>> ^Skeeve: The conclusions of the LHP are that we should stop eating poultry and eat ruminant animals (cow, goat, sheep, deer, etc.). Reasonable estimates are that we would kill about 0.982 billion animals per year. Less than in the vegan alternative of 1.2 billion.

This math only works in some magical fairy land where cows do their own grazing. When was the last time you bought grass-fed beef? It's rare, and expensive. Industrially raised cattle eat industrially grown grains, same as the poultry, and humans, but cows eat more of them per pound of edible protein produced.

If they are going to use grass-fed cattle numbers, then they need to use biodynamic/no-till farming for the vegan side. This smells of cooked books to me.

>> ^dag:
Humans can get by just fine without animal proteins. And as the literature at my local Hari Krishna restaurant says- you could feed the entire world 7 times over if the crops devoted to livestock feed were instead used for human food production.


I already referenced the Least Harm Principle. "So, every time the tractor goes through the field to plow, disc, cultivate, apply fertilizer and/or pesticide, harvest, etc., animals are killed. And, intensive agriculture such as corn and soybeans (products central to a vegan diet) kills far more animals of the field than would extensive agriculture like forage production, particularly if the forage was harvested by ruminant animals instead of machines."

The conclusions of the LHP are that we should stop eating poultry and eat ruminant animals (cow, goat, sheep, deer, etc.). Reasonable estimates are that we would kill about 0.982 billion animals per year. Less than in the vegan alternative of 1.2 billion. (See: Davis, Steven L. "The Least Harm Principle May Require that Humans Consume a Diet Containing Large Herbivores, Not a Vegan Diet" in Journal of Agricultural and Environmental Ethics Vol. 16 No 4 July 2003.)

>> ^blankfist
Second, you need to eat less carbs. A low carb diet will slow you down for the first week or so as your body goes through keitosis.

I find it quite interesting that we have not only the same (correct ) views on political systems, economic systems, and human rights...but we have the same view on nutritional science. If I had to guess, I would say it must be the personality trait of "intellectual curiosity."

I digress...

rottenseed - take it from me, your friendly libertarian free-market economist nutritional scientist,

You are tired because you are
1. Not sleeping well
2. Not eating well
3. Overexerting yourself
4. Chemically/Biologically flawed

I'm going to take a guess and say 3 and 4 aren't the case, so heres my advice:

To improve sleep:
- Double check the sleep apnea (do you breath through your nose or mouth when sleeping?)
- Do you wake up throughout the night? Even if you are in bed for 8 hours, if you keep waking up you aren't getting good sleep. Try sleeping in a pitch black room - it will help you sleep soundly throughout the night.

To improve nutrition:
- I'm guessing you are on the typical American diet, 70/20/10 Carbs/Protein/Fat aka the fast track to diabetes, heart disease and cancer. While the long term side effect of this diet are quite fatal, the short term side effects aren't so great either: lethargy and lack of energy.
- Food is the most powerful drug known to man. The advice I'm about to give you will not only extent your life, it will increase your energy and happiness while you are alive. Heed this advice for even a single week and you will literally feel better than you ever have in your life:

1. Try not to buy anything with a nutritional label - so avoid flour, sugar, bread, rice, cereal, baked goods any thing which has a "Daily recommended value" listed on it.
2. Shop only on the outside walls of the supermarket. This means fresh fruit, vegetables, nuts, beef, poultry, pork, and seafood.
3. Eat these foods 3-4 times a day in approximately the following ratios:

Meat: One serving the size and thickness of your palm
Vegetables/Fruits: One serving equal to what you can hold on both hands
Nuts/Fat: One serving equal to the size of your thumb

These are helpful guidelines, what you are aiming for is increase your dietary intake of protein to induce ketosis with sources such as fresh meat and poultry, increase your intake of monounsaturated fats with sources like olive oil, avocados, and nuts, and replace the glucose-spiking refined carbohydrates prevalent in an American diet with high-vitamin, low GI carbohydrates such as fresh fruits and vegetables.

Try this for even 3 days, and you'll see a massive difference.

Breakfast
Bacon
Fresh cantaloupe and watermelon
Smoked Almonds

Lunch
Black Forest Ham
Mixed fruit (blueberries, strawberries, kiwi, pineapple, grapes)
Avocado
Feta cheese

Dinner
16 oz grilled rib-eye steak
Asparagus
Green beans
Brazil nuts

final credits i realized how much poultry has been wronged by humanity

Also relatively intense pig/poultry farming by small farmers (high concentration of pigs, chickens, people on a small piece of land) could have lead to the current outbreak of flu..
Fewer and fewer places are remote
http://www.newscientist.com/data/images/ns/cms/mg20227041.500/mg20227041.500-1_1000.jpg
Contacts are on the increase, which leads to higher viral risks.

I cant believe I forgot about that....

I shall now brood over it.

HAHA

In reply to this comment by srd:
I can't honestly say. I feel primed.

In reply to this comment by NordlichReiter:
Turkey? Bird? Or country? If poultry I like good turkey, smoked.

In reply to this comment by srd:
Turkey.

I can't honestly say. I feel primed.

In reply to this comment by NordlichReiter:
Turkey? Bird? Or country? If poultry I like good turkey, smoked.

In reply to this comment by srd:
Turkey.

Turkey? Bird? Or country? If poultry I like good turkey, smoked.

In reply to this comment by srd:
Turkey.

*promote the devious poultry pusher and his non-existent military rank

is the trend harrassing anderson cooper? or is it showing up at natural disasters dressed as poultry? perhaps it is simply a drive by chickening at any opportune time? define the trend, the name will come.

They should do this to animals used for food before they are slaughtered. I heard we eat our bad karma in the form of animal adrenaline in our meat because our cattle/poultry/pork freaks out before being executed. Not that our real karma would be any better, at least we wouldn't be able to taste it...

2 questions mink:

Have you ever tasted a fresh kill? Be it deer, rabbit, trout, or whatever? Believe me, there is nothing like it.

Do you think your choice of diet will have any effect on worldwide farming industry? Seriously? The cattle and poultry industries are fucked in a dozen ways from sunday. But your individual dietary choice has absolutely zero effect on them. If you want to change the dietary habits of our species, there are far more effective measures than changing your personal diet (and telling others about it).

my15 already noted the irony of your choice due to an incident with shellfish (was it even farmed?), so I'll only mention it in passing.

The take home message is - eat what you want and what makes you feel good. If you want to change an industry (in the U.S.), hire a lobby firm. Your personal boycott will do nothing to change the status quo.

Thanks for the promote little kitty, you rock the socks!

In reply to this comment by Issykitty:
*promote George Costanza!

NP!

In reply to this comment by Crosswords:
Thanks for the promote!

In reply to this comment by calvados:
*promote!

Thanks for the promote!

In reply to this comment by calvados:
*promote!