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LittleRed says...

I'm her hypocritical sidekick now? That's good to know - I was unaware of said fact until now.

In reply to this comment by EDD:
No thanks necessary, especially since I wasn't so much standing up for you as trying to obliterate thepinky's trusty sidekicks' hypocritical defense. Besides, to any sane and rational person you're not the underdog in that situation, because you're not the troll

In reply to this comment by UsesProzac:
Thank you.

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LittleRed says...

Hmmm. Never would've guessed that one. But thanks! My brain needed a little break after my huge term paper due today. Some mindless Videosift exercising did the trick.

In reply to this comment by schmawy:
Maybe you never met him. Anyway, nice work.

In reply to this comment by LittleRed:
I couldn't figure out yours... er, the cheese one.

In reply to this comment by schmawy:
Wow! Aced the crossword. That'll be a tough score to beat, I think.

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LittleRed says...

No, I didn't miss her response at all. And that would've been fine if it had been left at that. She asked him to come in and protect her from the mean boy, and that's when it got out of hand. So maybe she did respond to moodonia herself - she also didn't leave it at that. It's her fault this all happened in the first place.

You can think what you will about my love life. It's perfectly healthy and I'm signing a lease with my boyfriend tomorrow. Just because I am disgusted by public displays of affection does not at all mean I don't know love. I just feel it should be a private affair. No one else needs to know the intricacies of your relationship - it's disgusting. Again, there's nothing wrong with the way Dag and Persephone or Issy and DFT interact on here. I much prefer that to what I've seen with others.

You're right. It was blown out of proportion - but not by moodonia or me. Karkarlee asked ObsidianFire to confront moodonia publicly, and he did so. THAT was the problem. I didn't claim to be the moral police, nor was I the only one that had a problem with the situation. I just may have been more vocal than others. And in case you hadn't noticed, I am oh so very worried about creating "long-term problems" on a website that I can choose to frequent as often as I like.

I don't have a problem with the way I act, and neither does anyone I care about. I will make my own decisions, and I don't need opinions of a strange man who obviously doesn't make perfect decisions himself. [Married at 20, maybe.] When you're perfect, then by all means interject your opinion on my actions. Until then, please keep to judging me from afar.

In reply to this comment by EDD:
Unfortunately, you obviously missed karkarlees initial response to moodonia. Yeah, and by the way - it was there before obsidianfire joined in. She did respond to him herself and did it well.

Also, seeing as how you don't grasp the idea of protectionism (mild jealousy) in a relationship and cuddling over the internet (it happens in text messages, too, you know), I'm inclined to believe you've not known love. Possibly you're/have been in one of those arranged relationships, in which at least one partner's faking it for their benefit. I wouldn't know and I'm not assuming anything beyond a simple reason for your complete inability to empathize in this situation. Yes, and it does speak volumes about your character, as does the fact that you've know referred to yourself as 'bitch' a couple of times. One might almost think karkarlee's not really the one with problems of self-respect/confidence.

And of course they had a problem with this mess. You and moodonia (unexpected of him) blew it out of proportions. Even if stuff's in writing (and oh noes, on the inhumane internet), YES, it can still offend anyone. So you'll be the moral police, telling everyone off when they raise objections towards what somebody's saying? It was still a discussion and it wasn't like Obsidianfire petitioned to have modoonia banned. If you've not realized it yet, the only one having/creating long-term problems here for themselves and others was you, and you did it on purpose, so don't bitch about it now, please.

Anyway, nice job on your attempts to reform a woman who's not as blunt and hardened as you are by being mean to her and her boyfriend for no real reason other than your dislike towards their type of relationship. Oh, and do inform me on how that attitude of yours of carrying out acts of disruptive behavior in internet/social communities/societies and not answering to anyone other than yourself works out in the future, will you?

Best of luck, Ed.

In reply to this comment by LittleRed:

I am not a snob; I am a woman. I am strong and I speak my mind. People who promote the "women are weak! Rescue them!" stereotype disgust me. I also realize that I am a bitch. I am generally told so on a weekly basis. I'd rather be a bitch than allow someone to walk all over me, or have a man speak for me.

I understand my opinion means a lot less to people [less than if I were polite] because I'm a bitch. I get it. But I would respect a bitch over someone who won't even address a stranger to say "Hey, this makes me uncomfortable," and sends her boyfriend in to mess things up.

If comments from guys on the internet offend you, you have a problem. If you can't even say to the offender "Hey, I don't really appreciate being hit on; would you mind not doing that again?" for fear of not being taken seriously, you need some counseling in self-worth. How to stand up for yourself. If you have a history of doing this kind of thing, even more so. If you send your internet boyfriend in to "clean up the mess" only to not back him up when he starts a shit storm, that's a problem. If you think the original comment is sexual harassment, you have a serious problem.

It's obvious to even a blind person that the two are dating. They spread their stickily sweet lovey-dovey relationship on every comment written, every blog post, even their profile. Maybe internet relationships just have to communicate their attachment to everyone in fear the next internet girl or guy will steal their partner away? I don't understand the meaning behind that, and I do find it curious that the only two couples on here who aren't content with making the occasional comfortable relationship comment (i.e. Issykitty and DFT OR laura and DonJuan, OR Dag and Persephone) are long-distance, on another continent couples. Ugh. That aside, it's obvious they're dating. Anyone who makes a comment like "Maybe we should talk" is OBVIOUSLY not intending that as a pick-up line, especially with a militant boyfriend around the corner.

If you want to label me as a feminist, I will proudly accept that label. However, unlike some, I don't want to give a bad name to feminists for my views. By that, I mean I don't speak for anyone else or females in general when I say what I do. I think it's disgusting that she's running to someone else to do her dirty work, and even blames that on the fact that she's female and has had less-than-perfect interactions with men in the past. Do I scorn her for showing "feminine" traits in this situation? If you want to consider those "feminine traits," be my guest. I see weakness and a complete lack of self-respect, or self-confidence. She purports to be extremely confident in her relationship, to the point that she allows her boyfriend, as long as he's on another continent, to watch porn. [Considering that's the way their relationship is, fine. But when her views on porn in anything other than a long-distance relationship are the same or similar to the ones thepinky and I were trying to share, she shouldn't have acted so self-righteous.] Yet at the same time, she's not comfortable enough to have a strange guy make a perfectly innocent, somewhat flirtatious comment, and neither is her boyfriend.

In addition, I do not "continuously troll a website with [my] snide comments." Sure, I may contribute a snide comment on occasion - the only two I can think of outside this discussion are the comment to LadyDeath about how she should apologize for quoting thepinky on the porn thread, and to K0MMIE when he attacked me in his post on the same topic. No, I may not contribute much video-wise. As I've said before, I joined for the discussion; I'm not a vote whore. In topics that are not emotionally charged or sexist, my comments are well-thought-out and generally appreciated. I have several comments from the first few months I joined that, if the comment voting system had been in place, I would have a star by now. Sure, maybe that doesn't negate the fact that what I have said recently, some people may consider out of line. Then again, I don't have to answer to anyone but myself.

EDD (Member Profile)

LittleRed says...

In reply to this comment by EDD:
Your snobbish attitude disgusts me, LittleRed: this feeling trumped over my surprise when I just found out you're a female. I also have a feeling that you deliberately reserved those thinly (at best) veiled insults for the last paragraph-again. This trait of yours is despicable.

I must say I have hell of a lot more respect for a lady who turned to her mate for assistance in a discussion that made her uncomfortable for good reasons than for one who basically continuously trolls a web site with her snide comments and attacks a fellow female for showing.. what, feminine traits in an internet conversation? Her vulnerability? How does that concern/offend you, exactly?

To be fair I am completely at a loss as to why you're being this aggressive (feminism?) when discussing similar topics. I'd like to know why. And yes, I'm not hiding my dislike towards the way you've behaved on this site.


I am not a snob; I am a woman. I am strong and I speak my mind. People who promote the "women are weak! Rescue them!" stereotype disgust me. I also realize that I am a bitch. I am generally told so on a weekly basis. I'd rather be a bitch than allow someone to walk all over me, or have a man speak for me.

I understand my opinion means a lot less to people [less than if I were polite] because I'm a bitch. I get it. But I would respect a bitch over someone who won't even address a stranger to say "Hey, this makes me uncomfortable," and sends her boyfriend in to mess things up.

If comments from guys on the internet offend you, you have a problem. If you can't even say to the offender "Hey, I don't really appreciate being hit on; would you mind not doing that again?" for fear of not being taken seriously, you need some counseling in self-worth. How to stand up for yourself. If you have a history of doing this kind of thing, even more so. If you send your internet boyfriend in to "clean up the mess" only to not back him up when he starts a shit storm, that's a problem. If you think the original comment is sexual harassment, you have a serious problem.

It's obvious to even a blind person that the two are dating. They spread their stickily sweet lovey-dovey relationship on every comment written, every blog post, even their profile. Maybe internet relationships just have to communicate their attachment to everyone in fear the next internet girl or guy will steal their partner away? I don't understand the meaning behind that, and I do find it curious that the only two couples on here who aren't content with making the occasional comfortable relationship comment (i.e. Issykitty and DFT OR laura and DonJuan, OR Dag and Persephone) are long-distance, on another continent couples. Ugh. That aside, it's obvious they're dating. Anyone who makes a comment like "Maybe we should talk" is OBVIOUSLY not intending that as a pick-up line, especially with a militant boyfriend around the corner.

If you want to label me as a feminist, I will proudly accept that label. However, unlike some, I don't want to give a bad name to feminists for my views. By that, I mean I don't speak for anyone else or females in general when I say what I do. I think it's disgusting that she's running to someone else to do her dirty work, and even blames that on the fact that she's female and has had less-than-perfect interactions with men in the past. Do I scorn her for showing "feminine" traits in this situation? If you want to consider those "feminine traits," be my guest. I see weakness and a complete lack of self-respect, or self-confidence. She purports to be extremely confident in her relationship, to the point that she allows her boyfriend, as long as he's on another continent, to watch porn. [Considering that's the way their relationship is, fine. But when her views on porn in anything other than a long-distance relationship are the same or similar to the ones thepinky and I were trying to share, she shouldn't have acted so self-righteous.] Yet at the same time, she's not comfortable enough to have a strange guy make a perfectly innocent, somewhat flirtatious comment, and neither is her boyfriend.

In addition, I do not "continuously troll a website with [my] snide comments." Sure, I may contribute a snide comment on occasion - the only two I can think of outside this discussion are the comment to LadyDeath about how she should apologize for quoting thepinky on the porn thread, and to K0MMIE when he attacked me in his post on the same topic. No, I may not contribute much video-wise. As I've said before, I joined for the discussion; I'm not a vote whore. In topics that are not emotionally charged or sexist, my comments are well-thought-out and generally appreciated. I have several comments from the first few months I joined that, if the comment voting system had been in place, I would have a star by now. Sure, maybe that doesn't negate the fact that what I have said recently, some people may consider out of line. Then again, I don't have to answer to anyone but myself.

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LittleRed says...

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Don't despair, LittleRed. It's a helluva fight you and thePinky picked to have on the internet. And please don't take any of it personally. You both have my utmost respect for even trying.

I know, and it's certainly not a fight I would've chosen to have, but at the same time, I have to stand up for what I believe in - especially when it's one girl against the entire website, other women included.

She and I have slightly different views on why, and in what situations it's bad. I see where she's going with the "porn leads to sexual abuse," but I don't necessarily agree. I don't doubt that the two are related, because you won't ever hear of a rapist who doesn't (or hasn't) watched porn. At the same time, I think it is more destructive to relationships than it is to guys who have a chemical imbalance and are prone to immoral acts in the first place.

I am a Passion Parties consultant, and have been since I was 18. I have had women come to me - a sorority sister even, just 21, that are dating men who are completely incapable of climax with a woman. In her case, he is in his late 20s / early 30s, had only had sex twice (not two partners, just twice) before her. He blames the problem on his raging porn habit. Can that hurt a relationship? Absolutely. She feels she's not good enough, and though he promised to quell his addiction several months ago, the results haven't changed.

Even something less extreme - porn in a long-distance relationship. The one situation in a relationship where porn is most acceptable. I think I make my stance on porn fairly clear, so I shared some of the professional photos of a scandalous nature I had done, as well as allowed photos to be taken. The thought was that I'd rather have him looking at me than at other women. I have been able to tell a difference in our sex life as time progresses, to the point that I asked him to remove all the pictures he had.

I guess to sum it all up, I'm not completely anti-porn. However, research and experience tell me porn is nothing but trouble for relationships, especially if the couple is living together.

I don't think that's too much to ask, but I haven't felt that my view really fits in to this most recent thread, and I never felt the need to share in the previous ones. So - sorry that you probably didn't expect a reply, but I really had to get it out there.

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LittleRed says...

Or maybe November time. You can have your veterans' coffee on Veterans' Day. Your three-day weekend options are Labor Day, Veteran's Day, or Thanksgiving.

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I'd like a siftup, anyway. I'm moving to Arizona anyway, and I had planned on making the trip to CA sometime thereafter... maybe October time. My girl was going to visit her grandparents and we were gonna have lunch or dinner with Lucky. It would be sweet if you joined us!

In reply to this comment by dystopianfuturetoday:
Dinner and drinks on Issy and me if you ever come to Los Angeles. Thanks, MG.

In reply to this comment by MarineGunrock:
Where's my free coffee damnit?

Oh, wait, they only give a shit about veterans when there's a chance to look like something other than a faceless corporation that is almost single-handedly responsible for the obesity of America the world.

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