""Since 2 of those 3 [religions] have already internally dealt with the most horrendous of their ideas"

Now that is fucking funny, and the crux of Sam Harris's ignorance"

To think that they haven't, it would seem to me, is to be either forgetful, or ignorant of their pasts and just how horribly they behaved.

To pretend that you've made a point by sneering dismissively is just juvenile. Explain your stance.

The wholesale, unabashed genocides in the old testament seem to me to be more horrible than anything that jews are doing, for religious reasons in the present day. And that is taking Israel into account.

The picketing of soldier's funerals seems altogether less bad than the spanish inquisition.

It's not to say that Judaism and Christianity don't still have some work to do. Of course they do. But they've already climbed quite a distance.

Turn up your resolution and you'll see there's a fence of (likely) electrified wires keeping them far from the white picket fence, which is only good for keeping well behaved humans back.
...and I think you meant to say 'I hardly THINK...' or 'I doubt...', because 'I hardly doubt' means you believe a thing.

I hardly doubt that white picket fence could keep those elephants in if they wanted out.

Long time Silvercord-I must take issue with the loaded prelude, " In the climate of abduction and human trafficking today" ok for these reasons.

No widespread prevalence of the same is evidenced in anything but loaded stats and news orgs continually pumping fear and hatred into the minds of the weak.

Also, using the same loaded words the news-bobbles use well, it simply shows that the programming you've consumed all these years dutifully, is effective and perpetual.

Abduction happens pf course, it's perpetuated by illegals, gang-members, career criminals, CIA(and other such initialed criminals)...It only happens because dumb asses have let the country become an institution of creating slaves and criminals of average humans programmed through dire environments, SPECIFICALLY the environment of fear and helplessness fostered by the people (sub-human garbage) posing as leaders.

Who let the country turn into shit? Everyone who voted because it "felt" right and then spent their civil disobedience tickets on bitching istead of doing something tangible about it outside of the approved means of protest.

Like voting-in wildcards, picketing senator's homes and offices, withdrawing $$ from the worst of offenders...ETC.

HIstorys' a motherfucker.

Children need one year of 'teaching' max, and that is for rudimentary math and learning to read. The rest of 'schooling' should simply be providing them with the proper, quiet, conditions to self-educate. It's called Autodidacticism. Look it up. Every child is born with it, but adults do their best to eliminate it through forced, 24/7 entertainment from the crib to the campus.

Here's a curriculum that needs no teacher (there are many others):
http://www.robinsoncurriculum.com/

Having no time is absolutely no excuse for failing to homeschool. Anyone want to picket your local school with a sign that says "DROP OUT OF SCHOOL FOREVER!" :-D

Apparently the Westboro Baptist Church are now planni
ng to picket the school.

In response, Anonymous has said they are going to dismantle the WBC.

*related=http://videosift.com/video/Anonymous-Message-To-The-Westboro-Baptist-Church

>> ^Yogi:

>> ^ChaosEngine:
I agree. Voltaire, free speech and all that. No-one should be murdered for their opinions.
That said, the rule is freedom of speech, not freedom of consequences from speech. You're free to call your boss a turd and he's free to fire your ass for it.
So with that in mind, I propose a compromise. No-one at the WBC gets murdered, but the next time they picket a funeral, a bunch of marines kick the crap outta them.
>> ^EMPIRE:
Yogi, they're fucking terrible, but unfortunately it's their right to be fucking awful.

edit: also am I the only one who really doesn't like Russell Brands comedy? It's childish, and I don't mean that it's juvenile, I mean its actually the kind of comedy an 8 year old would do at a school talent day.

People are murdered for their opinions every day. A lot of times they're brown people, in other countries who are just fighting for their freedom from oppression and someone who is US Backed kills them. I'm just saying we should bring some of the terror we export home, and even the score up a bit.


Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think Yogi is saying we should murder them for their opinion, but simply for our convenience. Shit, Americans do that all the time.

>> ^ChaosEngine:

I agree. Voltaire, free speech and all that. No-one should be murdered for their opinions.
That said, the rule is freedom of speech, not freedom of consequences from speech. You're free to call your boss a turd and he's free to fire your ass for it.
So with that in mind, I propose a compromise. No-one at the WBC gets murdered, but the next time they picket a funeral, a bunch of marines kick the crap outta them.
>> ^EMPIRE:
Yogi, they're fucking terrible, but unfortunately it's their right to be fucking awful.

edit: also am I the only one who really doesn't like Russell Brands comedy? It's childish, and I don't mean that it's juvenile, I mean its actually the kind of comedy an 8 year old would do at a school talent day.


People are murdered for their opinions every day. A lot of times they're brown people, in other countries who are just fighting for their freedom from oppression and someone who is US Backed kills them. I'm just saying we should bring some of the terror we export home, and even the score up a bit.

I agree. Voltaire, free speech and all that. No-one should be murdered for their opinions.

That said, the rule is freedom of speech, not freedom of consequences from speech. You're free to call your boss a turd and he's free to fire your ass for it.

So with that in mind, I propose a compromise. No-one at the WBC gets murdered, but the next time they picket a funeral, a bunch of marines kick the crap outta them.

>> ^EMPIRE:

Yogi, they're fucking terrible, but unfortunately it's their right to be fucking awful.


edit: also am I the only one who really doesn't like Russell Brands comedy? It's childish, and I don't mean that it's juvenile, I mean its actually the kind of comedy an 8 year old would do at a school talent day.

>> ^Gutspiller:

"I don't feel like a criminal."
Yeah, neither did Hitler. Somebodies been smokin' a wee bit.
You don't have to feel like a criminal to be considered a criminal.
If you're going to picket a cause, at least do it with some proper thinking behind your words.


there is a slight difference between this guy and hitler. ok?

the idea behind his words gets to the core issue: violence to another is criminal, is knowingly criminal, and FEELS fucking criminal. growing a plant is not. nor is caring for the sick.

"I don't feel like a criminal."

Yeah, neither did Hitler. Somebodies been smokin' a wee bit.

You don't have to feel like a criminal to be considered a criminal.

If you're going to picket a cause, at least do it with some proper thinking behind your words.

16:20 - I would be interested in seeing the complete category list for whichever governing body or organization bestows an award for taking five loads on the face.

Btw, Monté... no, she's not a whore. Not at all. And neither are you for sticking around for the money and nice clothes. After all, it's just a job, right? Just a job. Temporary. It's just what she does NOW. I see a bright future for you both as a couple. Country home, white picket fence, two dogs, cat, kids. Grandkids spending Christmas with you and grandma Cagney some number of years from now, the whole setting right out of Rockwell's brain. The Christmas tree you all went and cut down yourselves, tied to the roof of the station wagon, mounted to a stand you made out of 2x4s and an old sign, decorated with ornaments you and your wife collected over decades and popcorn strung buy the children, a roaring fire in the fireplace (a wonderful necessity since moving from Cali to Montana), four stockings hung over it with names lovingly embroidered in gold by grandma Cagney, and there, atop the mantel, grandma's award for Best Multiple Cumshots to The Face Scene. Can't you just smell the chestnuts?

I'm coming hard for Friday.
Like a pedophile
At his computer desk
Watching Rebecca smile.
I go the extra mile.
The marathon's 27th mile.
Then I hit the ice cold beverage isle.
I got a cast-iron liver.
And I would rather drown my sorrows
Than cry a river.
I use my brain like you
Use a plain flight ticket.
Now I'm in a place
Where all the fences are white picket.
The only way it might get disturbing
Is if you're bothered by the sound
Of light cricket chirping.
I just let in soak in like Robatussen.
And about the fast-paced rap race
There's no discussion.
I'm just trying to get into the proper mood.
Remix of everyday life, chopped and screwed.
What can I do to get the weekdays behind me?
Watsky, remind me.
Thank you, kindly.

Kick Monday in the nutsack.
Wedgie Wednesday's buttcrack.
I'm coming hard for Friday.
And if you're not, get the fuck back. (x2)

Compared to my old testicles, hecka small.
Mine crack walls, like a wrecking ball.
While my checkered drawls fall y'all's yornaments.
Fear for a porno flick.
Time to deck the halls.
I'm glad it's all finished.
The week is all bidness.
But now I'm chilling, sprawled out
With a tall Guinness.
I'm gonna set the world record
For the funnest time ever
Had on the planet.
So everybody call Guinness.
I swear a lot.
This ain't Fisher-Price.
If I'm a bad influence
Then here's the great advice:
Kids! Don't be a dickweed!
Appreciate the shit out of the present moment
And be fucking nice!
I whistle weird for the tune of it.
If they all did, it'd ruin it.
We spent two months on this here
Bluegrass-folk rock-hip hop album
Because we really felt like doing it.
So everybody...

Kick Monday in the nutsack.
Wedgie Wednesday's buttcrack.
I'm coming hard for Friday.
And if you're not, get the fuck back. (x2)

I'm an Amurican.
I put my work in.
And when work's done
It's time for perking.
Hey, let's invite the vultures down to have a drink.
They must be getting tired doing all the circling.
Cause it's the world's end.
We're overheatelated!
And, from what I hear,
We're also overpeopleated!
So, there's no room.
So, we'll all explode soon.
Let's get abbreviated
And forget what we created.
So I've been thinking
We should have a big party
For all humans, and even women.
For the dumb Southeners, and the lazy Mexicans.
The A-rabs, and the coloreds, and their peckers and
The cheap Jews, which is me, too!
I'll even treat you!
But, just this once, cause nothing's free, dude.
And when the fiery end comes
We'll burn up quicker.
Cause we're full of liquor.
So everybody

Kick Monday in the nutsack.

I like how lazy his picket sign looks lol. I mean really you just used a ball point pen on a piece of cardboard and expect anyone to actually be able to read the thing. Come on man how cheap is this guy he can't afford a $1 sharpie at least. LMAO!

On the plus side, he's getting some exercise walking the picket line =oI