yes. really.
it was fucking bizarre.
and it preyed on a disenfranchised subculture. really i never go the whole punk rock evangelical christian thing. at all. not that youre not entitled to your own personal belief set and spirituality. its the bizare group think evangelical part that doesn seem to mix well. but whatever. i thought it was funny that the sermon was all about zombies basically.

i dont know, i was raised mormon and never saw anything nearly as bizarre there as i have seen in these hip rock band power point churches. like catholics, mormon services are very reverent and ceremonial and traditional. they also dont have like one guy that talks all the time. the congregation all take turns giving talks and running the service. and theres no paid clergy. say what you want about the mormons, their beliefs are full of shit and the dogma has hurt alot of people close to me. but the services are tasteful and frugal at least. and they dont get into the wierd shit until youre a high preist and going to temple. and until the recent funding of anti gay marriage propaganda i had pretty much no problems with how they spent and dealt with tithing.

i also totally thought going to mass with my catholic stepmom was a hoot.



In reply to this comment by JiggaJonson:
I dont want to sound offensive but...really? I mean, really?

I had a girlfriend who was an evangelical and wanted me to convert, I went to church with her thinking it couldn't be too different from my somewhat traditional catholic upbringing. When services started we watched clips from The Passion of the Christ and then discussed how to get tickets for 5-10 minutes. Then the pastor rode in on a harley and we watched clips from Orange County Choppers. The episode was about the motorcycle guys teaching kids about how to work on motorcycles and the sermon was all about why it is so important to start your kids off learning about jesus early on. Then the full band roared into action (two drum sets, three guitars, several singers and a few horns) followed briefly by collection (I'm assuming to pay for the big screen tvs and projectors in the room, not to mention the band and the Harley) and then a Passion ticket raffle.

We left and my g/f at the time described how great it was that the church could get a message out that people today could relate to. I was going through my head thinking about how much everything must have cost for that one session (poverty, chastity and faith right??) and getting reamed out by her for not waving my arms back and forth in 'praise' when they were singing.

So, not that I dont believe you or anything but, damn, the things some people do.

fyi that whole incident above happened when i was struggling with disbelief I was feeling which only made things weirder.

In reply to this comment by peggedbea:
my exhusband was/is severely mentally ill. when all else failed, one of his doctors recommended going to church. at that point we would have done anything . she recommended a church that catered to punk rockish young adults, which i suppose we were. so..... we went. they were all very nice of course, the church was called "deliverance" and we had to make jokes about how fucking creepy that is. it was in a dead, run down shopping center from the early 80s. it looked like a tattoo studio from the outside, with tattoo'd up skateboarding young punks seemingly loitering outside. at 21 and 29 we were probably the oldest people there.

sooo.... the pastor comes out. the sermon that day is about raising the dead. and how if jesus could do it and he was a man, then we could do it too!!! everyones homework was to heal the sick and raise the dead. FOCUS ALL YOUR ENERGY ON RAISING THE DEAD!!!!!!! then he played a 45 minute long guitar solo which made all the kids raise their arms or rock back and forth on the floor. also everyone HAD to give all their money, if they didnt raise $10,000 that week the church would be shut down, so give all your money then go home and get money from your parents.

soooooo we were of course highly fucking offended by everything that went on there. and besides that, a medical doctor prescribed a church sermon about raising the dead to mental patient with psychotic features. WTF?!?! i wont even get into all the hundreds of ways that could have gone terribly wrong.
luckily my husband hated religion even more than i do and knew damn well that was 100% bullshit and not license to go on a fucking zombie hunt with his machete or something.

something is terribly wrong.

I dont want to sound offensive but...really? I mean, really?

I had a girlfriend who was an evangelical and wanted me to convert, I went to church with her thinking it couldn't be too different from my somewhat traditional catholic upbringing. When services started we watched clips from The Passion of the Christ and then discussed how to get tickets for 5-10 minutes. Then the pastor rode in on a harley and we watched clips from Orange County Choppers. The episode was about the motorcycle guys teaching kids about how to work on motorcycles and the sermon was all about why it is so important to start your kids off learning about jesus early on. Then the full band roared into action (two drum sets, three guitars, several singers and a few horns) followed briefly by collection (I'm assuming to pay for the big screen tvs and projectors in the room, not to mention the band and the Harley) and then a Passion ticket raffle.

We left and my g/f at the time described how great it was that the church could get a message out that people today could relate to. I was going through my head thinking about how much everything must have cost for that one session (poverty, chastity and faith right??) and getting reamed out by her for not waving my arms back and forth in 'praise' when they were singing.

So, not that I dont believe you or anything but, damn, the things some people do.

fyi that whole incident above happened when i was struggling with disbelief I was feeling which only made things weirder.

In reply to this comment by peggedbea:
my exhusband was/is severely mentally ill. when all else failed, one of his doctors recommended going to church. at that point we would have done anything . she recommended a church that catered to punk rockish young adults, which i suppose we were. so..... we went. they were all very nice of course, the church was called "deliverance" and we had to make jokes about how fucking creepy that is. it was in a dead, run down shopping center from the early 80s. it looked like a tattoo studio from the outside, with tattoo'd up skateboarding young punks seemingly loitering outside. at 21 and 29 we were probably the oldest people there.

sooo.... the pastor comes out. the sermon that day is about raising the dead. and how if jesus could do it and he was a man, then we could do it too!!! everyones homework was to heal the sick and raise the dead. FOCUS ALL YOUR ENERGY ON RAISING THE DEAD!!!!!!! then he played a 45 minute long guitar solo which made all the kids raise their arms or rock back and forth on the floor. also everyone HAD to give all their money, if they didnt raise $10,000 that week the church would be shut down, so give all your money then go home and get money from your parents.

soooooo we were of course highly fucking offended by everything that went on there. and besides that, a medical doctor prescribed a church sermon about raising the dead to mental patient with psychotic features. WTF?!?! i wont even get into all the hundreds of ways that could have gone terribly wrong.
luckily my husband hated religion even more than i do and knew damn well that was 100% bullshit and not license to go on a fucking zombie hunt with his machete or something.

something is terribly wrong.

That black belt was a pussy. What they did to that man was despicable. Even in street fights, people know when to call the fight, and usually the crowd wants to make sure no one has to be sent to the hospital.

These assholes have probably gone on to have happy, productive lives, with families, jobs, vacations, weddings, and all the other joyous occasions we all want to enjoy in life. I wish I could go back in time to every happy moment those fucktards had in their lives since 1984 and play this video on a projector, just to constantly remind them of what they did (or allowed to happen).

And I know "violence is never the answer", but I wouldn't mind taking on that pussy black belt and teaching him a thing or 2 about a thing or 2. He wouldn't last 5 minutes where I grew up.

The two things about projectors (even current mini ones on the market) that I still worry about are heat and battery use.

I wonder how much battery this things sucks and, more importantly, how it manages the heat created by the projector. Is there a fan and/or heat vent. Because I sure didn't see one in this review.

>> ^Raaagh:
is it just me or is 399 quite a premium?


It's a fair bit, but way less than I would have expected for the FIRST of this type. The price is only going to come down from here. Usually the first with some leading edge tech is ludicrously expensive... this is only expensive in my eyes, not crazily so.

^ Definitely, the shadow is what makes it. Their light balance is excellent too — those must be some powerful projectors.

And, to add to Demon's litany, not a single person is watching the show. If I saw such a display as I was riding my bike by I'd stop, or at least GLANCE at it!

And part 2, no projector can compensate for the variation in colouration of the screen the way it would have to for this to be real, black parts of the building would be darker and white parts lighter, shiny surfaces would interact with the lights differently from dull ones.

Looks more like some after-effects edit than projections to me.

At 2:12, on the top-left part of the building, the water effect is "leaking" outside the actual surface of the building towers and lighting up some of the open air there.

At 2:18 the water effect at the bottom-left is covering the heads of two people walking there, without creating any noticeable black shadows on the building.

Also, I would love to see the projector that could create such a fantastically accurate and HD image on a building that size, consistently, without any effect from local lighting, and from that kind of distance.

http://www.videosift.com/video/Dirty-Projectors-Stillness-is-the-Move MAJOR LLAMA CAMEO

second best thing to war in real life!~

just a god damn impressive game... but i want an experience upgrade... a home projector 180 deg unit, like the jet fighter sim...

when shit looks this good, i might as well just go outside! keep me inside companies!

geeeez... my heart goes out to that poor projector.

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Trippy. At about 50 seconds in, you experience yourself looking at a computer screen, on which is someone's head in a dark room looking at a projector screen, on which is the girl looking at the camcorder screen, on which is the dvd video on the tv screen.

Dat be sohm Twilight Zone sheet ray' derr, mon.

A camcorder recording a projector showing a camcorder recording a TV. Nice.

Brb. Going to record my monitor with my camcorder and upload it encouraging other people to camcorder it. I wonder how many copies it will take to just become a video of noise? It would probably still make more sense than the original.

my first rock'n'roll memory: I'm 5 years old and I live on a farm with my granny and grandpa. our closest neighbors have a son, he's some 12 years older than me. he's like an older brother to me. it's sunday afternoon and I go over to his house to persuade him to take me trout fishing. instead, I find myself in a darkened room with half a dozen weird looking boys staring at the square of bright light on the far wall, slowly sipping from their beer bottles in anticipation. some of them have extremely long hair, which I find odd. some of them are also smoking, which I can't stand. I want to leave but then I see the projector. I've never been to the movies before. then my neighbor comes in with a reel of 16mm tape. he does something magical to the machine and suddenly, as the sound floods the place, I notice huge speakers nested on either side of white linen sheet that acts as a screen. the picture is bad, dark and grainy, but it's the most fascinating thing I've ever seen. I hear names whispered in the dark as the faces on the screen come and go off stage. strange, foreign names like "Jimi", "Janis" and "Joe" ...

guessed it yet? yes, it was the Woodstock tapes, and I'm addicted ever since