his E-Mail ending with him getting fired) and now he's wanting to set up his own evangelical "network" so he can try and cash in on the Billy Graham fame? An obvious failure at his political career he decided to find another way to fleece money.

Just in case his evangelism didn't bring in money from the Christians, let's also set up a completely fake and impossibly rigged "competition" to see if we can get some cash from the athiests/agnostics while we're at it, huh? And how about this:

"[At UVA], I spent the greater part of my free time evangelizing to the lost. I ... regularly attended UVA’s Atheist Club as the only Christian represented in attendance."

So now, not even clubs SPECIFICALLY FORMED to get AWAY from his specific kind of douchebaggery are safe. He just couldn't leave people alone.

It's specifically people such as him that are what's wrong with the entire world as a whole today. Nobody can be content with just allowing other people to live their lives. They want to FORCE everyone to live the life *THEY* want them to live. This guy was a shining example of this, and I thank whatever God may exist that he never had the chance to reproduce and continue spawning more douchelings to screw up this world even further.

Yes, I would dance on his grave.

I do not believe for a minute that he had "Bi-Polar" syndrome. I believe this is what his equally as fundamentalist parents have had to convince themselves of because the guy was a prick, and he KNEW he was a prick. His "bi-polar" was nothing more than him having to pretend to be someone he wasn't half the time. It's a shame that his family would even use this crutch when there are people out there that ACTUALLY HAVE BI POLAR SYNDROME. I do, however, believe that there must have been some form of mental disorder, particularly any severe mental retardation, if he does actually believe any of what he says.

He was a failure. He was a failure to himself, he was a failure to his parents, he was a failure to all of his false friends, and he was a failure to humanity. Obviously, he finally got smart and realized it.

Yes, I celebrate the deaths of people like this. When Billy Graham finally goes, I will do a little dance. Every time a person like this dies, a small little part of me that they previously killed comes back to life.

The health care part I don't think needs to be as hard as some think it is, solutions seem to be both in reach and non-damaging to any real competition. The only ones hurt should be the vultures. It's based on costs and reducing them, the following page will help set the table for the idea. The Kaiser Family Foundation, home of the Kaiser Permanente health care groups, offers a bit of data for it and tends to be a well respected source.

http://www.kff.org/insurance/snapshot/chcm010307oth.cfm

As that demonstrates we as Americans pay twice as much or close to it per capita what other nations do, nations such as Germany, United Kingdom, Sweden and so on manage to cover all of their people and to do it for about half of what we pay to just cover some of them. The why of it is both the problem and the solution.

Private insurance companies have managed to insert themselves so heavily into our politics and policy over the last few decades that as rules were rewritten they always tended to be weighted in favor of those who donated big money, and that wasn't us as consumers. Simply replace them if they can't be more than vultures. I do NOT want "socialized health care" in the sense of a micromanaged system but there does seem to be both valid reason and need to have national insurance.

That would probably cover just basic services such as high blood pressure, check ups, and such like that, the expensive stuff such as transplants would likely still fall under supplemental insurance for those who can afford it. They don't tell the docs what to do, we've got medical boards to set standards of care. They just pay the bills. And the docs and hospitals are still self employed, they just submit basic services to a national insurance instead of private.

Yes, there's a million ways it could be done badly but paying twice as much as others for worse services isn't exactly an option worth defending either. We've just got to pay attention and stay involved if we can manage that.

Other aspects of this mess are similar. We don't need sweeping changes to our way of life or anything ridiculous like that, we just need some moderation and redistribution. Yes, I know, dirty word redistribution is, at least until we think about circumstances and the extent we'll redistribute it to. Over the last 30 or so years worker productivity has climbed and climbed again, business profits have climbed and climbed again, and CEO compensation has climbed then climbed again. The one that that hasn't changed much is OUR level of compensation. Real wages adjusted for inflation has been nearly stagnant with minor increases compared to the value offered.

They donated the big bucks, they made the rules to more and more favor themselves, and though yes, it was all legal, it's also legal to say enough is enough and it's time to stop profiteering while your nation falls into disrepair. Power attracts power and money attracts money, we all know it works like that and on the surface there's nothing wrong with that. At least not until it's taken to an extreme. When we hit that extreme we end up with depressions, revolutions, or other civil disturbances which serve to level the playing field again. If we want to avoid the occasional unrest and disturbance we've got to keep a better balance in the first place. Balance is what we forgot. You can't keep feeding the majority of a nations wealth to a very small number of people and expect that nation to become anything but poor as a whole. If the people can't afford to buy anymore the markets cease to function and all the free market idealism in the world won't get them going again. You need to keep money in the pockets of those who are most likely to actually spend it too.