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Mom arrested after posing as 7th grade daughter in school

BSR says...

First, she wouldn't need to break into the mall for obvious reasons unless the mall was locked up in which case her daughter or anyone else wouldn't be in there to begin with. The mall is a public venue so a disguise wouldn't be necessary. Usually visiting friends homes and/or sleepovers would not require a disguise either.

It's just speculation on your part where mom lets her child hang out and what safety precautions the child might take before and while visiting those places.

However, schools are becoming more secure in light of school shootings but more needs to be done and this was the point she was making. She was able to bypass the lax security at the school and was willing to pay the price for putting it to the test.

She wasn't there to kill anyone, just the poor security measures. If anything the school board or whoever should be fined.

This was not about her having "the right" to do what she did. She knew she didn't have "the right" but she did have the guts and a plan to expose the hole in the dam. Do you think a school shooter gives a shit about their rights to be in a school?

With my job I've picked up a few children on crime scenes that have been shot or stabbed to death and it's the hardest thing to witness and live with.

I hope you are able to refocus your priorities.

jimnms said:

I'm willing to bet she lets her daughter go hang out with friends at the mall or other places, go to friends houses for the day or sleepovers. Does that giver her the right to break into those places to test security there too?

Mom arrested after posing as 7th grade daughter in school

jimnms says...

I'm willing to bet she lets her daughter go hang out with friends at the mall or other places, go to friends houses for the day or sleepovers. Does that giver her the right to break into those places to test security there too?

Neil deGrasse Tyson explains meaning of life to 6 year old

kceaton1 says...

/off-topic & longish

I'm not trying to belittle you or anything, so please don't misinterpret the things I'm about to talk about. Regarding your supernatural experiences (which to be perfectly honest IF they do exist, and that is a big if) there are a few problems with them or rather that type of "belief". If it really did happen to you, then it wouldn't be very hard to see why you would believe in religion or be spiritual in a very strong sense of the word (though it depends I suppose on just what you experienced, or what "they" experience).

But, if your faith can be helped along by these type of events, then it would be the type of thing that science should be exploring. I know people will clearly state that you just "can't catch these events", but to be honest, if your body is able to see, hear, smell, or sense it...any number of scientific tests could as well. But, the problem is: when do they happen, how do they happen (by what mechanism, i.e. sound, smell, sight, etc...), and to whom will it occur (and even where will it occur might be a justified question too).

Eventually this should become something, even if on the "fringe" of science or rational belief, should become a real talking point...recognized by all. Simply because, eventually scientists must experience them too, or those with no faith or belief at all...

But, this is why I ask what kind of "event" did you experience?

I suffer from Narcolepsy. With this, I suffer nightly from huge attacks (around 3-15) sleep paralysis events. These events come in ALL sorts of flavors, and since it is from Narcolepsy it doesn't necessarily have to happen at night--like ghosts, or alien abductions (I mean, is it not a good question to wonder why these things almost always happen at night--oh, and the animals don't seem to be involved too much in this stuff for some reason as well). I also (and this is the real winner right here) suffer from, more or less, permanent bouts of hypnagogic hallucinations (typically they happen just as you are about to fall asleep or as you are waking up--with me, they can occur as soon as I'm getting tired). I also have severe Sleep Apnea, just to make all of this more "grandiose"...

Sleep Paralysis is something that was reported constantly even in the Middle Ages; a great painting named "The Nightmare" depicts someone that is actually going through one of these events. This is the actual foundation for succubi, demons, and even angels that visit people in their sleep--these people will feel unbelievable things, things you simply do NOT feel in normal day life...thus many believe a supernatural event has just occurred. The first one I had was when I was just waking up, for some reason I was petrified, couldn't move (and barely breath). Then I looked around my room. It was early morning so I could see in my room, in the corner of my room sat a dark humanoid "solid" shadow. From it emanated a feeling of pure, utter evil (which is were you get a supernatural feeling to this; because for one you do not see "humanoid shadows", nor is it possible to "feel" evil). Eventually I snapped myself out of it and later woke up. It left a stark impression upon me. Later my mind figured out somehow that if I relaxed in these moments, it ended immediately--meaning that I started o become somewhat lucid during the majority of these. I remember my friends and family always saying I was weird or that I scared them sometimes, because I would sleep with my eyes opened--well, this is part of that problem (like I said, I could see my room...everything seemed for the most part, real; it's like being awake and partially asleep--in a dream--at the same time).

Onto my real problem: Hypnagogic Hallucinations. I have no doubt whatsoever that EVERYONE that believes or rather has experienced ghosts/haunting(s), alien abductions, angels, demons, people yelling outside, dogs barking, your phone ringing when it hasn't, and "you name it, because EVERYTHING can happen in this category"... I suffer from this so much that the things I experience now are just a joke to me. Things grabbing me, my body changing shape (and YES you do "feel" the change), all manner of sounds (which is the most annoying; sometimes it sounds like someone has called my name...so I have to go check, it's very frustrating). Then combine this WITH a Sleep Paralysis event (and trust me, it does happen, but it it rare), you get an epic "light show".

So, this is why I asked you what type of supernatural event did you experience. Because, you may want to remember (this is JUST some things Narcolepsy can cause; other medical issues, medications, etc... can cause the same issues if not worse, more pronounced in certain ways and even causing certain changes in behavior, sensations, and feelings) that just with Narcolepsy I run into these issues--sleeping disorders are possibly responsible for a LARGE assortment of the "supernatural" issues you see out there. Then add in the countless number of other things that also affect our bodies and it isn't far fetched to soon realize that you just may have to hold onto what science has proven--only--or you may get lost.

I cannot say that this is you. I will not either. I don't pretend to know your experiences. But, I can share mine... The first Sleep Paralysis and or Hypnagogic Hallucination (as I have been able to move in a few Sleep Paralysis events...but very rarely; if I can though I move slowly) event I had, believe it or not, was when I was around 8 or 9. I imagined that I woke up in the night, turned and looked under my bed (it was a sleepover, so I was on the floor that night) and I saw a pair of red glowing lights, shaped vaguely like eyes looking at me. I kept looking at it, trying to figure out what it was, but very quickly it "blinked" and I knew it was alive. I was scared enough that I simply turned my back from it and tried to go back to sleep. The fact that I simply just turned my back to it and went back to sleep...is proof that it simply wasn't even real.

Had that BEEN real, I would've jumped up, flipped the light on; told everyone in the room and gotten my parents in the next room... But, it felt extremely real. Even to this day, the only thing that makes me realize it was fake was HOW I handled the situation...that is it. In fact that is usually the best way to tell reality apart from a dream (or hallucinations caused by enhanced REM cycles--REM cycles that start even while you are awake). You simply do not act like yourself in a dream, period.

I'll agree with you otherwise. I was definitely smothered by religion and it "stunted" me. It didn't cause me to hate it as much as many might think, but I became extremely wary of anything to do with it.

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I guess that cunt gettin eaten

berticus says...

Does what?

>> ^Yogi:

>> ^berticus:
"Azealia Banks was born in 1991. Her mother raised Banks and her two older sisters in Harlem after their father died when she was two years old. At a young age she became interested in musical theater, acting, and singing. At age 10, she began performing in off-Broadway musicals with the Tada! Youth Theater in Lower Manhattan. She won lead roles in three productions (Rabbit Sense, Sleepover, and Heroes) in addition to performing as a soloist. Banks was classically trained in the performing arts at the renowned LaGuardia High School of Performing Arts in Manhattan, the same school Nicki Minaj attended. At age 16 she starred in a production of the comedy-noir musical City of Angels. Banks never finished high school, however, instead choosing to follow her dream of becoming a recording artist."
I would say so, yeah.
>> ^Hybrid:
Her parents must be so proud.


Good for her. I think it's sad that in order to be really successful...she does this. Oh well.

I guess that cunt gettin eaten

Yogi says...

>> ^berticus:

"Azealia Banks was born in 1991. Her mother raised Banks and her two older sisters in Harlem after their father died when she was two years old. At a young age she became interested in musical theater, acting, and singing. At age 10, she began performing in off-Broadway musicals with the Tada! Youth Theater in Lower Manhattan. She won lead roles in three productions (Rabbit Sense, Sleepover, and Heroes) in addition to performing as a soloist. Banks was classically trained in the performing arts at the renowned LaGuardia High School of Performing Arts in Manhattan, the same school Nicki Minaj attended. At age 16 she starred in a production of the comedy-noir musical City of Angels. Banks never finished high school, however, instead choosing to follow her dream of becoming a recording artist."
I would say so, yeah.
>> ^Hybrid:
Her parents must be so proud.



Good for her. I think it's sad that in order to be really successful...she does this. Oh well.

I guess that cunt gettin eaten

berticus says...

"Azealia Banks was born in 1991. Her mother raised Banks and her two older sisters in Harlem after their father died when she was two years old. At a young age she became interested in musical theater, acting, and singing. At age 10, she began performing in off-Broadway musicals with the Tada! Youth Theater in Lower Manhattan. She won lead roles in three productions (Rabbit Sense, Sleepover, and Heroes) in addition to performing as a soloist. Banks was classically trained in the performing arts at the renowned LaGuardia High School of Performing Arts in Manhattan, the same school Nicki Minaj attended. At age 16 she starred in a production of the comedy-noir musical City of Angels. Banks never finished high school, however, instead choosing to follow her dream of becoming a recording artist."

I would say so, yeah.

>> ^Hybrid:

Her parents must be so proud.

Are your friends staying for breakfast?

Gratefulmom (Member Profile)

Michael Jackson confronted about his cosmetic surgery

13150 says...

Honestly, if all he's ever done with those kids is innocent, he is the most naive person in the world NOT to understand why it isn't "ignorant" for people to be freaked the fuck out by his sleepovers.

That said, he SOUNDS as if he has had some serious psychological trauma, but whether that simply has given him no conscience whatsoever or whether it has left him with a near-childlike mindset, only those kids who have had to sleep with him know for sure.

The Stephen Colbert Objectivist Children's Sleepover

volumptuous says...

>> ^quantumushroom:
The people that hate Ayn Rand mistake these two idiots for real news.


How could anyone hate that poor girl, trapped in secret rooms all day, hiding from the Nazi's.

I haven't read her book tho, but I'm glad these two fine news gentlemen did a segment on her tonight!

thepinky (Member Profile)

chilaxe says...

Thanks for your thoughts.

In reply to this comment by thepinky:
I'm not actually studying literature but English, which of course is very similar. I was not about to get involved in that discussion. For one thing, I don't know enough about Ayn Rand. For another, if I get involved I am just going to waste hours and hours reading up on the subjects at hand (that part would be worthwhile) and then writing a response that is too long, too passionate, and gets flamed or ignored, anyway. At least, that's the pattern I've seen in the past. I read a little bit of what you wrote, though, and I agree with you as far as my knowledge of objectivism and postmodernism goes.

In reply to this comment by chilaxe:
Am I remembering correctly that you're studying literature? If you have any thoughts, I'd be interested in hearing them.

http://www.videosift.com/video/The-Stephen-Colbert-Objectivist-Children-s-Sleepover#comment-597743

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chilaxe (Member Profile)

thepinky says...

I'm not actually studying literature but English, which of course is very similar. I was not about to get involved in that discussion. For one thing, I don't know enough about Ayn Rand. For another, if I get involved I am just going to waste hours and hours reading up on the subjects at hand (that part would be worthwhile) and then writing a response that is too long, too passionate, and gets flamed or ignored, anyway. At least, that's the pattern I've seen in the past. I read a little bit of what you wrote, though, and I agree with you as far as my knowledge of objectivism and postmodernism goes.

In reply to this comment by chilaxe:
Am I remembering correctly that you're studying literature? If you have any thoughts, I'd be interested in hearing them.

http://www.videosift.com/video/The-Stephen-Colbert-Objectivist-Children-s-Sleepover#comment-597743

The Stephen Colbert Objectivist Children's Sleepover

Crake says...

>> ^chilaxe:
>> ^MINK:

(Please share your thoughts, anybody.)...


I, for one, totally agree. Academia moves forward at glacier speed (remember? glaciers?), and the vaguer the field, the slower the progress.
No one asks the humanities to make any progress, because no outsiders know exactly what it is they're supposed to do - not many insiders either.

I'm almost done with my BA, and I still don't know.



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