Not as terrible as the usual EIT fare. I mean, sure the acting was bad, but the type of social engineering shown here is real.

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I actually agree with both of you.

Canada's example absolutely shows how horrific something like this can be. It is easily one of the most embarrassing and sad pieces of Canadian history - something other countries would do well to avoid.

That said, it is despicable on the part of the Roma to not allow their children (particularly girls) to attend schools and join in wider human society. This is one of the many reasons the UN sanctioned NATO to remove the Taliban in Afghanistan - to provide people the freedom of having an education regardless of their gender, social status, religion, etc. People worldwide need to stop blaming "ancient culture" for their idiotic decisions.

>> ^therealblankman:

Just look to Canada to see how well boarding schools work as a social engineering tool used to integrate minorities into the dominant culture. We've lost multiple generations and whole families of indigenous peoples to these policies. I'm sure it'll work just as well in Slovakia.


>> ^EMPIRE:

that's not the problem. they could build all the schools they wanted, that doesn't mean their parents would let or make them attend. they actively avoid becoming a part of so called mainstream society, because of their fucking ignorant traditions.
It's a very touchy subject because Roma are definitely treated as outcasts, but they make themselves into outcasts as well. It's a vicious circle that needs to be permanently destroyed.
For example gypsies here my country wouldn't even let their girls attend school. That's absolutely NOT acceptable in a civilized nation. And when you're a lousy parent, with the excuse of a very shitty ancient culture or not, the government comes and tries to do better than you.

Just look to Canada to see how well boarding schools work as a social engineering tool used to integrate minorities into the dominant culture. We've lost multiple generations and whole families of indigenous peoples to these policies. I'm sure it'll work just as well in Slovakia.

@dystopianfuturetoday. Because government gives corporations legitimacy.

Government is force and uses that force to socially engineer what happens in the State. Corporations are created by government, and use government/corporate collusion to shrink the market so there's less competition. Without competition, the corporations become the only source of services and goods and therefore are the major supplier of employment.

A decent example would be big pharma where it costs usually somewhere between 4 to 6 million to have a drug pass FDA approval. This would close out scientists like Jonas Salk who invent vaccines and give them to the masses without patenting them, and brilliant minds like Salk would be forced to work for places like Pfizer. This is all because of government intervention that emboldens corporations.

Actually this is a conversation that would require more than a couple keystrokes to properly flesh out. A messageboard isn't the place.

>> ^rougy:
Our government is corrupt and ineffectual. Our military is bloated and not really ours as a nation but "ours" in the multi-national corporate sense. If you have no money, you have no justice. A fraction of a percentage of people are allowed to get rich, and everybody else has to fight it out and claw their way through life just to stay alive. Financiers like Goldman Sachs and J.P. Morgan make a living out of figuring out ever better ways to fuck people over and get a slap on the wrist when they're caught, if that. We torture people. We murder innocents overseas for the sake of convenience. We overthrow governments that we don't like, that won't march to our tune, and call it spreading democracy.
Worst of all, nobody here knows anything. We have to be some of the dumbest people on earth, especially in regards to what's being done overseas on our name.
And I'm supposed to swear my blind, undying allegiance to that? I'm supposed to point to Mexico and exclaim proudly "Things could be worse!"


You forgot to mention how you continuously vote for people who believe in continuing all of those things, either directly or through policies that enable it. And then you spend the rest of your time trying to convince everyone that the problem is we're not all registered Democrats. The real problem is that we allow people to vote on things they shouldn't. The constitution sealed its fate with the general welfare clause.

When America defaults on its debt, it will be because the constitution failed to prevent idiots from trying to steal from each other or borrow money that they would benefit from, but that future generations would have to pay. Because it failed to ban the public sector from voting in elections. Because it failed to prevent a central bank from price fixing interest rates and monopolizing the money supply with unbacked paper they can print for themselves while we work to obtain it and watch it's scarcity/value siphoned. It is so much easier to just print more money and redirect its value than appropriate the money itself. Whatever you think you got out of this is crumbs compared to government employees and politically connected companies.

People like you are constantly fooled into enabling what you despise. Government destroys free market self-regulation and then claims lack of regulation is the problem. They loan banks money well below realistic interest rates. They insure every bank's deposits so banks don't have to compete on the safety of those deposits. GSEs like FM&FM implicitly backed subprime and so everyone thought that was a riskless bet as well. The tax code encouraged flipping property over real investment by making certain home sales completely exempt from capital gains. You may as well dump candy into a busy intersection and blame people for getting hit by passing cars. And instead of stopping the candy dumpage, your solution is to borrow even more money from China at interest to hire 10,000 full-time crossing guards. That is how insane the socialist rhetoric has gotten. When their social engineering fails, the problem isn't something they did, but something else they didn't do. Well, it's only going to last until China realizes that dollars are no asset, no product placeholder, when you're accumulating them in perpetuity.

It was almost 6 months ago; maybe it's time you moved on.
>> ^blankfist:
Looks like someone has a pet social-engineering project he wants to see put into practice. The god complex is a powerful thing.

Looks like someone has a pet social-engineering project he wants to see put into practice. The god complex is a powerful thing.

@NetRunner. I'm not sure what you base your arguments on, but I've already admitted I think these pro-social messages are insidious. Teamwork is fine, if that's all the cartoons were showing, but to me this sounds more like social engineering than anything else, but I never said I had evidence for it. I just juxtaposed his comments with a personal anecdote about Sundance I thought was similar in its devious nature to shape the opinions of large groups through entertainment. I think to an average person they'd seem comparative, so I'm not sure what you're going on and on about if not to just stretch out an already belabored discussion about nothing at this point.

I bet you wish you played that evidence card before you made this comment, huh? You're adorable.

@NetRunner. Does the Watchmen even have a moral to teach? Sure, it's political, but a moral? Who cares either way, I suppose.

The fundamental difference is within the agenda of an interest group aimed at social engineering children vs. an author writing a political narrative. You seem to think somehow I'm trying to censor people or trying to enact a law to combat them, which is simply not the case, and quite frankly a pedestrian effort at a smear. I thought Mark Evanier's blog entry above was interesting and worth continuing the exposition, so I did because the nature of interest groups trying to secretly influence children is insidious and worthy of note, in my opinion.

It's not that it's solely aimed at kids; it's because of the hidden agenda to socially engineer us through repetitive indoctrination. Repetition is how children learn, and it's irresponsible of them to decide what subversive lesson to secretly teach children. If every Saturday morning cartoon taught children to go with the pack, be sheep and not question voices of concert, then think about the indoctrination they then reap upon their minds when they go to public school. We were taught American history as a historical triumph with clinical distance to the shameful parts of it. We were told to stand and cover our hearts for the pledge of allegiance. The presidents of the US were shown to us as nearly godlike champions in which we were to enshrine with our craft paper and glue. I still remember my President Lincoln log cabin I made from paper that had a silhouette of him in the door. We were all forced to make that, by the way. That wasn't something I chose.

That's the issue I take. The one-size-fits-all indoctrination of how to be an uber-citizen by doing what the group tells you is right. This is a horrible message to teach children. This has nothing to do with harmless teamwork and trying to be social and getting along with others. It's about being a cog. That's the issue I take. Clear enough?

Sigh. Really? Just because they can do it doesn't mean I have to like it. I am making a point to be persuasive, not begging Congress to make a law. Missed the point.

The message of Watchmen can hardly be considered "indoctrination". There are no special interest groups trying to social engineer your children through the Watchmen. Missed the point again.

I didn't say it was a dastardly communist plot, did I? Parents can pay attention to their kids all they want, and they should, but I don't need "parent groups" lobbying stations to propagandized cartoons for social engineering.

There are people out there who would like to see the world engineered in a way that makes them comfortable.

If one uses Canadian TV as the antithesis of the programming tactics discussed above as a litmus for the effects on crimes in a country's population, well, one can see what causes the crime. Network programming is a crime in most countries...called mind control...social engineering-designed for the subjugation and enslavement of the masses O, Canada! If only you were not so FORKKING COLD!!!!

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1. The condition of being double; duality.
2. (Philosophy) The view that the (political) world consists of or is explicable as two fundamental entities, such as mind and matter.

lullaby_lune we can also thank everyone who posts viddies whose inclination hinges upon the 2nd definition pasted above. The inanae addiction to politics in the U.S. has consistently eroded the quality of this site, and continues to do so with a fervor Joseph Goebbels would have been proud to call his own!

The television has been for 40+ years, co-opted by worthless examples of human garbage as the premier social engineering codpiece for inebriated monkeys to stare at, fondle and adjust, using the same mindless banter to be found on all 37648 channels of available mental junk food.

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>> ^gwiz665:
I think you are twisting my words.


No. Your words were "make better society". As in "let us social engineer society the way we want it." And then you thumped your chest with your continental pride of Europe.

My point was if you don't want to eat in a restaurant that has a mandatory tip for parties over a described number, then don't visit it. You have options; don't be so arrogant. A small business cannot levy a tax. I don't know where you're getting this bad information. They can only add charges. I wish my ass had lips like yours.