I once hit a little patch of black ice and went down doing maybe 10kph. I was wearing jeans and despite the low speed the pavement still wore through and gave me road rash on my ass. Lesson learned.

As for this asshat, you know what we call guys like this? Organ donors.

*eia

That makes sense. I have a friend who is unwilling (at least right now) to do the Tough Mudder, but he did a Warrior Dash this summer and said it was "easy."

Don't get me wrong, I'd like to do a TM at some point... =)

>> ^garmachi:

>> ^carneval:
I've been thinking about doing one in VT next year, if other athletic pursuits don't interfere.
It seems like a pretty cool thing; though coming from the viewpoint of a traditional runner it's hard not to see it as a bit gimmicky (ike I said, I'd still like to do it)...
Not as gimmicky as this, though: http://runforyourlives.com/

On the surface, it DOES seem a bit gimmicky to me as well. The zombie one looks fun, and there seems to be a rash of these things popping up all over the place just this year. I wonder if it's really a new trend, or "blue car syndrome..." Either way, everyone I've talked to who's done it says that it's incredibly challenging and not for the faint of heart.
We ran a Warrior Dash (3 mile version of the Tough Mudder) earlier this year and were a bit disappointed - it was fun, don't get me wrong, but it felt like a frat party which happened to have a mud pit and some joggers. I forget who said it, but the summed up the difference as "you can do the Warrior Dash with a hangover, but to do the Tough Mudder you have to sign a Death Waiver first."

>> ^carneval:

I've been thinking about doing one in VT next year, if other athletic pursuits don't interfere.
It seems like a pretty cool thing; though coming from the viewpoint of a traditional runner it's hard not to see it as a bit gimmicky (ike I said, I'd still like to do it)...
Not as gimmicky as this, though: http://runforyourlives.com/


On the surface, it DOES seem a bit gimmicky to me as well. The zombie one looks fun, and there seems to be a rash of these things popping up all over the place just this year. I wonder if it's really a new trend, or "blue car syndrome..." Either way, everyone I've talked to who's done it says that it's incredibly challenging and not for the faint of heart.

We ran a Warrior Dash (3 mile version of the Tough Mudder) earlier this year and were a bit disappointed - it was fun, don't get me wrong, but it felt like a frat party which happened to have a mud pit and some joggers. I forget who said it, but the summed up the difference as "you can do the Warrior Dash with a hangover, but to do the Tough Mudder you have to sign a Death Waiver first."

>> ^quantumushroom:

All too easy, Slapnuts.

Now deny it cause the stats don't come from SocialistWorker.org

>> ^ChaosEngine:
>> ^quantumushroom:
Drug use, rapes, murders and random deaths are in every camp, all the attendant chaos one would expect when socialists, anarchists, code pink commies and feed-the-flames libmedia descend anywhere. These protestors are not even 1% of the 99%.

Citation needed, motherfucker.



Idiots put all their links in an image, so you can't click on them and read the reports for yourself... hmm, I wonder why?? Oh, it's because there were no reported murders in the links! And no reported rapes in the links! Lesser events? Yes, a few. Completely unrelated events? Why, yes, several!

Here, for your reading pleasure, are all the links the right-wing crypto-fascist zombie airheads can come up with to marginalize the "dirty hippies" on the lawn:

Links originally from Pundit Press:

From Oregon Live: Primarily about a man who showed up at Occupy Portland, dismissed it as "an eyesore" and criticized its "lack of cohesion", and was arrested within days for starting fires. Also includes a few other accounts of minor drug posession, disorderly conduct, a weapons charge, and arrests of people for charges unrelated to the Occupy camp. Occupy Portland had a problem from near the beginning with homeless people joining the camp, and there were no services from the city or state to help them.

From Denver Post: A man who made an impassioned speech in favor of the Occupy Fort Collins camp was arrested as a suspect in an ENTIRELY UNRELATED arson charge.

From Gawker: A military veteran died of a self-inflicted gunshot, and the city used it as an excuse to halt all camping.

From Fox News: A "rash" of reports that consists of 1 accusation of sexual abuse and 1 accusation of sexual assault in Zuccotti park, 1 accusation of sex with a minor in Dallas, and 1 alleged sexual assault in Cleveland. Fox inflates this to "nearly a half-dozen" reports. The article also includes a number of unsubstantiated rumors of destructive behavior by Occupy protestors in various locations around the country.

From Komo News: A man accused of indecent exposure (completely unrelated to the Occupy movement) is arrested when spotted taking part in an Occupy Seattle protest.

From Redstate: Blantaly right-wing opinion piece which includes a number of links purportedly supporting the premise that the Occupy movement is full of criminals. The very first link is about the police entrapment on the Brooklyn Bridge. One of the links is the above piece from Komo News about an unrelated exposure charge. And another is about how Iran supports the Occupy movement (fear the boogeyman!).

From Reuters: This article is about the man shot by Berkeley police in a computer lab at UC Berkeley. No ties to the Occupy movement at all. But the Occupy protest was nearby, so it must be related, right???

From ABC News: A man is arrested for firing an assault rifle at the White House. He "may have spent time with Occupy D.C. protesters."

From The Daily Cardinal: Link broken; defaults to University of Wisconsin's Daily Cardinal homepage.

From New York Post: Article is about theives preying on the lack of security at the Occupy camp. Apparently all that police overtime is really helping...

So! All these articles, and they amount to... a few isolated issues that don't nearly account for all the numbers posted, and a couple of them are for unrelated charges where the person might have been caught in or near an Occupy event.

My overall analysis: Aside from QM being full of shit as usual, it's time to let the camps go. They made a splash, but now they are just being used as fodder for the right wing lie-machines. There are just too many unrelated crazies that come to the camps and interfere with the message. It's time to Occupy the polls, and put the energy into publicly supported legislation.

>> ^spoco2:

>> ^marbles:
>> ^spoco2:
Ha! She really got him with that last comment...
Where's marbles to arc up about vaccines then?

When you've got liberals quoting Rush Limbaugh as the authority, then you know something is seriously fucked up.

OR, if everyone INCLUDING Limbaugh admits that there is ZERO evidence for the claims then you know the claims are utter bullshit.


Ok pal. Gardasil contains aluminum, polysorbate 80 and sodium borate.

aluminum: Toxic. Linked to Alzheimer’s and Parkinson’s. Can cause memory loss and speech problems. Linked to a wide variety of other health problems. Side effects and severe allergic reactions include rash, hives, itching, difficulty breathing, tightness in the chest; swelling of the mouth, face, lips, or tongue, loss of appetite, muscle weakness, nausea, slow reflexes, and vomiting.

polysorbate 80: Carcinogenic as well as mutagenic. When injected into prepubescent rats, it caused abnormal growth of reproductive organs and made the rats sterile. When used intravenously with vitamins it has been known to cause anaphylactic shock.

sodium borate: Roach pesticide, i.e. poison. Listed side effects include: vomiting, collapse, coma, convulsions, low blood pressure and twitching of facial muscles, arms, hands, legs, and feet.


According to VAERS – the following reports have been listed for HPV, HPV2 & HPV 4 and "mental disorders." This is an estimated 1 to 10% of the vaccine-injured population reporting:

VAERS Analysis / HPV, HPV2, HPV4 – U.S. & Foreign / HPV4 U.S. Only


1. Acute Disseminated Encephalomyelitis (ADEM) / 21 / 7
   
2. Encephalitis / 53 / 27
   
3. Demyelination / 60 / 28
   
4. Psychotic Disorder / 14 / 5
   
5. Abnormal Behaviour / 49 / 41
   
6. Cognitive Disorder / 22 / 19
   
7. Mental Status Changes / 41 / 38
   
8. Nuclear Magnetic Resonance Imaging Brain Abnormal / 132 / 95
   
9. Speech Disorder / 90 / 67
   
10. Myelitis Transverse / 30 / 21
    
11. Facial Palsy / 138 / 105

@spoco2

Let me get this straight... A young kid gets vaccinated, suffers an adverse reaction to it which leads to "autism like" symptoms. And the vaccine did NOT cause autism? The kid was going to get autism anyway? Bullshit. You have no evidence to back up that position.

BTW, they can make mercury-free vaccines. So why do you statist idiots want to mandate everyone get blasted with neurotoxins?

And typical deflecting argument... you can't argue a position without blurring the debate with ad hominem static. What happened to your false analogy? Did you fart again? You must have if you thought HPV vaccines lower cervical cancer rates. And you're ignoring the unintended consequences of trying to vaccinate a relatively common STD that's usually harmless and goes away without treatment. How's that happen you say? Our body has it's own defense system that eliminates the virus. Maybe we should start vaccinating people for colds, you think? Then no one will have colds anymore!

Neil Miller: "Research has shown that when vaccines only target a small number of strains capable of causing disease, less prevalent strains can replace the targeted vaccine strains. These less prevalent strains graduate from minor factors to major influences and may even become more dangerous. Scientists are now concerned that Gardasil -- which only targets two of at least 15 different cancer-causing HPV strains -- might be allowing HPV strains previously considered minor to flourish and become major influences."

More from the article:
By February 2011, more than 20,500 adverse reaction reports pertaining to Gardasil were filed with the U.S. government -- an average of 12 reports per day [VAERS]. Nearly half of all reports required a doctor or emergency room visit, with hundreds of teenage girls and young women needing extended hospitalization.

In the case reports submitted to the FDA, 89 deaths were described due to blood clots, heart disease and other causes. In addition, many of the vaccine recipients -- young women -- were stricken with serious and life-threatening disabilities, including Guillain-Barre syndrome (paralysis), seizures, convulsions, swollen limbs, chest pain, heart irregularities, kidney failure, visual disturbances, arthritis, difficulty breathing, severe rashes, persistent vomiting, miscarriages, menstrual irregularities, reproductive complications, genital warts, vaginal lesions and HPV infection -- the main reason to vaccinate.

According to Dr. Diane Harper, director of the Gynecologic Cancer Prevention Research Group at the University of Missouri, 'The rate of serious adverse events [from Gardasil] is greater than the incidence rate of cervical cancer.' [ABC News (August 19, 2009).]

Gardasil is being promoted as 100 percent effective. However, this is a deceptive assessment of its true ability to protect against cervical cancer. Gardasil is effective against just two strains of cancer-causing HPV -- the ones included in the vaccine -- but researchers have identified at least 15 cancer-causing HPV strains!

Gardasil will not prevent infection with HPV types not contained in the vaccine. In fact, during clinical trials of the vaccine, hundreds of women who received Gardasil contracted HPV disease. Furthermore, the drug maker warns women (in its product insert) that 'vaccination does not substitute for routine cervical cancer screening.'
/source
In other words, your propaganda quote from the NCI is horseshit.

Honestly I think you stand a much larger risk of getting killed if you resist. These crooks want to take money and leave without too much fuss, they don't want to start killing people and have police chasing them around the country for murder. You pull out a firearm and start firing all over the shop (lolpun) they panic just as much as you, only they might be a better shot. Honestly the do not escalate policy is meant to protect employees at the expense of the company, after all its their shit that gets stolen.

Whether or not to fire him comes to a question of training imo. If he was made properly aware of their policy and why it exists and he still disobeyed it then I think he deseves to lose his job. If not then I think its unfair to penalise him. Why fire him? Well because not only did he endanger his own life by acting rashly, he also endangered his fellow employees and any members of the public that were nearby.

As for hijacking...come on. Way to string up a straw man there. Terrorism is SO similar to some crims trying line their pockets. Be real.

..said, one of the idiots with road rash and a concussion the next day because you decided to play chicken with a 85mph 300 mile wide Hurricane.

::shakin' mah head::

>> ^ghark:

"there's just so many ways to get killed" - yes wrap yourself in cotton wool and continue to watch your cable tv, stay safe people!

Do you raid without a helmet? Then don't skateboard without one.

Any time you're going this fast you should have a helmet. It also helps to lower your center of gravity so your body glides across the ground rather than slamming against it. Better to have a little road rash than a concussion -- or death. I have a pretty nasty scar from road rash but I've never hit my head. If you find yourself losing too much skin while longboarding, go get yourself a jacket made for absorbing the inevitable friction from sliding across the road.

>> ^marinara:
huh! purple prose. I learn something every day.
saying that republicans want to destroy the USA. rash and hysterical. don't need any crazy in political discussions.
why didn't he say they just don't care,
http://www.salon.com/news/david_sirota/2011/07/13/great_recession_elitism_slideshow/slideshow.html?slide=1
they 'know' that whatever happens, they'll still be millionaires or better.
That's a sober statement, and close to a fact.


Meh. Wanting to destroy and destroying are close to the same thing--and exactly the same outcome. Also, motives that are shady make it even closer.

That aside, it should be called, "Rapeanomics."

Just saying--because we need more hyperbole

huh! purple prose. I learn something every day.

saying that republicans want to destroy the USA. rash and hysterical. don't need any crazy in political discussions.

why didn't he say they just don't care,
http://www.salon.com/news/david_sirota/2011/07/13/great_recession_elitism_slideshow/slideshow.html?slide=1
they 'know' that whatever happens, they'll still be millionaires or better.

That's a sober statement, and close to a fact.

There has been a new rash of nyan cat vids.

*beg just so I can say this again.

also, as posted in the other talk post:


As second-class citizens P's enjoy less protections under the law and thus fewer of the privileges. Losing ones P, climbing the ranks etc. gives a citizen of siftopia the freedom of being more abusive with the language, not only because people will recognize jokes for jokes more easily, and also shows that the citizen is invested in the community. The concrete instaban was too harsh and quick, but it was done because the person banned evidently looked to be a non-contributing member of the community. On further inspection this was a rash decision by the accused. It shall be undone (has already been).

There are two lessons one must take from this.
1) if you have a P and/or you haven't been here, don't attack anyone personally in a direct and confrontational manner
2) instaban is only to be used if something is especially egregious, or if it's something that's not worth the administrators' time. Spammers in particular are the target of these.

As second-class citizens P's enjoy less protections under the law and thus fewer of the privileges. Losing ones P, climbing the ranks etc. gives a citizen of siftopia the freedom of being more abusive with the language, not only because people will recognize jokes for jokes more easily, and also shows that the citizen is invested in the community. The concrete instaban was too harsh and quick, but it was done because the person banned evidently looked to be a non-contributing member of the community. On further inspection this was a rash decision by the accused. It shall be undone (has already been).

There are two lessons one must take from this.
1) if you have a P and/or you haven't been here, don't attack anyone personally in a direct and confrontational manner
2) instaban is only to be used if something is especially egregious, or if it's something that's not worth the administrators' time. Spammers in particular are the target of these.

Yep! That's me! The hall monitor.

Glad to know that you think bk33 crossed the line. That wasn't clear before.

I completely agree with you that this rash of banning has been unpleasant. I completely agree with you that ban-hammering without discussion is wrong and destructive of a sense of good community.

What you might not know is how much I have done to un-ban folks and try to prevent bans from happening. Concrete action, done privately. And not just for the privileged elite who have been around for awhile -- I have been trying to help the sift be more welcoming towards noobies.

Where we disagree is about taking concrete action to make the sift a safe(r) place for everyone. You have a wonderfully thick skin when it comes to rough and tumble games, blankie. It is part of your charm and your humor.

But just because it is fun for you, that doesn't mean the rest of us are having such a grand old time. There needs to be space for everyone. This means some of us have to work on getting a tougher skin. Some of us need to back off from the trolling when it becomes clear that a line has been crossed and things have suddenly become ugly.

TL DR: We all have to adjust to each other, right? Isn't that what a good community does?



>> ^blankfist:

Look at me, I'm a hall monitor, and I like to invoke . Oh teacher! Oh teacher! Did you see that someone over here hasn't done their homework, teacher?!
Hey @bareboards2, I think bk33 did cross the line. I just don't think we're promoting a good community by perma-banning people every week who've been longstanding members, especially on their first offense. I think we need to take a step back from the central planning and recognize that the Sift is a generally good site with generally good people. If you want to see rampant racist comments please go check out YT.