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*sigh*
*dead.

I'm a Canuck, so I can't access hulu.com

A Yank is welcome to go here: http://www.hulu.com/watch/23972/the-simpsons-all-syrup-super-squishy-bender

and retrieve the embed code? You'll get a power point, and a feeling of self-worth.

I'm not agreeing with what this gentleman said, or taking sides. I simply want to throw a question out there that entered into my mind while watching this and considering the Prop 8 debate.

Do many homosexuals conclude much of their personal identity of who they are as persons from their sexuality? Isn't sexuality just one of the physical functions of a human being? It's almost like someone proudly proclaiming that they are a "masticater." So regardless of what sexual preference one has, isn't it a bit alarming that so much attention is given to sexuality? and more so, that so much self worth comes from sexuality? Is it healthy to be in a society that is driven by people (again, hetero, or homosexual) that elevate one basic human action above all others?

Aren't people made up of so much more than just sexuality? Shouldn't one's identity be derived from so much more than simply one's sexuality?

In the meantime, I'm a masticater. I chew food.

Geeze you have issues in the way you view the world.

Don't we all?

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Weak people cannot be trained to be strong. People do not change. I like people who are honest with themselves and know exactly who they are, even if their reality is a distorted view of society. I don't necessarily condone their actions in all circumstances, but I understand their motivation.

>> ^spoco2:
Sorry Thinker, but your logic and adoration is all skewed beyond belief to me.
To have respect and admiration for people who have 'charisma' such as Manson, Koresh and Hubbard is pretty warped. You say yourself the only people that follow them are the weak and easily lead, so really, what are you applauding them for? The ability to be so self centered that they take advantage of the weak and pathetic for their own hedonistic and then violent needs?
Yeah, there's something to applaud.
I'd much more applaud someone who saw these people, saw how easily fooled and led they were and used their charisma and knowledge to, oh, I don't know... perhaps HELP THEM. Perhaps take the time to listen to them, to teach them the power of rational thought, to teach them self respect, to teach them respect for others, and perhaps teach them that they don't need some 'leader' figure to make their decisions for them. But be a big enough person that they don't NEED the adoration of others to feel any self worth in themselves. To be a complete enough person to be HAPPY when they stop listening to them and thank them and head out on their own to do better in the community.
I will never idolize, congratulate or think highly of any of the complete dicks you list as people you're fascinated by. Every one of them has serious personal issues and finds that the only way to feel good about themselves is to have hoards of gullible fools worship them.
You seem to be all about the personal responsibility and that if someone listens to someone else and does something bad, well, that's their own damn fault because their weak and foolish. Yeah, well, perhaps you should put some higher standards on those people who are learned, who do see how things work, and perhaps you should be far more annoyed at those people abusing the power and knowledge they have for personal sick means.
Geeze you have issues in the way you view the world.

Sorry Thinker, but your logic and adoration is all skewed beyond belief to me.

To have respect and admiration for people who have 'charisma' such as Manson, Koresh and Hubbard is pretty warped. You say yourself the only people that follow them are the weak and easily lead, so really, what are you applauding them for? The ability to be so self centered that they take advantage of the weak and pathetic for their own hedonistic and then violent needs?

Yeah, there's something to applaud.

I'd much more applaud someone who saw these people, saw how easily fooled and led they were and used their charisma and knowledge to, oh, I don't know... perhaps HELP THEM. Perhaps take the time to listen to them, to teach them the power of rational thought, to teach them self respect, to teach them respect for others, and perhaps teach them that they don't need some 'leader' figure to make their decisions for them. But be a big enough person that they don't NEED the adoration of others to feel any self worth in themselves. To be a complete enough person to be HAPPY when they stop listening to them and thank them and head out on their own to do better in the community.

I will never idolize, congratulate or think highly of any of the complete dicks you list as people you're fascinated by. Every one of them has serious personal issues and finds that the only way to feel good about themselves is to have hoards of gullible fools worship them.

You seem to be all about the personal responsibility and that if someone listens to someone else and does something bad, well, that's their own damn fault because their weak and foolish. Yeah, well, perhaps you should put some higher standards on those people who are learned, who do see how things work, and perhaps you should be far more annoyed at those people abusing the power and knowledge they have for personal sick means.

Geeze you have issues in the way you view the world.

No, I didn't miss her response at all. And that would've been fine if it had been left at that. She asked him to come in and protect her from the mean boy, and that's when it got out of hand. So maybe she did respond to moodonia herself - she also didn't leave it at that. It's her fault this all happened in the first place.

You can think what you will about my love life. It's perfectly healthy and I'm signing a lease with my boyfriend tomorrow. Just because I am disgusted by public displays of affection does not at all mean I don't know love. I just feel it should be a private affair. No one else needs to know the intricacies of your relationship - it's disgusting. Again, there's nothing wrong with the way Dag and Persephone or Issy and DFT interact on here. I much prefer that to what I've seen with others.

You're right. It was blown out of proportion - but not by moodonia or me. Karkarlee asked ObsidianFire to confront moodonia publicly, and he did so. THAT was the problem. I didn't claim to be the moral police, nor was I the only one that had a problem with the situation. I just may have been more vocal than others. And in case you hadn't noticed, I am oh so very worried about creating "long-term problems" on a website that I can choose to frequent as often as I like.

I don't have a problem with the way I act, and neither does anyone I care about. I will make my own decisions, and I don't need opinions of a strange man who obviously doesn't make perfect decisions himself. [Married at 20, maybe.] When you're perfect, then by all means interject your opinion on my actions. Until then, please keep to judging me from afar.

In reply to this comment by EDD:
Unfortunately, you obviously missed karkarlees initial response to moodonia. Yeah, and by the way - it was there before obsidianfire joined in. She did respond to him herself and did it well.

Also, seeing as how you don't grasp the idea of protectionism (mild jealousy) in a relationship and cuddling over the internet (it happens in text messages, too, you know), I'm inclined to believe you've not known love. Possibly you're/have been in one of those arranged relationships, in which at least one partner's faking it for their benefit. I wouldn't know and I'm not assuming anything beyond a simple reason for your complete inability to empathize in this situation. Yes, and it does speak volumes about your character, as does the fact that you've know referred to yourself as 'bitch' a couple of times. One might almost think karkarlee's not really the one with problems of self-respect/confidence.

And of course they had a problem with this mess. You and moodonia (unexpected of him) blew it out of proportions. Even if stuff's in writing (and oh noes, on the inhumane internet), YES, it can still offend anyone. So you'll be the moral police, telling everyone off when they raise objections towards what somebody's saying? It was still a discussion and it wasn't like Obsidianfire petitioned to have modoonia banned. If you've not realized it yet, the only one having/creating long-term problems here for themselves and others was you, and you did it on purpose, so don't bitch about it now, please.

Anyway, nice job on your attempts to reform a woman who's not as blunt and hardened as you are by being mean to her and her boyfriend for no real reason other than your dislike towards their type of relationship. Oh, and do inform me on how that attitude of yours of carrying out acts of disruptive behavior in internet/social communities/societies and not answering to anyone other than yourself works out in the future, will you?

Best of luck, Ed.

In reply to this comment by LittleRed:

I am not a snob; I am a woman. I am strong and I speak my mind. People who promote the "women are weak! Rescue them!" stereotype disgust me. I also realize that I am a bitch. I am generally told so on a weekly basis. I'd rather be a bitch than allow someone to walk all over me, or have a man speak for me.

I understand my opinion means a lot less to people [less than if I were polite] because I'm a bitch. I get it. But I would respect a bitch over someone who won't even address a stranger to say "Hey, this makes me uncomfortable," and sends her boyfriend in to mess things up.

If comments from guys on the internet offend you, you have a problem. If you can't even say to the offender "Hey, I don't really appreciate being hit on; would you mind not doing that again?" for fear of not being taken seriously, you need some counseling in self-worth. How to stand up for yourself. If you have a history of doing this kind of thing, even more so. If you send your internet boyfriend in to "clean up the mess" only to not back him up when he starts a shit storm, that's a problem. If you think the original comment is sexual harassment, you have a serious problem.

It's obvious to even a blind person that the two are dating. They spread their stickily sweet lovey-dovey relationship on every comment written, every blog post, even their profile. Maybe internet relationships just have to communicate their attachment to everyone in fear the next internet girl or guy will steal their partner away? I don't understand the meaning behind that, and I do find it curious that the only two couples on here who aren't content with making the occasional comfortable relationship comment (i.e. Issykitty and DFT OR laura and DonJuan, OR Dag and Persephone) are long-distance, on another continent couples. Ugh. That aside, it's obvious they're dating. Anyone who makes a comment like "Maybe we should talk" is OBVIOUSLY not intending that as a pick-up line, especially with a militant boyfriend around the corner.

If you want to label me as a feminist, I will proudly accept that label. However, unlike some, I don't want to give a bad name to feminists for my views. By that, I mean I don't speak for anyone else or females in general when I say what I do. I think it's disgusting that she's running to someone else to do her dirty work, and even blames that on the fact that she's female and has had less-than-perfect interactions with men in the past. Do I scorn her for showing "feminine" traits in this situation? If you want to consider those "feminine traits," be my guest. I see weakness and a complete lack of self-respect, or self-confidence. She purports to be extremely confident in her relationship, to the point that she allows her boyfriend, as long as he's on another continent, to watch porn. [Considering that's the way their relationship is, fine. But when her views on porn in anything other than a long-distance relationship are the same or similar to the ones thepinky and I were trying to share, she shouldn't have acted so self-righteous.] Yet at the same time, she's not comfortable enough to have a strange guy make a perfectly innocent, somewhat flirtatious comment, and neither is her boyfriend.

In addition, I do not "continuously troll a website with [my] snide comments." Sure, I may contribute a snide comment on occasion - the only two I can think of outside this discussion are the comment to LadyDeath about how she should apologize for quoting thepinky on the porn thread, and to K0MMIE when he attacked me in his post on the same topic. No, I may not contribute much video-wise. As I've said before, I joined for the discussion; I'm not a vote whore. In topics that are not emotionally charged or sexist, my comments are well-thought-out and generally appreciated. I have several comments from the first few months I joined that, if the comment voting system had been in place, I would have a star by now. Sure, maybe that doesn't negate the fact that what I have said recently, some people may consider out of line. Then again, I don't have to answer to anyone but myself.

Unfortunately, you obviously missed karkarlees initial response to moodonia. Yeah, and by the way - it was there before obsidianfire joined in. She did respond to him herself and did it well.

Also, seeing as how you don't grasp the idea of protectionism (mild jealousy) in a relationship and cuddling over the internet (it happens in text messages, too, you know), I'm inclined to believe you've not known love. Possibly you're/have been in one of those arranged relationships, in which at least one partner's faking it for their benefit. I wouldn't know and I'm not assuming anything beyond a simple reason for your complete inability to empathize in this situation. Yes, and it does speak volumes about your character, as does the fact that you've know referred to yourself as 'bitch' a couple of times. One might almost think karkarlee's not really the one with problems of self-respect/confidence.

And of course they had a problem with this mess. You and moodonia (unexpected of him) blew it out of proportions. Even if stuff's in writing (and oh noes, on the inhumane internet), YES, it can still offend anyone. So you'll be the moral police, telling everyone off when they raise objections towards what somebody's saying? It was still a discussion and it wasn't like Obsidianfire petitioned to have modoonia banned. If you've not realized it yet, the only one having/creating long-term problems here for themselves and others was you, and you did it on purpose, so don't bitch about it now, please.

Anyway, nice job on your attempts to reform a woman who's not as blunt and hardened as you are by being mean to her and her boyfriend for no real reason other than your dislike towards their type of relationship. Oh, and do inform me on how that attitude of yours of carrying out acts of disruptive behavior in internet/social communities/societies and not answering to anyone other than yourself works out in the future, will you?

Best of luck, Ed.

In reply to this comment by LittleRed:

I am not a snob; I am a woman. I am strong and I speak my mind. People who promote the "women are weak! Rescue them!" stereotype disgust me. I also realize that I am a bitch. I am generally told so on a weekly basis. I'd rather be a bitch than allow someone to walk all over me, or have a man speak for me.

I understand my opinion means a lot less to people [less than if I were polite] because I'm a bitch. I get it. But I would respect a bitch over someone who won't even address a stranger to say "Hey, this makes me uncomfortable," and sends her boyfriend in to mess things up.

If comments from guys on the internet offend you, you have a problem. If you can't even say to the offender "Hey, I don't really appreciate being hit on; would you mind not doing that again?" for fear of not being taken seriously, you need some counseling in self-worth. How to stand up for yourself. If you have a history of doing this kind of thing, even more so. If you send your internet boyfriend in to "clean up the mess" only to not back him up when he starts a shit storm, that's a problem. If you think the original comment is sexual harassment, you have a serious problem.

It's obvious to even a blind person that the two are dating. They spread their stickily sweet lovey-dovey relationship on every comment written, every blog post, even their profile. Maybe internet relationships just have to communicate their attachment to everyone in fear the next internet girl or guy will steal their partner away? I don't understand the meaning behind that, and I do find it curious that the only two couples on here who aren't content with making the occasional comfortable relationship comment (i.e. Issykitty and DFT OR laura and DonJuan, OR Dag and Persephone) are long-distance, on another continent couples. Ugh. That aside, it's obvious they're dating. Anyone who makes a comment like "Maybe we should talk" is OBVIOUSLY not intending that as a pick-up line, especially with a militant boyfriend around the corner.

If you want to label me as a feminist, I will proudly accept that label. However, unlike some, I don't want to give a bad name to feminists for my views. By that, I mean I don't speak for anyone else or females in general when I say what I do. I think it's disgusting that she's running to someone else to do her dirty work, and even blames that on the fact that she's female and has had less-than-perfect interactions with men in the past. Do I scorn her for showing "feminine" traits in this situation? If you want to consider those "feminine traits," be my guest. I see weakness and a complete lack of self-respect, or self-confidence. She purports to be extremely confident in her relationship, to the point that she allows her boyfriend, as long as he's on another continent, to watch porn. [Considering that's the way their relationship is, fine. But when her views on porn in anything other than a long-distance relationship are the same or similar to the ones thepinky and I were trying to share, she shouldn't have acted so self-righteous.] Yet at the same time, she's not comfortable enough to have a strange guy make a perfectly innocent, somewhat flirtatious comment, and neither is her boyfriend.

In addition, I do not "continuously troll a website with [my] snide comments." Sure, I may contribute a snide comment on occasion - the only two I can think of outside this discussion are the comment to LadyDeath about how she should apologize for quoting thepinky on the porn thread, and to K0MMIE when he attacked me in his post on the same topic. No, I may not contribute much video-wise. As I've said before, I joined for the discussion; I'm not a vote whore. In topics that are not emotionally charged or sexist, my comments are well-thought-out and generally appreciated. I have several comments from the first few months I joined that, if the comment voting system had been in place, I would have a star by now. Sure, maybe that doesn't negate the fact that what I have said recently, some people may consider out of line. Then again, I don't have to answer to anyone but myself.

In reply to this comment by EDD:
Your snobbish attitude disgusts me, LittleRed: this feeling trumped over my surprise when I just found out you're a female. I also have a feeling that you deliberately reserved those thinly (at best) veiled insults for the last paragraph-again. This trait of yours is despicable.

I must say I have hell of a lot more respect for a lady who turned to her mate for assistance in a discussion that made her uncomfortable for good reasons than for one who basically continuously trolls a web site with her snide comments and attacks a fellow female for showing.. what, feminine traits in an internet conversation? Her vulnerability? How does that concern/offend you, exactly?

To be fair I am completely at a loss as to why you're being this aggressive (feminism?) when discussing similar topics. I'd like to know why. And yes, I'm not hiding my dislike towards the way you've behaved on this site.

I am not a snob; I am a woman. I am strong and I speak my mind. People who promote the "women are weak! Rescue them!" stereotype disgust me. I also realize that I am a bitch. I am generally told so on a weekly basis. I'd rather be a bitch than allow someone to walk all over me, or have a man speak for me.

I understand my opinion means a lot less to people [less than if I were polite] because I'm a bitch. I get it. But I would respect a bitch over someone who won't even address a stranger to say "Hey, this makes me uncomfortable," and sends her boyfriend in to mess things up.

If comments from guys on the internet offend you, you have a problem. If you can't even say to the offender "Hey, I don't really appreciate being hit on; would you mind not doing that again?" for fear of not being taken seriously, you need some counseling in self-worth. How to stand up for yourself. If you have a history of doing this kind of thing, even more so. If you send your internet boyfriend in to "clean up the mess" only to not back him up when he starts a shit storm, that's a problem. If you think the original comment is sexual harassment, you have a serious problem.

It's obvious to even a blind person that the two are dating. They spread their stickily sweet lovey-dovey relationship on every comment written, every blog post, even their profile. Maybe internet relationships just have to communicate their attachment to everyone in fear the next internet girl or guy will steal their partner away? I don't understand the meaning behind that, and I do find it curious that the only two couples on here who aren't content with making the occasional comfortable relationship comment (i.e. Issykitty and DFT OR laura and DonJuan, OR Dag and Persephone) are long-distance, on another continent couples. Ugh. That aside, it's obvious they're dating. Anyone who makes a comment like "Maybe we should talk" is OBVIOUSLY not intending that as a pick-up line, especially with a militant boyfriend around the corner.

If you want to label me as a feminist, I will proudly accept that label. However, unlike some, I don't want to give a bad name to feminists for my views. By that, I mean I don't speak for anyone else or females in general when I say what I do. I think it's disgusting that she's running to someone else to do her dirty work, and even blames that on the fact that she's female and has had less-than-perfect interactions with men in the past. Do I scorn her for showing "feminine" traits in this situation? If you want to consider those "feminine traits," be my guest. I see weakness and a complete lack of self-respect, or self-confidence. She purports to be extremely confident in her relationship, to the point that she allows her boyfriend, as long as he's on another continent, to watch porn. [Considering that's the way their relationship is, fine. But when her views on porn in anything other than a long-distance relationship are the same or similar to the ones thepinky and I were trying to share, she shouldn't have acted so self-righteous.] Yet at the same time, she's not comfortable enough to have a strange guy make a perfectly innocent, somewhat flirtatious comment, and neither is her boyfriend.

In addition, I do not "continuously troll a website with [my] snide comments." Sure, I may contribute a snide comment on occasion - the only two I can think of outside this discussion are the comment to LadyDeath about how she should apologize for quoting thepinky on the porn thread, and to K0MMIE when he attacked me in his post on the same topic. No, I may not contribute much video-wise. As I've said before, I joined for the discussion; I'm not a vote whore. In topics that are not emotionally charged or sexist, my comments are well-thought-out and generally appreciated. I have several comments from the first few months I joined that, if the comment voting system had been in place, I would have a star by now. Sure, maybe that doesn't negate the fact that what I have said recently, some people may consider out of line. Then again, I don't have to answer to anyone but myself.

This has been on the sift before, but seems to be gone.

I said it then, and I'll say it now, parent's who do this attachment style of parenting, allowing the children to 'make their decisions' (when to leave the parents bed, when to stop breast feeding, when to toilet train etc. etc.) show more about their own issues than any good intentions towards the children.

The ones I know demonstrate serious issues to do with self worth and the need to be needed.

Children cosseted in this way may grow up ok, but more than likely will have issues pertaining to attachment and not getting what they want whenever they want.

Society has in all likelihood gone too far the other way and is trying to force kids to grow up too quickly these days, and push them into childcare etc. BUT the answer is not to fully swing in the opposite direction and mollycoddle kids into children who can't function fully in the 'real' world.

If no one bites my head off, is it ok to suggest that maybe it would have been better just put the camera down and walk away? Seems this guys sense of self worth hinges on the possibility of getting a viral video on the center of his life that is the internet. Gotta be a better way though.

Mariah Carey may be washed up, but I'd still do her. I'm not a sexist, but I realize that's probably a sexist statement. I still remember when she was young, and though her songs were lame she still had the voice of an angel.

(Long, lame, nostalgic bullshit warning)

It reminds of a girl with whom I used to work. At the time I was 23 and she was 18, and yet at that time I felt our age difference was vast. I thought I was so urbane and sophisticated because I was a whole 5 years older than her. Yeah, I was one of those guys who felt sophisticated at the mature age of 23. Crucifixion deserved.

The fact of the matter is that she was hot enough to relegate my 5+ year seniority to the dumpster because she was also a smart, funny, beautiful person who didn't feel the need to succor the delusions of a twenty-something individual to maintain her sense of self-worth.

So what am I trying to say? God DAMN all you smart and beautiful woman, that's what. And the less smart, less beautiful women too. You all get what you deserve: Never getting my company. So live with it. And you BEST not tell me you're over it already.

Because that would break my heart.

Again.

I'm a father of three (4, 3 and 1.5) and have seen within the extended group of mothers that the few that practice attachment parenting tend to be doing for reasons other than what they truly think is best for the child. In a large number of cases it seems to stem from the mother having an inability to let go, or deriving to much self worth from the children needing her. This, I'm sure, is not the case all the time, but certainly seems to be the case more often than not in those that we know.

That's not to say that Western society in general hasn't swung a too far the other way, and kids are born and then chucked into full time child care almost as soon as they can, but in a large part that tends to be driven by financial pressures and the need for both parents to go back to work. (yes, you could go on and on about priorities and well, do you really need $X to live comfortably etc. etc... but that's another discussion).

I just feel that the attachment idea of thinking that babies/toddlers are the best authority on knowing when they should sleep in their own bed, or when they should ween, or when they need to start using a toilet are all a little bit of ascribing a tad too much knowledge onto them that they don't really have. I think some people have the problem of putting an adult mindset into a child and thinking that they have this amazing innate knowledge which I just don't think they do.

Kids need boundaries, kids need rules, kids do feel most happy when they know/think that their parents do indeed know best and that they are there to keep them safe and secure. Not there to wait on kids every need. (Admitted this video is only showing the breast side of things, but I would imagine that they ascribe to the belief that their kids get to decide a whole gamut of things that they really aren't in the position to).

Having said all that, will this damage the kids? Turn them into freaks? It all depends on the extent of the 'always being there for my kid' thing... the mothers who drop everything any time their kid wants anything are going to find they have a little brat that doesn't know the meaning of no. Mothers who are just very nurturing but still lay down a good set of boundaries and rules will probably end up with happy, well adjusted kids.

Everything in moderation.

I can take a pill to increase my self-worth now! That's great I'm firing my therapist today! What's that number again? 1-800-BUY-SCAM?

Well, I thank you MG for continuing to delude me with the false thought of self worth. Haha. Thank you. I was thinking about a desktop bobble head Sifty. Maybe some sift inspired inspirational posters? maybe a frame from one of our top sifts with some fancy letter work adjoining?

It's just that these people deal with the looks and leers and comments EVERY SINGLE freakin day of their lives! My sister walks down our small town street and every guy in visible range has a long hard look. You can throw all the proper psychology at them you want, but just the sheer repetitive, constant, predictable reactions they get wears them down. It is a hard life.

"The tragedy is when people who have used their "attractiveness" all their life, to get where they are, finally age and loose that appeal. Many have their self-worth rapped up in appearance, hence the popularity of plastic surgery."
- and 'all their life' every person they meet reinforces their dependence on their looks, constantly. It's hard not to get brainwashed into thinking it's all you got.