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Vegan Diet or Mediterranean Diet: Which Is Healthier?

transmorpher says...

He did mention fish/white meat, however he was making the point that meats aren't what is making them healthy - the Mediterraneans are healthy despite these animal foods. They are healthy because of the large intake of whole plant foods, as is the case in Japan.

And we know this, because within Japan itself there's a clear relationship between health, and amount of animal products consumed. The traditional Okinawan diet (the place which has the most centenarians int he world) is just 6% calories from animal products, the rest being from sweet potato and rice and veg. Where as mainland Japan where they eat more animal products they don't do as well as their Okinawan neighbors.

This relationship of animal food intake & rates of chronic diseases works on a local level or a global level. Less is always better, all the way to none (Loma Linda 7th day Adventists many of which are vegan by religion tend do the best out of all of the blue zones, when it comes to chronic disease).



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Omega 3 is present in so many plant foods - such as flaxseed/linseed, hemp, chia, and even sea algae (which is where the fish get their omega 3 from)

The benefit of getting omega 3 from plant sources means almost no saturated fat, no cholesterol, no mercury, no IGF-1 raising protein structures (and no antibiotics if you are eating farmed fish). Also they say the ocean will be fishless by 2048..... (which also coincides with the Post Atomic Horror era for the Trekkies out there lol)

Fish also don't have any fiber, (the one macro nutrient everyone pretends doesn't exist, and most people are deficient in). Stay regular and prevent diverticulitis/diverticulitis, and avoid hemorrhoids, and even varicose veins.

Flax also contains lignans which prevents/treats prostate cancer https://www.healthline.com/health/prostate-cancer/flaxseed-and-prostate-cancer.


You just get so much more nutrition out of plants over all. Animal products tend to have a higher amount of a single compound or nutrient, but they have a lot of baggage with it. It's like buying a car, you don't necessarily want the one with the biggest engine, the total package is what's important.


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Whether or not Barnard is a vegan shill, doesn't change the nutritional profiles of foods as shown above.

It also doesn't change the fact he looks, acts and speaks amazing for someone that's 65 years old - clearly putting his theory into practice with wonderful results. And while that is anecdotal, that's certainly something nobody would say about Atkins, or Loran Cordain (Paleo advocate) or Jimmy Moore (Keto advocate), who all look like they could drop dead any minute (and Atkins literally did drop dead).

Mordhaus said:

Eating fish and poultry at least twice a week is conspicuously left off the Mediterranean Diet list here.

Fatty fish — such as mackerel, lake trout, herring, sardines, albacore tuna and salmon — are rich sources of omega-3 fatty acids. Fish is eaten on a regular basis in the Mediterranean diet.

Seems from everything I see, seafood seems to be pretty predominant in Japanese diet intake, the other diet he mentioned in comparison.

So, I figured, let me look up some info on the Dr. presenting here. Neal Barnard is a well known Vegan and founding president of the Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine.

Intriguing, no? Then I looked up the PCRM he is the founding president of (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physicians_Committee_for_Responsible_Medicine). OMG, they just happen to be a non-profit research and advocacy organization based in Washington, D.C., which promotes a vegan diet, preventive medicine, and alternatives to animal research, and encourages what it describes as "higher standards of ethics and effectiveness in research." Its tax filing shows its activities as "prevention of cruelty to animals."

So it is a combination of a Vegan diet promotional group AND PETA. It also seems that they don't mind omitting parts of 'competing' diets to promote their own. Basically this is the equivalent of a organization like Atkins having a doctor like Iris Shai, RD, PhD, show that a low-carbohydrate diet like Atkins had a more favorable effect on blood lipid levels than both the Mediterranean diet or a low–fat diet.

Obviously she must be right, she is a doctor and other doctors support her. So this must mean all the other doctors and diets are wrong, including this one, right?

I'm calling this *propaganda, sorry.

Sesame Street: Cripple Creek

14 year old girl schools ignorant tv host

chingalera says...

@Sotto_The issue is the power and influence one corporation has over the world's food supply and those who would use their influence in the Department of Agriculture and the Supreme court to implement sweeping legislation or hinder the free will of the small, medium, large or other farmers who would have nothing to do with Monsanto's seeds or who wish only to use sumbunall of their products, not whether a farmer is given their rice for free in an ethical fashion to grow some proprietary rice (ever try to grow rice? S'pretty dependent on climate and seasons, rainfall and other environmental conditions, not to mention the hectares it requires to cultivate) as opposed to say leafy greens of all kinds, sweet potatoes, squash, all of which are much more easily cultivated AND, have shorter seed to fruit times as well as requiring much less space AND, are chock-full of Vitamin A.
We don't even mention here Paprika, Red Pepper, Cayenne, Chili Powder, which are WAY higher in Vitamin A and pretty much grow like weeds when cultivated by morons.

Shaky and hollow point your study cited as well, to support what is obviously a fishy prospect providing this option to poorer countries when you consider the back-door dealing that a corporation like M practices and their track-record of driving small farmers out of business with endless litigation and an army of lah-yahs, investigators, all petty thugs and criminals on their payroll.

A no-brainer? Yeah, if you spout the party-line and din't use your brain but instead cited an "official' study from a 'recognized', 'expert's' journal.

Again, loaded language in your closing with the assumption that most opponents and vocal activists of GMO crops are science deniers. Broad, brush-strokes my friend.
Labels.

I for one want these motherfucker's labs under extreme scrutiny and their science tested and re-tested by those not on their payrolls or whose interests do not include stocks in their concerns. I also want heirloom seeds, regardless of yields, whose fruits produce fertile seeds.

MOST GMO crop's fruited seeds are as sterile as your argument, the genetic markers tweaked similarly to insure that the market on common-sense and centuries-honored methods be cornered and rendered inadequate.

YAMS !!

farther/further (Blog Entry by jwray)

dystopianfuturetoday says...

>> ^jwray:
>> ^dystopianfuturetoday:
Same could be said for yams and sweet potatoes, yet they are from two separate plants

Yes, but the difference is that words are interchangeable, while there are grammar rules for farther and further. I wouldn't mind if people used further exclusively though, because "he walked further" sounds OK but "farthermore" sounds terrible.


I wuz being stoopid.

farther/further (Blog Entry by jwray)

jwray says...

>> ^dystopianfuturetoday:
Same could be said for yams and sweet potatoes, yet they are from two separate plants


Yes, but the difference is that words are interchangeable, while there are grammar rules for farther and further. I wouldn't mind if people used further exclusively though, because "he walked further" sounds OK but "farthermore" sounds terrible.

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Cats have epic 3-way steak battle

Payback says...

Pfft, they are tenderizing the steak. They plan to sear it over a low flame, add some leafy greens, a diced carrot, some sweet potatoes, then serve it with a decent red with a nice nose, maybe a Californian from 1984. Then they'll get a nice little nap in, because if they don't get at least 18 hours of sleep a day, they won't have enough energy for their big snooze.

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dystopianfuturetoday says...

I'm thinking of trying this recipe for Thanksgiving. What do you think?

Roasted Japanese Sweet Potatoes with Scallion Butter
Serves8

* Active time:10 min
* Start to finish:1 1/4 hr

November 2007
If you’ve never had pale-fleshed Japanese sweet potatoes before, you’ll be surprised by their subtler, drier flesh, which tastes unmistakably of chestnut. A bit of miso mixed into the scallion butter stealthily rounds out the interplay of sweet and umami that will have you eating all the way through to the last flaky remnants of skin.

* 8 small slender Japanese or Garnet sweet potatoes (4 to 5 lb total)
* 1 1/2 sticks unsalted butter, well softened
* 1 1/2 tablespoons miso paste (preferably white)
* 3 tablespoons finely chopped scallion

* Preheat oven to 450°F with rack in upper third.
* Prick potatoes all over with a fork and put on a foil-lined large baking sheet. Bake until very soft when squeezed, 45 minutes to 1 hour.
* While potatoes bake, stir together butter, miso, and scallion until combined.
* Slit hot potatoes lengthwise and, using oven mitts, push in sides to puff up potato. Serve with some scallion butter in center of each and with additional scallion butter on the side.

Cooks’ notes:

* Scallion butter can be made 4 days ahead and chilled, covered. Bring to warm room temperature and stir before using.
* Sweet potatoes can be roasted (but not cut) 4 hours ahead and kept at room temperature, covered with foil. Reheat potatoes on a baking sheet on middle rack of a 350°F oven until heated through, about 20 minutes.

Recipe by Lillian Chou

I found it on this site ---> http://www.gourmet.com/recipes/2000s/2007/11/roasted-japanese-sweet-potatoes

Obama: I Like Pie. You Like Pie Too?

NetRunner says...

This was more serious than I expected.

I saw a 1sttube clip on some channel where Obama went on for a couple minutes about Sweet Potato Pie.

Can we have some pie now? Yes We Can.

Obama: The Pie we need.

Obama/Pieden '08!

No one can stop a million voices calling for PIE!

POCKY!!!!!!!! G!!!!!

Japanese Pizza Commerical - La Pizza

legacy0100 says...

asian pizza focuses on toppings more than anything. You know how japanese girls like to accessorize. Well, toppings are kind of the same. No matter how thin the dough gets, they keep on adding more toppings. I've seen a pizza with 9 different toppings once, and there were no onions, mushrooms and olives like what we got at the States.

Sweet potato pizza wasn't that bad either.

And my god, Bob is becoming the new Arnold of Japan: http://www.videosift.com/video/Arnold-Schwarzenegger-Japanese-Ad#leavecomment



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