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Dog Saved From Euthanasia When Vet Finds Paralyzing Tick

ahimsa (Member Profile)

newtboy says...

Absolutely not a straw man when the statement it contradicts was "The idea that some lives matter less is the root of all that's wrong with the world.”
At what point do you decide (for yourself, the only one you get to decide for) 'sentience' exists? Shrimp? Crabs? If so, then logically also mosquitos, gnats, and ticks.
Also, why have YOU decided so capriciously that 'sentience' is the measure of a life's worth? What, if anything, do you base that decision on? Perhaps a sense of biological superiority?

BUT you insist others adopt YOUR definitions of non violence, oppression, exploitation, others, property.

Again, you insist that "every human believes" something you believe. That's absolutely not true of ANYTHING, and totally wrong about this topic...clearly. It clearly doesn't 'when it concerns humans' or we wouldn't be murdering and torturing each other as we are.

We clearly disagree that animal consumption is the MAIN issue globally....just as we clearly disagree that it's even a possibility for humanity to switch to a purely vegetarian diet...pasture land is not the same as farmable land.

There are certainly ecological issues with meat production on the scale and in the manner we do it today...there was no such issue when the population being fed was 1/10 what it is today....no one burned massive portions of the rainforests to raise cattle 150 years ago, they didn't need to.

When I see a video like this that highlights people being kind to animalS (the dog AND the bird) it's disturbing that people are so disconnected with normalcy that they see a connection with murder and torture....or that they see murder and torture where it doesn't exist, and disturbing that they feel the need to shit on the happy video comments with a 'but you're all murdering bastards...feel bad and capitulate'.

Yeah, again, I don't click random links, and I don't get science from the internet, no need to read any vegan propaganda. Thanks

Ask 10 people on the street if they think it's OK to humanely raise animals for consumption, 9.95 of them will say "yes".
Now you are equating intentional harm with unintentional harm, equating intentional frivolous casual injuring and killing for pleasure with occasional unintentional injuring and killing for an essential purpose.

ahimsa said:

not really-life = sentient life is the only assertion which i clarified and this assumption was stated from the beginning so was implied. the suggestion that this changes everything is a classic straw man fallacy.

the imperatives which i am espousing on are merely non-violence and a rejection of oppression, exploitation and using others as property and economic commodities which almost every human believes when it concerns humans and perhaps a few other species. it is only the others whom should be considered under the umbrella of moral concern which is the key point of the issue for most people.

as far as the population, the main reason WHY the human population IS such an issue is due to the consumption of animal products. along with the obvious moral and ethical issues of murdering other sentient beings, the production of animal based foods requires many times the resources to produce an equivalent calorie compared to plant based food which drives things like climate change, resource depletion, water scarcity, biodiversity, species extinction and other aspects of environmental devastation.

when a video such as this one comes up which highlights people being kind to an animal, it is disturbing that people are so disconnected that they do not make the connection between the animals in the video whom they feel good about being rescued and the countless others which are being tortured and murdered for their dinner plate. this is exactly what the short article i posed above articulates so well.

“Ask ten people on the street if they think it’s wrong to injure or kill animals for one’s amusement or pleasure, and nine or ten will say yes, of course. Chances are all ten of those people freely consume animal products, simply because they like to and they’re used to doing it." - Karen Manfrede

Bernie Sanders rape letter

dannym3141 says...

This reads like someone was ticking off a checklist of a professional smear attack.

- Have we opened with the most emotive words we know? Check!
- Have we loosely associated those words with our intended target? Check!
- Have we taken the opportunity to associate paedophilia with homosexuality? Check!
- Have we associated open mindedness with sexual predation? Check!
- But have we belittled someone for a personal attack even though we initiated it and he was quoting our own words back at us? Check!
- What about covering our retreat - have we implied that anyone who disagrees is delusional? Of course! What? I mean check!

I'm 100% convinced that bob is a very well constructed parody of the far right wing.

bobknight33 said:

Your rapist pedophile dreamer Democrat want a be president wrote it!
Guess his platform of openness to sexual orientation did not mention to allow pedophiles -- oops -- Guess we need to be a bit more open minded.


Blame the messenger and not the message. Typical.

Good to see the tolerant left accept damning truth.

Elon apparently tweeted this then deleted it...

Jinx says...

I'm trapped.

In explaining why I am trapped I'd also be undermining my reasons for not ticking the sarcasm box. My only recourse is to double down:

- because I was being deadly serious.

Your move.

Esoog said:

Then why didn't they use the sarcasm check box?

Robot Tries to Escape from Children's Abuse

Jinx says...

Kevin over at Boston Robotics is just trying to prepare their robots to survive in a hard knock full of heartless arseholes and kids.

At least that's what my Dad told me.

That was a joke. My Dad is lovely. Domestic violence isn't funny. I'm sorry.

Anyway, tick ageist robot off the list. Next up is sexist, then racist... before long we'll have AI indistinguishable from humans!

Payback said:

Ya, Kevin over at Boston Robotics proves it doesn't end there...

Idiocracy explains Trump voters

newtboy says...

...Except for Bernie Sanders, who ticks every box in your third paragraph.

coolhund said:

Exactly. There have been more than enough examples of it in history.
And thats why I am shocked how opposing politicians and media still treat people like Trump the same way that only paves the way for them exactly like those historical examples show.
They dont offer better solutions, they dont get more honest, they are not less corrupt, they dont listen more to normal people, they are not less hypocritical. They just attack them on the same level as they are.

Reaction to the Fine Brother's "React" Youtube controversy

Sepacore says...

TFB are disingenuous scammers at worst, and blinded by greed at best.
Claiming this as a community focus is deceptive.. unless suppressing and ripping off the community counts, in which case, touché.

Their next attempt will be to trademark the notions, occurrences and content of "an idea", "a thought", "a feeling" and just to cover everything else off and be proper dicks "a thing".

Link to their decreasing subscriber count, every downwards tick = a smile
http://www.livecounts.x10host.com/?channel=Fine%20Brothers%20Entertainment

Paris - Doctor Who Anti War speech

coolhund says...

Oh, Im sorry for calling out his bullshit. PC is much more important than the truth, right? No. PC creates taboos, and taboos have no place in a real democracy by definition.
And thats not opinions, that actually facts. There are even psychological studies about this. But the biggest bully of the world of course wont accept those facts and call them opinions, not only because he doesnt know anything else and would never admit he caused all this crap, but also because people like those would lose their power instantly. Funny how the first concern was about blame, he was afraid of being exposed, like they all are. And here I am putting out blame to the ignorant people who dont want to accept reality and being attacked because of it. Also something learned from history. We had to fight a world war to make people realize what a piece of shit they voted. Again, nothing learned from history. "But I didnt vote for them" instead.

These people are mentally ill, always have been for thousands of years. And they rule THE superpower nowadays. Normally history would have taught us about people like those very well, yet they are still being elected into power, if that history would be taught in schools. Well, it is, but there is no connection being made. "People today are completely different. We are hard working, honest, freedom loving democratic people who love all that lives, no comparison from the Romans or medieval times!!111eleven". BULLSHIT. Humanity hasnt changed a bit. And everyone knows that who knows just a bit of actual history. FACTS.

And now ridicule me for semi-ticking out with things you dont understand, and thus they must be stupid.

dingens said:

Ad hominem attacks because some one doesn't share your opinion? That's low..

Do you think everyone who doesn't applaud you comments is an american neocon? Grow up!

EOD for me.

After Hours: The Terrifying Truth about Doc Brown (BTTF)

poolcleaner says...

I spent October 21st skateboarding with the wife. Ahhh, 1950s Tony Hawk, thank you for inspiring the future -- even if you didn't make hoverboards a reality.

But really, the fun of skateboarding is in the resistance that the wheels have on the ground. Being able to propel oneself forward and back; tick tacking, drifting, ollieooping (hah), and other fun maneuvers not possible with a hoverboard. I truly prefer wheels, berrings, and the donuts & trucks which support them.

Tesla's Autopilot System Is Creepy And Wonderful

the world is a bit less brighter today (Death Talk Post)

evil_disco_man says...

Thank you for being you, schmawy. The world needs more genuine souls, not fewer.

Wish I could've known him better... but for comfort, the last time I talked to him, he gave a blessing to my new kitten, which I'll cherish.

"A bounty of kibble be upon thee. Let thou never be beset by tick or flea. Meowmen."

I'll be damned if I don't make that happen, and will love the shit out of him in your honor. Better luck on the other side, schmawy.

On Point with Sarah Palin 'Interviews' Donald Trump

moonsammy says...

Sweet jeebus. She's... words fail. Seriously. It's just rambling nonsense with little punctuation, eventually culminating in a tonal uptick? indicating a question?. He's no better, as it's like a recitation of powerpoint bullet items, strung together with little structure or sense. I can't fathom anyone seriously considering voting for either of these ignorant yokels. Perhaps nihilists. That would actually make sense.

Shoreham Air Show, Sussex - Plane Crash

BoneRemake says...

Good sir/madam.

I can assure you with quite the high end intelligence you seem to be requesting- I have not " ticked" the sarcasm box knowingly.

A10anis said:

U forgot to tick the sarcasm box. What the hell has an air show got 2 do with terrorists???

Shoreham Air Show, Sussex - Plane Crash

The Daily Show - Barack Obama extended interview

MilkmanDan says...

That was good.

I might disagree with Obama's near-blanket statement at the end - "government (at large) works better than when I came into office".

That's a hard statement to evaluate because government is a BIG thing. I think that the portion that he is responsible for (Executive branch) definitely works better than it did under Bush (which, to be fair, isn't saying much). The Judicial branch just made a hugely positive wave with the ruling on gay marriage, so I'd tick their "better than before" box also.

But the Legislative branch is a complete f*cking disaster. To be fair (again, on the other side), Obama technically has no control over that. But still, with Congress being such a complete and total epic fail, I take issue with the "government works better than when I came into office" quote.

I don't see how things can improve much, shy of taking a mulligan and replacing every last Senator and Representative.

...Hey, maybe Obama should have let Iran have *1* nuke, so long as they.... /sarcasm



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