Whataboutism...the refuge of the desperate.

As far as I know, neither visited the island, but Trump is more likely to have based on their respective relationships. Clinton rode in Epstein's plane a few times, Trump rode in Epstein's plane a few times, partied with him for decades during his pedophilia spree, hosted multiple parties for Epstein including those attended only by Trump, Epstein, and underage girls, and Epstein had 14 phone numbers for Trump.

Clinton has not been accused of any specific sexual misconduct connected to Epstein. As for Trump: During the 2016 campaign, Trump was sued by an anonymous woman who claimed he raped her at an Epstein party when she was 13 years old among various other accusations of sexual assault now numbering >25. However, several journalists who dug into this allegation back then came away voicing caution or downright skepticism, and the accuser withdrew her lawsuit shortly before the election.

So there hasn’t yet been corroboration of Epstein-related wrongdoing on Trump’s part by media outlets, or any accusation against Clinton at all.

Lol....He only finally kicked him out in 2011, >4 years after he pleaded guilty to multiple child rapes and being accused of dozens upon dozens of others, and we now know his abuses never stopped....but that didn't bother or surprise Trump one bit until >4 years later when Epstein started being publicly accused of recruiting multiple young girls at Maralago to be sex slaves while he was visiting Trump and assaulting them on the premises. Did you even read what you linked?! Holy crap!

Cops would have been 100% justified in shooting gelman at any point after he started swinging his knife towards the narrator and before the narrator disarmed him.. Or at least kicking the shit out of him as necessary to stop his killing spree. Due process is for after the perp has been apprehended.

Um...this ended his 28 hour long stabbing spree, the reason the cops were there and why they recognized him.....sounds like "something stupid"and illegal to me, as did pulling the knife and stabbing people right in front of them, which they continued to just watch until citizens detained and disarmed him, and only then did they take him away, ignoring the mortal wounds he caused to those citizens, so they were not correct at all, he was a known armed public threat that they didn't even warn others about, they just cowered behind the door out of fear of a non existent gun, then offered no assistance to the man that just did their job....and took credit for it....sorry.
I think you need to watch again, assuming you watched at all, you missed literally everything.

@MilkmanDan, let's say he didn't have a bump stock. Do you think it would have meaningfully affected this tragedy?

If he had killed 10% fewer people (while it would obviously have been better for those people and their families), this would still have been the deadliest mass shooting in the US.

Basically, my argument is that plenty of people have managed to go on mass shooting sprees without bump stocks, and banning them won't stop the next mass shooting.

It's kinda like banning texting while drunk driving. Sure, you really shouldn't do it, but it's not the main problem!

Father of one of the (injured) victims on NPR, when interviewed, took the time to point out he was and will continue to be a 2nd amendment zealot (for there's no other word for these people). He gave a thoughtful comment that one man had affected thousands of lives with his shooting spree. When the interviewer asked the father what he thought about one man having such (fire) power readily available TO ENABLE him to affect so many lives, the father had no response.

I watched the movie only about 10 or so years ago. But I clearly remember thinking to myself it was the funniest movie ever at the time... and then I went on a sort of classic comedy watching spree with the Naked Guns & Police Academies & Monty Python.... the latter series really tickled me pink... and are regular YouTube clips rewatch... My wife doesn't get Monty though.

My memory of the original movie is that it was that there was about 5 minutes of the characters philosophizing on the difficulty of self-identity in a cyber world amid an hour and a half of sexy sci-fi robot murder sprees. I think they can match that.

After seeing Batman VR, I decided that after years of slumber, it was time to make a return!

Since I've been back, I've discovered a few things have changed during my absence. Such as how my "Dead" sprees can be seen in the "newest comments" and how the "embed code" replace had gone somewhere that I could only guess is reserved for the "Deadpool."

That said though, I do want to try my luck again here on videosift and see if I can catch up on old times. So fair forewarning to anyone ranked 1-69 (I'm shocked I'm at Rank 70 after all this time), if I start to get bored one of these days, you might get a couple of emails from Siftbot saying how a good chunk of your videos had died.

I like to think that I "Inspired" the "Grim Reaper" badge. But yeah... It is time to see if I can crack Top 50 and get to a rating over 1000!

LET THE GOOD TIMES ROLL!

"It's been one culture that's been blowing shit up over and over again"

Americans?

This is really fucking reprehensible on Mahers part. He's an American and an atheist. See how quickly he takes responsibility for drone strikes, wire-tapping, dropping atomic bombs on civilians. How about the Stalinist purges?

Know what he'd say? I don't support that (except maybe the drone strikes, because fuck brown people, amirite?). I'm not part of that.

SO WHY THE FUCK ARE YOU PUTTING 9/11 ON A FUCKING KID WHO PROBABLY WASN'T EVEN BORN?

Hey, ya know what? Maybe we should be careful. Maybe we should treat the kind of people who commit mass killings in the US with a degree of caution. So let's start with locking up the white males, 'cos those motherfuckers seem to go on shooting sprees with depressing regularity.

Ugh, seriously, fuck Maher. That was fucking disgusting to watch.

Not a downvote spree, I watch these videos on other sites and come here and see them after already watching them and I vote on them, call it what you want but I have viewed the video and voted accordingly. So if it seems that boneremake downvoted a video and twenty seconds later another, your sure to saint judith's titties I have watched them and I am expressing my voting abilities to their extent.

I apologize when I mean it, people saying sorry over stupid little trivial shit like that is not my style, your feelings are not my concern, they are a your problem not a my problem. Yes I am an asshole and my words are blabbering of a jack ass, totally well aware of that.

You auta try out reddit.com, my account goes from -80 downvotes to +220 in a couple hours. One lil vote down your submission of a video someone else made shouldn't be much of a concern to you, yet it always seems to be.

What does that mean...turnabout is fair play?

As for the nutcase depicted, did the cops have information that he was trying to commit suicide-by-cop? Or did they just have information that he was the suspect in a crime spree including a home invasion, the theft of a gun and the discharge of same in a public place?

If he was walking toward some people with a gun and what the cops believe to be criminal intent or being out of control with the gun, then they are justified in using lethal force to stop him and protect innocent lives.

I don't know too many people who would be willing to just approach the guy and give him a pamphlet of mental health resources in the county.

On the other hand, we did have a dispatcher who would have offered to give him a hug.

happy birthday, @siftbot

here's your card.
seems like yesterday you got your gold star.
our juvenile spree on your comments was fun,
but don't worry - you earned every upvote a hundredfold.

you're a whole lot of *quality, and just the right sprinkling of *wtf

love,
the meatbags

Thanks

I've been on a bit of a Gogol Bordello watching spree too I love the Gypsy Jazz anyway, and these guys are just great. Unfortunately quite a few had gone dead

I really wish KnivesOut wasn't banned. He was already hobbled (rightly so). So he didn't pose any further "threat" to the sift. It's not the first time someone has attempted "Sifticide" by going on a kill spree on their way out the door, and I'm really glad Eric caught it and put the breaks on it. Maybe the guy was just having a really shit day and fucked up. In the end though, he wasn't trying to fuck with other people or other member's sifts. Just a bit of rage quit. Might have felt different about it the next day and apologized. Then gotten unhobbled and moved on. Now he can't do that.

so you agree with me yet still downvote my comment?
i thought i was being respectful by explaining my downvote,something i am under zero compulsion to do,at all.

and yet you go off on a childish tantrum and systematically downvote about 3 hours of content in my pque...in FIVE minutes! which can lead me to only one conclusion:
emotional reflex response to a negative analysis to a useless and irrelevant video you posted.

you do not understand why this is irrelevant?
i have to admit a certain embarrassment for you that i have to point this out,but ok,take my hand and i will walk you through it so you can better understand:

1.air contains oxygen
2.water is wet
3.everybody poops
4.politicians and governments lie

you had an opportunity here to reveal just how convoluted and deceptive the process had been perverted and corrupted.how back door deals and the greased palms of certain politicians helped fascillitate the passing of obamacare.

how big pharma and the health insurance industry spent 300 million in the first week alone to kill this bill.or how those very same politicians allowed a tax on that health care bill to remain in the bill.

you could have added context to what really transpired and the mafia principle was in full effect.government gets their slice and the health industry continues to be allowed to plunder the american people treasure.

but no.
you posted a 53 second video of a politician caught in a moment of truth.
a truth WE ALREADY KNOW,with the sole purpose of "look!see! governments are bad!

no context.
no backstory.
no nuanced information to give people a clearer picture on just how badly we are all being fucked.
just a 53 second prop so you can get on your soapbox.

so yeah..the video is irrelevant.

unless of course...you think everybody around you is a stupid child and needs you to hold their hands to reveal the underlying truth.if that is the case you have failed miserably.

well,i dont need you to hold my hand.i am quite capable of coming to my own conclusions.

i am becoming quite tired of your temper tantrums.so if my words have angered your tender sensibilities then feel free to go on another targeted downvoting spree..i really dont care.

@blankfist is a die hard libertarian.thoughtful and precise in his arguments (sans the farting cats),and you sir..are no blankfist.