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Pun'd at IKEA

modulous says...

No wordplay? Should I assume pun is not intended because punishment? IKEA little problem with this, so please take a seat. I have a problem with IKEA - everything in the showroom is meant to be for sale but the curtains were drawn. I have lots of jokes about IKEA, but I won't furnish Videosift with them: they're inside jokes.

Last Week Tonight with John Oliver: LGBT Discrimination

Asmo says...

Likely because race discrimination is something that lost acceptance generally a long time ago, and LGBTetc discrimination is still quasi-acceptable. I'd say that anyone who lives through a period of acceptance of the previously unacceptable experiences the dissonance between the old way of thinking vs the new.

Think about the reaction to a white guy calling someone a nigger in public vs a faggot (depending on where they do it of course). One would get a much stronger reaction than the other despite the fact they they are both offensive.

And I do tend to agree with the general cut of your post, I'd guess that most people would see discrimination against race as black and white (no pun intended), ie. it's not allowed under any circumstances, whereas discrimination re: sexuality is more of a grey (or rainbow) area.

Ultimately though, it's not like refusing to serve a disorderly customer, or refusing to employ a convicted felon. Those people are judged by the choices they make, not by who they are in the core of their being.

I really hate big government and PC bullshit, but I'm a huge fan of equality for all in the hopes of getting to a place where you don't need to legislate acceptance of people for who they are, it's just a default setting. But since that's usually a generational change, if a government is going to have anti-discrimination legislation that means anything, it should actually be across the board.

MilkmanDan said:

But I do still feel conflicted about it. Even though I know I shouldn't.

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You have no right to remain silent in Henrico County.

newtboy says...

When you say things like 'he's being a tool, and got what he was looking for' you're seeming to be making excuses for the cops. Maybe you don't MEAN to be, but you are. If you say he's a provocative tool (which I disagree with 100%) you are telling us why you think the officers had reason to go overboard. The reaction is the ONLY reason his being a tool MIGHT be relevant.
My argument is, not answering a cop's questions NEVER MAKES A PERSON A TOOL. (capatailzed because you keep missing that point).
I explained clearly and reasonably why this behavior is the only thing safeguarding your rights, and without people doing this, you've lost the rights already, because cops don't respect the law or your rights, as happened here.
The cops are the only assholes here, and not even within their legal rights. Get it straight. The videographer is so respectful he even calmly explains why he won't answer questions, for the cops' benefit since they seem confused about the law.
You brought up the 'watch list' for nothing, I explained how your example shows the uselessness of the 'watch list' because people who make a cop upset get put on it.
OK, once again, the cops were 100% in the wrong, the videographer is a hero 100% in the right who is NOT an asshole for standing on his legal rights, not an asshole for filming adults in public, and not an asshole for not engaging in conversation with a tool (pun intended) of the state. I think people who would say someone safely, reasonably, and respectfully standing up for their, and your, rights is an asshole are the EDIT: one's who are mistaken, the ones with a serious case of cranial rectosis...and one's that don't think things through very well.

EDIT: Do you realize that your position is 'it's these assholes that force the police to recognize their rights by exercising them that cause laws removing your rights to be written'....yet you ignore that those rights are already gone if no one can exercise them?

Babymech said:

Yeah, I'm a little disappointed by the unnecessary misquotes and 'making up arguments' myself, sort of kills the debate. I never made excuses for the cops, and I always agreed they were in the wrong. I never said Hammond was a threat to anyone, or that I felt threatened by filming.

What I have been saying, again and again, is that he can be a tool for intentionally trying to provoke this reaction, even if the cops are completely wrong. It's not a discussion about whether or not his action was legal, but you keep on bringing up the cops reaction as though that is relevant. Which makes it sound as though your arguing: "as long as what he did was legal, he can't be a tool for doing it." Which I disagree with; see also 'open carry' protests etc.

As for what effect the first amendment audits will have on legislation, I imagine it'll be a similar scenario as when corporations exploit tax loopholes. Once somebody comes up with a clever way to remain within their legal rights but still act like an asshole, the system tries to evolve to close those loopholes. I'm all for trying to steer the system in the right direction, but I'm not going to applaud those exploiting loopholes to act like assholes.

As for the strange argument about the watch list, I don't know what you're trying to say - I already told you he's on the list and that I don't think that necessarily means anything. What more did you want to say about that?

Are you going to get back to, again, the fact that the cops were in the wrong? I think we haven't explored that angle yet, let's try going over it three or four times more.

"Cum-aoke" - (EXTREMELY NSFW Japanese Game Show)

SDGundamX says...

A bit more on this show... I found their YouTube channel, which has a couple of full episodes. It is quite clearly an adult late-night show. They interview up-and-coming (pun intended) Japanese porn actors and actresses, do sexy skits with them, and play racy games like the one shown above. It's mostly just advertising for the Japanese porn industry.

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John Ramsey - The Russian History Poop Joke

Jon Stewart on Charleston Terrorist Attack

scheherazade says...

This was also not the only man involved, and not the only concern that applied. This quote is his, not that of half a nation.

While I agree that the south had racist and white supremacist behaviors, I simply point out that the north was little better.

Both were plenty racist, and both cared a lot more about their money/power than they did about slaves. Rich white people in charge today don't give 2 shits about poor black people, I find it very unlikely that the rich white people in charge way back then cared any more.

Let me illustrate the 'champion of liberty' spin with an unrelated example :
Take the ww2 pacific theater for example. Japan teaches WW2 as a war to free Asia from western colonialism. U.S. teaches WW2 (pacific) as a war to free Asia from imperial expansion and oppression by Japan. Both are telling the truth, and both are full of crap. For neither was altruistic in their motivations, but both spin themselves as champions of liberty. For you will always have people on your side if you tell them you are standing up for liberty. (A concept well illustrated in The Prince - one of the earlier 'game theory' (from before it was called that) studies of governance.)

On a side note,

Keep in mind that slaves from Africa were usually purchased from black slavers.

And just a few generations ago, my own great grandparent's era, they and their peers were white peasant property of local white counts.

Things are not really all that 'black and white' (no pun intended).

-scheherazade

radx said:

Let me quote the Vice President of the Confederate States, March 21st, 1861:

"The new constitution has put at rest, forever, all the agitating questions relating to our peculiar institution African slavery as it exists amongst us the proper status of the negro in our form of civilization. This was the immediate cause of the late rupture and present revolution."

(...)

"Our new government is founded upon exactly the opposite idea; its foundations are laid, its corner- stone rests, upon the great truth that the negro is not equal to the white man; that slavery subordination to the superior race is his natural and normal condition. This, our new government, is the first, in the history of the world, based upon this great physical, philosophical, and moral truth."

That's white supremacy. That's white supremacy and then some.

Talk about threading the needle, tire style

How Not To Rescue A Sheep

Nephelimdream says...

That's not how ewe do it? Gotta tenderize that meat before it goes baa'd. Don't be like all the sheeple, use sheer force. I'm grazing these puns, it that how you wool'd do it?

/takes lap

Get Well Soon

eric3579 (Member Profile)

radx says...

https://twitter.com/sammaule/status/596825146184355841 (via NC comment section)

Clever indeed. And oh so depressing.

A comment further down put the cherry on top, invoking the Drowned God: "what is debt may never die."

As a nerd and ASoIaF-aficionado, I have to tip my hat. Credit where credit is due, that's a wonderfully depressing pun, given the legal status of student debt.

“Desert Goddess” Remembers Arizona’s Glen Canyon

newtboy says...

The highly specialized, unique ecosystems that existed there are gone forever.
...and many of the gorgeous slot canyons (pun intended) are permanently filled in with silt.

zaust said:

Not sure how this is permanently destroyed by being underwater for 60 years. Yes some human artefacts may be gone but if they knocked that damn down now I'm pretty positive the rocks won't have changed much.

TIE Fighter - Epic Anime short - Go Empire!!

Payback says...

The pilots still believe in the Empire as a force (no pun intended) for civilization and protection from anarchy...

...and the officers have seen behind the curtain.

ChaosEngine said:

Why is it that while TIE Fighter pilots are relatively sympathetic, Imperial officers are, without exception, douchebags?

This time, it's personal...It's Peeback time...



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