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JiggaJonson (Member Profile)

dag says...

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I'd love to turn VideoSift into a nonprofit. I had some chats with @Krupo a while back about this a while back - unfortunately inertia got the better of me.

In reply to this comment by JiggaJonson:
Not to interrupt your shit slinging w throbbin but I wasn't at home when u posted the state of the sift sifttalk post. Anyway I wondered if having a nonprofit status was an option at all. I don't know exactly what the implications would be legally but as far as I know, to become a nonprofit you have to provide a social, educational, religious, or cultural service for no charge.

You would still be able to sell ad space and I've heard of schools selling ads on like tests. We'd be able to take advantage of all kinds of non for profit perks like goodsearch.com and skip out on taxes etc. Just a thought that deserves some consideration IMHO.

dag (Member Profile)

JiggaJonson says...

Not to interrupt your shit slinging w throbbin but I wasn't at home when u posted the state of the sift sifttalk post. Anyway I wondered if having a nonprofit status was an option at all. I don't know exactly what the implications would be legally but as far as I know, to become a nonprofit you have to provide a social, educational, religious, or cultural service for no charge.

You would still be able to sell ad space and I've heard of schools selling ads on like tests. We'd be able to take advantage of all kinds of non for profit perks like goodsearch.com and skip out on taxes etc. Just a thought that deserves some consideration IMHO.

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Do you think LIndsay Lohan should be released from jail? (User Poll by Tymbrwulf)

Sarzy says...

>> ^Throbbin:

The worst part is that Tymberwulfs poll included an element related to videosift i.e. the inclusion of options pushing for channel-specific polls. In my humble opinion, that is considerably closer to the stated guidelines for a poll than a poll about a beard on a tv show. This indirect approach unfortunately results in suggestions of a stick in Tymberwulfs ass by @Sarzy. How very sad.


My issue wasn't with Tymberwulf's message (he's probably right about the beard poll being off-topic for sift talk) but rather the sanctimonious, humourless way he delivered it.

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Do you think LIndsay Lohan should be released from jail? (User Poll by Tymbrwulf)

dag says...

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That's some quality outrage there. You could be right- perhaps the Jon Stewart video should have been deleted as well- I'm not a perfect judge. Although I would resist any notion that I would let a poll stay up based on the person who posted it.

Anyway, we do want to keep the Sift Talk front page primarily to do with things related to VideoSift - although this poll may have had some VideoSift questions in it - it was put together in a confusing way - to be honest, I'm not sure what it was asking.

>> ^Throbbin:

I salute you @Tymberwulf, for having the intestinal fortitude to challenge the prevailing winds of VS. Jon Stewart? Sure - certainly sounds like it fits within "videosift related or related to "online video" in some fashion", don't it?
Could be that the original rational offered by @dag - that there are just so many Jon Stewart vids on VS so it's cool - is kinda weak? Maybe there's just something I'm missing. Maybe a double standard was exposed, and maybe it's just not cool to bring that kind of thing to light.
The worst part is that Tymberwulfs poll included an element related to videosift i.e. the inclusion of options pushing for channel-specific polls. In my humble opinion, that is considerably closer to the stated guidelines for a poll than a poll about a beard on a tv show. This indirect approach unfortunately results in suggestions of a stick in Tymberwulfs ass by @Sarzy. How very sad.
Some would say it is better to go along to get along. Others would say that's an awful way to view things.

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dag (Member Profile)

Throbbin says...

If that wasn't your intent, I apoologize too.

Good luck with the sift.

In reply to this comment by dag:
No sarcasm in my post that I can see. I'll take your "go fuck yourself" under advisement - might be just what I need.

In reply to this comment by Throbbin:
Heh. Sarcasm, how original!

May you live in interesting times.>> ^dag:

I don't think I called you a petulant child. Though I may have - it sounds like something I would say. I'm sorry you deleted your original missive - I always like a good flame. On review, the petulant child thing must be about me saying that always looking for instances of bias and favouritism is something that my kids do. It is indeed something they do - and something that does seem to happen here a fair bit. As a parent and as an admin of this site - I try really, really hard to be fair and unbiased.
I don't dislike you at all - I don't think I've been hostile - though I may have - I apoologize, if so. Feel free to tell me to go fuck myself - I love that phrase. It won't get you banned, that's for sure.
>> ^Throbbin:
I had this whole long diatribe written here, giving you a piece of my mind. But, before I hit submit, I gave it a second thoguht and erased it all.
Long story short, I was frustrated with something I didn't like. You called me a petulant child. I was about to tell you to go fuck yourself, but I doubt that would do anybody any good.
I've always liked you more than you liked me. I think I would really enjoy talking with you about your experiences in Alaska. Maybe I was a little brash in how I went about things. Maybe you just can't stand me. Maybe a bit of both.
Either way, I'd still like to chit chat sometime IRL. Take it easy.
Throbbin


Throbbin (Member Profile)

dag says...

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No sarcasm in my post that I can see. I'll take your "go fuck yourself" under advisement - might be just what I need.

In reply to this comment by Throbbin:
Heh. Sarcasm, how original!

May you live in interesting times.>> ^dag:

I don't think I called you a petulant child. Though I may have - it sounds like something I would say. I'm sorry you deleted your original missive - I always like a good flame. On review, the petulant child thing must be about me saying that always looking for instances of bias and favouritism is something that my kids do. It is indeed something they do - and something that does seem to happen here a fair bit. As a parent and as an admin of this site - I try really, really hard to be fair and unbiased.
I don't dislike you at all - I don't think I've been hostile - though I may have - I apoologize, if so. Feel free to tell me to go fuck myself - I love that phrase. It won't get you banned, that's for sure.
>> ^Throbbin:
I had this whole long diatribe written here, giving you a piece of my mind. But, before I hit submit, I gave it a second thoguht and erased it all.
Long story short, I was frustrated with something I didn't like. You called me a petulant child. I was about to tell you to go fuck yourself, but I doubt that would do anybody any good.
I've always liked you more than you liked me. I think I would really enjoy talking with you about your experiences in Alaska. Maybe I was a little brash in how I went about things. Maybe you just can't stand me. Maybe a bit of both.
Either way, I'd still like to chit chat sometime IRL. Take it easy.
Throbbin


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dag (Member Profile)

Throbbin says...

Heh. Sarcasm, how original!

May you live in interesting times.>> ^dag:

I don't think I called you a petulant child. Though I may have - it sounds like something I would say. I'm sorry you deleted your original missive - I always like a good flame. On review, the petulant child thing must be about me saying that always looking for instances of bias and favouritism is something that my kids do. It is indeed something they do - and something that does seem to happen here a fair bit. As a parent and as an admin of this site - I try really, really hard to be fair and unbiased.
I don't dislike you at all - I don't think I've been hostile - though I may have - I apoologize, if so. Feel free to tell me to go fuck myself - I love that phrase. It won't get you banned, that's for sure.
>> ^Throbbin:
I had this whole long diatribe written here, giving you a piece of my mind. But, before I hit submit, I gave it a second thoguht and erased it all.
Long story short, I was frustrated with something I didn't like. You called me a petulant child. I was about to tell you to go fuck yourself, but I doubt that would do anybody any good.
I've always liked you more than you liked me. I think I would really enjoy talking with you about your experiences in Alaska. Maybe I was a little brash in how I went about things. Maybe you just can't stand me. Maybe a bit of both.
Either way, I'd still like to chit chat sometime IRL. Take it easy.
Throbbin


Throbbin (Member Profile)

dag says...

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I don't think I called you a petulant child. Though I may have - it sounds like something I would say. I'm sorry you deleted your original missive - I always like a good flame. On review, the petulant child thing must be about me saying that always looking for instances of bias and favouritism is something that my kids do. It is indeed something they do - and something that does seem to happen here a fair bit. As a parent and as an admin of this site - I try really, really hard to be fair and unbiased. I don't dislike you at all - I don't think I've been hostile - though I may have - I apoologize, if so. Feel free to tell me to go fuck myself - I love that phrase. It won't get you banned, that's for sure.


In reply to this comment by Throbbin:
I had this whole long diatribe written here, giving you a piece of my mind. But, before I hit submit, I gave it a second thoguht and erased it all.

Long story short, I was frustrated with something I didn't like. You called me a petulant child. I was about to tell you to go fuck yourself, but I doubt that would do anybody any good.

I've always liked you more than you liked me. I think I would really enjoy talking with you about your experiences in Alaska. Maybe I was a little brash in how I went about things. Maybe you just can't stand me. Maybe a bit of both.

Either way, I'd still like to chit chat sometime IRL. Take it easy.

Throbbin

gwiz665 (Member Profile)

Throbbin says...

Fuck it. I like this place too much to go around burning bridges.

I'll have internet up there (sooner or later). However, internet speeds are pretty dismal up there, and bandwidth is expensive. So I'll be on FB and reading my news - but no VS unless I'm travelling in the south for work.

In reply to this comment by gwiz665:
Ah, yeah. The polls are a bit fickle. I can understand his viewpoint and JS is a pretty big part of videosift with all the posts from TDS.

Anyway, keep your pants on for now. If there had been a person lining up to do something serious, like a channel idea, that one would likely have dropped too. Being patronized never works well, that happened to me too at one point... took a considerate amount of willpower not to rage out at that point.

If I make it over there, I'll give you plenty of head start.

Are you going to be without Internet when you move?

In reply to this comment by Throbbin:
Yeah, I know it comes and goes. I'm moving on Wednesday, and I just didn't want to spent my last hours on VS with a cloud over my head.

Yeah, my poll was actually discarded.

http://videosift.com/poll/Which-of-these-people-was-most-influential-in-human-history?loadcomm=1#comment-974550

I thought it would generate some great discussion and debate and all that fun stuff. I understand the whole guidelines aspect, but when I saw that Jon Stewart poll I got miffed. Being equated with a petulant child just angried up my blood even more.

I like that Akvavit. If and when you do come over this way, do me a favour and give me plenty of lead time so I can let you know if I'll be in the south for a meeting or something.

In reply to this comment by gwiz665:
Don't worry about it. Drama comes and goes, and take this from someone who's been in a lot of sift drama - it passes.

Was your poll actually discarded? I thought it just ran its course.

I may come across at some point and I will bring you a few bottles - that stuff'll kill ya! In a good way.

In reply to this comment by Throbbin:
I may take you up on that hug. I feel bad - all this drama I've created, none of which was my intention. I was just peeved that my soft poll was booted...

I hear you may come across the pond sometime. If you do, and we can arrange a little meet-up, bring over a botttle of Akvavit would ya? That's what we were drinking the night of our impromptu siftup vid, and it knocked me on my ass pretty good.

In reply to this comment by gwiz665:
Naw man, iz all good. We've had fluffier polls before. The trouble with channel specific polls is that we have no easy way to get to them at this point, if they would be on their own subdomain for instance. And having multiple polls at once will likely be confusing.

If there's nothing else going on, a little soft poll - polls have never been softer - is fine, to keep people on their toes. As long as we don't overdo it.

and @Throbbin you can always get a comfort hug from me..



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