I agree with you in principle but s**t man, relax. It's only the internets. >> ^jackhalfaprayer:

argumentum ad hominem. it's not my job to do better; it's rockstar's job to do better. we weren't talking about me or anyone else until you changed the subject. i'd say that bethesda has been doing better open world games since the mid-to-late 90's, konami's silent hill series has been better at telling stories (read: making one feel like playing through a movie, which rockstar wishes they could accomplish), and just about any third-person game from tomb raider to max payne has a better 3-rd person targeting system than that broken-ass excuse rockstar has been trying to fix for 10 iterations or so. so pretty much everything that GTA has been mashing up into a huge meaningless sandbox of drivel has been done before in a less broken fashion, with more variety, less linearity, less repetitive gameplay, and without falling back on hopelessly cliche, hackneyed mafioso stereotypes and slipshod driving mechanics.
but if you wanted to give me money to write a game and pay some programmers and artists and designers, absolutely! i'd be happy to present to you a game that is better than anything rockstar has produced to date. until then, fanboy, defend this mediocre studio with some actual points instead an ad hominem logical fallacy... or just stfu about what i or anyone else should be doing better than rockstar. rockstar puts out unoriginal crap with semi-impressive tech and people like you eat it up, bloat their egos, and line the pockets of corporate lackeys that are afraid to do anything new with an old IP. there's better work out there. you must not hear about it because it's not mentioned in your gamepro subscription. so go preorder this re-hash bullshit, and rest ignorant of the knowledge that people like you are destroying this industry, and this community, by buying into the hype machine of some fake gangster-sim crap with nothing new to offer since version III. and don't tell me that I should put up with it because there's nothing better out there, wtf sort of defense is that?
>> ^Yogi:
>> ^jackhalfaprayer:
GTA III was the last time there was any innovation in this series. I'm tired of sandbox missions with a half-assed organized crime drama throughline. I'd rather watch Goodfellas or something where there's real writing and acting. Rockstar games are overhyped and underdeveloped.

You...or ANYONE do better. Seriously we've seen other sandbox games try and fail...this is like criticizing WoW for being what it is. Do something better or accept that this is as good as it gets right now and shut up.

argumentum ad hominem. it's not my job to do better; it's rockstar's job to do better. we weren't talking about me or anyone else until you changed the subject. i'd say that bethesda has been doing better open world games since the mid-to-late 90's, konami's silent hill series has been better at telling stories (read: making one feel like playing through a movie, which rockstar wishes they could accomplish), and just about any third-person game from tomb raider to max payne has a better 3-rd person targeting system than that broken-ass excuse rockstar has been trying to fix for 10 iterations or so. so pretty much everything that GTA has been mashing up into a huge meaningless sandbox of drivel has been done before in a less broken fashion, with more variety, less linearity, less repetitive gameplay, and without falling back on hopelessly cliche, hackneyed mafioso stereotypes and slipshod driving mechanics.

but if you wanted to give me money to write a game and pay some programmers and artists and designers, absolutely! i'd be happy to present to you a game that is better than anything rockstar has produced to date. until then, fanboy, defend this mediocre studio with some actual points instead an ad hominem logical fallacy... or just stfu about what i or anyone else should be doing better than rockstar. rockstar puts out unoriginal crap with semi-impressive tech and people like you eat it up, bloat their egos, and line the pockets of corporate lackeys that are afraid to do anything new with an old IP. there's better work out there. you must not hear about it because it's not mentioned in your gamepro subscription. so go preorder this re-hash bullshit, and rest ignorant of the knowledge that people like you are destroying this industry, and this community, by buying into the hype machine of some fake gangster-sim crap with nothing new to offer since version III. and don't tell me that I should put up with it because there's nothing better out there, wtf sort of defense is that?

>> ^Yogi:

>> ^jackhalfaprayer:
GTA III was the last time there was any innovation in this series. I'm tired of sandbox missions with a half-assed organized crime drama throughline. I'd rather watch Goodfellas or something where there's real writing and acting. Rockstar games are overhyped and underdeveloped.

You...or ANYONE do better. Seriously we've seen other sandbox games try and fail...this is like criticizing WoW for being what it is. Do something better or accept that this is as good as it gets right now and shut up.

Do you think nobody knows that corporations are in bed with the government? What are we, stupid? But try telling a poor person not to buy their clothes at walmart, or their groceries at a large chain grocery store. Boycotting isn't realistic for everybody and unfortunately corporate product is very tempting.>> ^Boise_Lib:

>> ^rottenseed:
So you're saying that boycotts DO work. So then why isn't that enough to force corporations to behave???>> ^Boise_Lib:
>> ^rottenseed:
"One" is a synonym for a minority voice in this instance. Boycotting isn't usually done by one person at a time either>> ^Boise_Lib:
>> ^rottenseed:
I understand the "one voice won't make a difference" philosophy, but isn't that, in the same breath, admitting that a protest is futile?

One voice added to many others in a protest is no longer one voice.


Color of Change's boycott of advertisers on Glenn Beck's show.
The massive, international boycott of South African products over apartheid.
Too many examples to list here.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_boycotts
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboa
rd.php?az=view_all&address=132x2590712


Boycotts HAVE worked. After enough people are aware of the problems.

>> ^rottenseed:

So you're saying that boycotts DO work. So then why isn't that enough to force corporations to behave???>> ^Boise_Lib:
>> ^rottenseed:
"One" is a synonym for a minority voice in this instance. Boycotting isn't usually done by one person at a time either>> ^Boise_Lib:
>> ^rottenseed:
I understand the "one voice won't make a difference" philosophy, but isn't that, in the same breath, admitting that a protest is futile?

One voice added to many others in a protest is no longer one voice.


Color of Change's boycott of advertisers on Glenn Beck's show.
The massive, international boycott of South African products over apartheid.
Too many examples to list here.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_boycotts
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboa
rd.php?az=view_all&address=132x2590712



Boycotts HAVE worked. After enough people are aware of the problems.

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If you enjoyed the first game, you're really missing out if you don't play the 3'rd.

>> ^MarineGunrock:

Good luck finding half-jacketed 7.62 x39 rounds.


http://www.sportsmansguide.com/net/cb/golden-bear-762x39-125-grain-sp-ammo-20-rds.aspx?a=472398

They are required for legal hunting in many states, but nobody attacking an armored car is going to go out of their way to find less effective ammo. The fact that they don't actually say what they are firing, makes me suspicious.

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>> ^burdturgler:

I learned that it's really hard to get blood stains out of a clown suit.


http://www.rd.com/home/home-remedies-for-removing-bloodstains/

>> ^bmacs27:

Honestly, he didn't come off that badly. He wasn't all, "but Jesus said." I mean, he even accepted that Muslim scholars need to look more into evolution. That's about as benign as ignorance can get.


I've seen the doc RD refers to with the Muslim 'science class'. If he's anything like that lot he has no intention of looking into anything except how to shut RD up.

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For comparison, here is what it looked like before.

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Meh, he isn't angry, that's just how us Aussies all sound, all the time

@EvilDeathBee, is it near St Kilda Rd in Melbourne? Looks like it.