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ART OF SEDUCTION: Not Pretty, Really

snoozedoctor says...

It doesn't particular move me when people complain of good fortune. "Gee, people love me for my money", "I wish people wouldn't idolize me because I'm Steve Nash, and the best basketball player in the world" kind of thing.

The tragedy is when people who have used their "attractiveness" all their life, to get where they are, finally age and loose that appeal. Many have their self-worth rapped up in appearance, hence the popularity of plastic surgery.

Reveal the Meaning of Your Username, Sifters (Sift Talk Post)

dag says...

Comment hidden because you are ignoring dag. (show it anyway)

I used to go by the longer name "dag maggot". It was one of the first interesting things I learned on my immigration to Australia.

A "dag maggot" is a maggot that infests the caked on feces on a sheep's behind. Really quite a lovely image - and perhaps a statement on my self-worth? I don't know - but I liked the alliteration of the phrase and the similarity to "dag nabbit".

My wife often calls me a dag- as it's colloquial slang here for someone who in not stylish and kind of rough around the edges. The name stuck like ... well, it just stuck.

Guy Ransoms Himself For 200 Bucks

Very Hungry Kitten (You will suffer a massive cute attack)

MINK says...

ad hom? wtf?

i am saying there is a little bit of shit in all videos on the internet so someone is bound to notice that, which explains why there can be 340857032485 people that like something and there can still be 1 who doesn't.

It's normal, it's the world. Nothing ad hom, that's the last thing i was trying to say, karaidl is one of my favourite sifters, in fact that's the only reason i watched this.

you don't want people criticising your choice of video, but you post them here? that's weird.

otters holding hands: ultra cute. never seen it before. upvote.
kitten eating: cute. seen it a million times. downvote. ffs it's just eating.

ooooh people like kittens more than my downvotes, oh no, i can feel my self worth as a sifter fading.

Very Hungry Kitten (You will suffer a massive cute attack)

Dugg again (Sift Talk Post)

Dugg again (Sift Talk Post)

J-Rova says...

thanks dag, my feelings of self-worth are through the roof now... I didn't realize it got transferred over to digg. However, my apologies for contributing to the boggignation of VS. I'll try to find less funny stuff to post in the future (counterproductive?) ...well maybe not. Some of the comments people left about it are as funny as the video itself.

Modern Aspirational TV

colinr says...

Fantastic! It is about time television gets out of this 'aspirational' phase. I actually don't mind the rubbish like Friends, The OC and Desperate Housewives - that is just dreck. The programmes I cannot stand are the ones that are more 'in your face' - the 'What Not To Wear' girls as if normal people should really be so concerned about people treating them badly because of their clothes! Would you ever really want to get to know someone better if you knew that they wouldn't have talked to you the first time you met if you'd been wearing some poor fitting or poorly chosen clothes? I wouldn't and in fact finding out that someone made those kind of petty judgements would be the thing that would lead me to conclude I couldn't be friends with, or have a relationship with, that person myself!

The worst example of this is that 'Ten Years Younger' show that takes a normal looking middle aged woman, shows her picture to various passersby on the streets who comment on how ugly and old she looks, then takes her off for clothes, hair, tanning and dental treatments and plastic surgery to try to prove to these various nobodies who gave callous opinions about the woman that she can look as attractive as they seem to want her to be. This all ends with (different) passersby being shown a picture of the 'new and improved' woman and - what a surprise! - they all think she looks younger! Of course she does, leaving aside selective editing that only shows passersby who think the woman looks younger she now has a plastic face, immovable because of all the botox they've pumped into it and is wearing clothes that would look slutty on a 16 year old! Congratulations you don't look your age any more, you look like every other person who's had plastic surgery - whatever happened to growing old gracefully? The fact that this show says more about the pushiness of the presenters and so called experts and the lack of self-worth of the various women somehow never seems to be brought up!

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Documentary by 17 yr old recreates the "doll test" from 50s (skip to 3:20)

joedirt says...

good point voice, though I do take issue with major socialization influences coming from family. Sure that's a huge part, but sadly I think there may be a greater or equal part that comes from tv, movies, radio, ads, and partly the neighborhood and socio-economic environment they grow up in.

Marketing has probably advanced faster than psychology, and is truly masterfully effective, overtly and subvertly. But you could say that the 40s/50s did not have the same level of mass media so it is hard to compare. But in my view, the images and amount of exposure to television and media essentially replaces the formerly historic societal perceptions and racism, with other forms of messages that lead to the low self-worth. Maybe it is how black people in media are portrayed, or the very effective children targeted ads don't feature black dolls.

Anyways, it took it for what it was worth, and it is troubling the same perceptions are present in young children.



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