To call the battlefield franchise "well made" is a bit of an insult to high quality fps games. BF2 was released CHOCK full of bugs (if you played it, you'll know) and was left unmaintained. Certain game-breaking bugs were left in for months and months at a time despite ruining huge aspects of the game. On top of the bugs that were not fixed, new content was released and promoted - that ALSO contained bugs. Even when bugs were fixed, new bugs were introduced. And many of the fixes involved changes that negatively affected other aspects of play! How can this be called "well made"?

I consider myself an experienced gamer. I enjoy many genres, and have been playing for ~18 years. I don't just play huge titles, but i do play those too. I play indie games, casual games, you name it. The only company that i go out of my way to avoid is EA and that's due to bad experiences with their games. I am not "just a hater", as i did play dragon age and sang its praises once i'd come to accept that it wasn't simply another standard EA title.

Take bioware for example. Before they were 'bought' by EA they made some of the (arguably, but almost universally accepted) best games of their particular genre. Baldur's gate 1 and 2, neverwinter nights.... we're talking sweeping epics that involved in depth and original story lines that carried the game single handedly (i mean, it was only isometric, the story was everything). Then suddenly, EA get involved and bioware produce mass effect - instead of being able to choose from a plethora of moral and immoral dialog options, actions, we get a good/neutral/evil meter and equivalent options. I'm not going to tell anyone mass effect is a bad game; it is up to the public to decide and they have decided it's good. But i insist that, but for the dated graphics, their earlier RPGs were better in every single other way, and what they provide in their modern RPGs falls short on any RPG checklist you care to make when you put it up against Baldur's gate, icewind dale, etc.

I was very excited when dragon age was released, but then immediately disappointed again when dragon age 2 was released - and who can honestly claim that 2 lived up to 1? Can anyone deny that it was shat out at maximum velocity to cash in quickly on the success of the first? It was a completely different game!?

I hope i have managed to not sound like an anti-fanboy cock; i have spent hundreds and hundreds of pounds on game flops by EA which were underhandedly promoted by reviewers that i then learned not to trust. I feel utterly cheated by them but that is why i don't buy their games now, and that's why you'll find more and more people expressing the opinions herein and in the video. So yes, it's very easy to say "lolz u shudnt buy there gamez u foolz", but when there's several teams of people working together to try and trick you into doing something it may take you a few goes before you learn what the shape of the turd looks like. It's underhanded and i would have thought you could understand why people get annoyed by that.

I'm not surprised piracy has increased with the steady decline in VALUE FOR MONEY. I payed £30 for half life 1 and i still play it to this day. I'd gladly pay £100 for it in retrospect. The first installment of a battlefield game costs me £40, and £15 for an extra few maps or guns they add. Valve are still giving me stuff for free, and i cannot thank them enough for putting pride in their work, and for that they will have the kind of brand respect that EA will never get.

@Fletch hit the nail right on the head. I don't think people who disagree are stupid, or wrong, or anything. But if you haven't experienced the old AND the new (that goes for everyone, not just fans of the new or just fans of the old), then you are not in an ideal position to put forward arguments about whether or not games have increased in value for money, or decreased in value for money; i'm glad you enjoy modern games, but i feel disappointed and cheated by them and that's a perfectly valid thing to express, and it is not your place to tell someone they're over reacting or being a baby. If you haven't tried it yourself, you can't know for sure.

I think that is what this guy was trying to say in a humourous way, probably didn't do the best job of it ever but it was at least funny. And do remember it was meant to be funny. I think some people in this thread in favour of EA have looked more foolish in their pro-EA arguments than this guy did in his anti-EA exaggerations. Remember it was meant to be funny.

TL:DR - i don't blame you

God provides the evidence; that's what I mean about being able to empirically verify my claim.
No, that's not empirical evidence in anyone's definition of it... not one bit. You 'invited him in', you 'get some feeling'... that's not proof, that's you feeling stuff. Not empirical evidence.

It is exactly the definition. If it is untrue, nothing will happen. If it is true, God will come into your life and change you. That is empirical verification. It isn't "some feeling". It is a supernatural encounter with God which will utterly transform your life. You're simply arguing from ignorance, here.

So no comment on what Penn said?
Yeah, he has a view that if you really believe in the bible and you really believe that people will spend eternity in damnation if they don't repent. If you really believe that. Then it is upon you to actually try to save people from that fate. He felt that this man did that for him out of kindness and did it with a kind heart.

Now I bet (in fact I'm sure he's talked about such things) his views on people telling others that they're horrible people for being gay, that they are an abomination, that they should never be able to be married (which is a man made construct, nothing to do with a 'god')... and for people who do that in a way which makes others uncomfortable. I bet he has a problem with that.

I think his point was that this man believed what he does, this man felt that Teller deserved to 'be saved' and tried to help him be saved in a really NICE way. He didn't badger him, he didn't verbally attack him as being godless... he just gave him a gift that he hoped would help him find 'his truth'.

Now it won't at all, Teller will never become religious, but he saw the man came from a good place.

What you do here is entirely different. Any video on evolution or science or anything that goes against your world view is shat on by you. That's abusive, that's combative, that's not trying to save people.

And you didn't mention why you posted a version of the video with him reiterating that he's an atheist rather than the full one.
His point was, if you believe that Jesus is God, and His words are true, you are going to tell people the gospel. He may agree or disagree with how a particular person may do that; that isn't the point. Jesus told people flat out what was right and wrong, He talked about hell, and He told people the truth. There are many biblical examples of sharing the gospel, and I am in line with them.

It's amazing though, as you get through insulting me throughout the thread, that you are going to say I am abusive and combative because I post my opinions on science videos. That's kind of a joke, I think. I can't post anywhere or say anything without getting flak from the usual suspects. It doesn't matter what it is. Perhaps you prefer an echo-chamber where everyone agrees with you all the time, but suprise, it's a diverse world out there and a diversity of viewpoints.

I didn't mention why I posted the shorter video because there was no conspiracy. That's the video I initially found, I figured shorter was better than longer, and I posted it. It turns out that the longer one was posted on here already, so even if I had wanted to, I couldn't have posted it. Also, don't say Penn will never give his life to Jesus Christ. I believe that he will. If he is thoughtful enough to understand evangelism from the chistian viewpoint, somewhere in his heart he is open to knowing God. God can change a heart in the blink of an eye.

>> ^spoco2:

@shinyblurry:
God provides the evidence; that's what I mean about being able to empirically verify my claim.
No, that's not empirical evidence in anyone's definition of it... not one bit. You 'invited him in', you 'get some feeling'... that's not proof, that's you feeling stuff. Not empirical evidence.

So no comment on what Penn said?
Yeah, he has a view that if you really believe in the bible and you really believe that people will spend eternity in damnation if they don't repent. If you really believe that. Then it is upon you to actually try to save people from that fate. He felt that this man did that for him out of kindness and did it with a kind heart.

Now I bet (in fact I'm sure he's talked about such things) his views on people telling others that they're horrible people for being gay, that they are an abomination, that they should never be able to be married (which is a man made construct, nothing to do with a 'god')... and for people who do that in a way which makes others uncomfortable. I bet he has a problem with that.

I think his point was that this man believed what he does, this man felt that Teller deserved to 'be saved' and tried to help him be saved in a really NICE way. He didn't badger him, he didn't verbally attack him as being godless... he just gave him a gift that he hoped would help him find 'his truth'.

Now it won't at all, Teller will never become religious, but he saw the man came from a good place.

What you do here is entirely different. Any video on evolution or science or anything that goes against your world view is shat on by you. That's abusive, that's combative, that's not trying to save people.

And you didn't mention why you posted a version of the video with him reiterating that he's an atheist rather than the full one.

I'd love to see a *working channel. It's both timely and timeless and it's a nice way to honor those who do most of the work in this society and constantly get shat upon by the powers that be.

Same here, it wouldn't be so bad but I nearly SHAT myself when it kind of hinted that I'd said something naughty. At the time, I was trying to post a video which turned out to be a dupe of one of Blankfist's old posts so I'm wondering if it's in anyway connected to his ban?

So much anger! Chillax, people. Just because a guy on the internet shat all over your favorite game doesn't decrease your worth as a person.

My GotY is Dark Souls, I think Battlefield games are awesome fun, and indie PC games Frozen Synapse and Magicka got most of my actual playtime this year.

>> ^xxovercastxx:

Several years ago I had a robin that would sit on the driver-side mirror of my car and repeatedly slam himself into the window, shitting down the door with each impact. He did this every day, from spring until fall, whenever the car was in the driveway, for 2 years straight.
The porch eagles are definitely cooler than my car robin.


You need to be taught a lesson in appreciation. No bird has shat on my vehicle with repeat offense.

The womb of an American woman is the most dangerous place for an unborn baby to be! Oh, that's so rich that conservatives would bring up economic disparity after how they shat upon the Occupy demonstrations. ROTFLMFAO

Prediction: The OWS movement will influence history about as much as the Tea Party movement did. Both movements show a comparable level of engagement to most presidential election cycles going back 200 years. (Every time it's "life or death like never before.")

SURELY you can't be serious! These OWS ne'er-do-wells are the result of dummy government schools and played up by their limbmedia coaches. They don't know squat, except somehow by magic the government is supposed to sh1t out jobs and "free" money.

Unlike these bums, the Tea Partiers cleaned up after themselves and had to go back to work Monday morning. The people whose taxes pay for everything were shat upon by the lamestream media mucksters and the rest. John Galt where are you?









>> ^chilaxe:

"Is this our Middle Eastern moment, when people rise up..."
Since he's a famous thought leader, let's test his predictive intelligence against our own.
Prediction: The OWS movement will influence history about as much as the Tea Party movement did. Both movements show a comparable level of engagement to most presidential election cycles going back 200 years. (Every time it's "life or death like never before.")
Derive your hope from your own life and your own increasing abilities and knowledge, and not from mass movements

hehehehe, SOMEONE shat good after that I bet. I would bet my left hand (lucy) that is a Cabbage not lettuce.

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>> ^shuac:

It's not just you. Videosift shat the bed again.


VS is on a bed? No wonder!

It's not just you. Videosift shat the bed again.

>> ^critical_d:

I think he would simply tell you that the latest remix/remaster is simply a fine-tuned version of the Star Wars story that he wants to tell. When Phantom Menace rolled out and fans shat themselves when they saw Jar Jar, he dismissed the criticism by explaining that the movies are for kids. Oh well.
Lucasfilm was started because a guy didn't want to have to listen to someone tell him how to tell his own story. There is something to respect in that don't you think?
>> ^ponceleon:
I would pay serious money, like $5k to sit down to Lucas and just have an honest conversation with him about what he's done with this franchise. Not a crazy yelling at him conversation, but just a frank dialogue to try to understand what he really thinks...



Exactly, I'd like to just challenge him (albeit politely) and just see if he could just understand why the criticism exists...

I think he would simply tell you that the latest remix/remaster is simply a fine-tuned version of the Star Wars story that he wants to tell. When Phantom Menace rolled out and fans shat themselves when they saw Jar Jar, he dismissed the criticism by explaining that the movies are for kids. Oh well.

Lucasfilm was started because a guy didn't want to have to listen to someone tell him how to tell his own story. There is something to respect in that don't you think?

>> ^ponceleon:

I would pay serious money, like $5k to sit down to Lucas and just have an honest conversation with him about what he's done with this franchise. Not a crazy yelling at him conversation, but just a frank dialogue to try to understand what he really thinks...