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VACCINES DO NOT WORK THAT WAY! Goodnight.

>> ^Yogi:

What about all the superbugs that vaccines are now responsible for? What I don't like about Penn and Teller's Bullshit, is when they pick a subject they choose what they want to talk about too narrowly. It's like the point of this show isn't to educate but to lash out at those who make some false claims...it's missing the script completely.


>> ^Yogi:

Soooo Vaccinations are perfect? I don't buy it....even penicillin is coming back to bite us in the ass.
EDIT: I should point out that I never got vaccinations and I'm healthy as a horse...a horse thats very healthy.

What about all the superbugs that vaccines are now responsible for? What I don't like about Penn and Teller's Bullshit, is when they pick a subject they choose what they want to talk about too narrowly. It's like the point of this show isn't to educate but to lash out at those who make some false claims...it's missing the script completely.

>> ^coolhund:

They dont actually keep us sick, but they keep us close.
For example here in Germany its much more profitable to dish out cheap drugs than to actually try to heal with other options.
Some, not all, exploit this. Its actually common knowledge. For example dentists use low quality fillings so that people have to come more often or doctors use drugs first on any case, so they can get more money from the patient.
I have to say its mainly here in Germany because of our 2-class health system which has many holes, but I could very well imagine its not much different elsewhere.
For example the 2-class system allows doctors to treat one of the class with significantly less effective methods, because the effective methods are more expensive. Also they arent allowed to treat too many people of the lower class. Well they are allowed, but they only get money for a certain number. If they exceed that number they dont get money for the ones that are over that number. So they try to stall them until a new months starts or just give them drugs that wont help (they get money for prescribing drugs).
That has nothing to do with doctors trying to heal people. Its all about the money.
You just have to look at the sheer numbers of pharmacies in this country. Even in very small towns its common that there are 3-5 of them in the same street. They make a lot of money from these practices.
If there is a possibility to exploit something and get money from it, people WILL use those exploits.
Oh and I didnt get that from the Internet, I got it from personal experience in both classes, statistics that are openly available plus my brother actually works in a pharmaceutical firm.


Everything in the below stated comment is a product of a shitty system, not shitty doctors. Blame your politicians.

>> ^blankfist:

"I don't care what they say; that's the way I feel about it."
Man, that's exactly where ignorance begins, with feeling a certain way that makes you comfortable in spite of fact.


Mixed in with confirmation bias, what could go wrong?!

I love Penn and Teller. I've been an amateur magician most of my life. What gets me about them, is their magic acts are usually pretty basic, easy to replicate, and can be found in just about any book of magic on any store shelf. What makes them special, though, is their presence and showmanship. If these two were boring individuals, nobody would care about any magic act they ever performed.

I for one think it's good and useful to have manners. It's about being considerate. The way Penn and Teller ridicule the teacher lady is un-called for.

>> ^NordlichReiter:
Was that James Randi in one of the chairs?


yah lol just noticed that was like WTF lol

whats funny is the fact he looks the same age as he dose now , he is like 10,000 years old

Dont try to shove information down his throat (in my personal experience that doesn't work often)
instead hammer your point home with questions
"If god is a perfect being why did he create someone/something as insignificant as me?"
"How can free will exist if god already knows what I am going to do? If free will doesn't exist am I responsible for any of my actions or are they part of a predetermined fate?"
"What are some of the characteristics of god? or in other words how do YOU define what god is? How does that differ from the biblical definition?"
I can go on and on and on but i wont right now

You may want to watch Penn and Teller's show Bullshit, they did an episode on the bible that provides some good ammunition.

my personal favorite question fyi: "If god did not exist, and the world and intelligent life (including the development of mythology) were created out of natural processes, how would your life be different right now?"
That usually gets them pondering.

In reply to this comment by dag:
Give me some suggestions on how I can convert this lost sheep and bring him to the light.

>> ^LordOderus:
>> ^StukaFox:
Fuck Penn and Teller's "Bullshit" -- their show IS bullshit. It's a bunch of Libertarian crap being fobbed off as a "neutral" opinion. Look up the sources they use on the show and you'll find example after example of corporate shills, Randist loons and far-right front groups. On occasion, they accidentally do a good show (the death penalty show and the one about video games were both balanced), but the rest of the time their show is nothing but a smoke-screen for Penn's wacked-out political views.

When, in any episode, has Penn ever said that their show is "neutral"? They almost always have a very obvious opinion about the subject matter of an episode, and they clearly point it out. The show isn't about debate and contrast between two sides. It's about them calling out things that they believe are Bullshit. So while I agree with you that they are very one sided (and usually very liberal) you can't hold it against them. That's what the show is. If they presented themselves as a fair and balanced debate show, or the news, and were still blatantly one sided coughFOXcough then that would be something to criticize.


hhehehe cause CNN and MSNBC are totally neutral! All network news is dead to true journalism. That is why I just listen to the voices in my head...MUAHAHAHAH

(I might of consumed far to much sugar today)

>> ^StukaFox:
Fuck Penn and Teller's "Bullshit" -- their show IS bullshit. It's a bunch of Libertarian crap being fobbed off as a "neutral" opinion. Look up the sources they use on the show and you'll find example after example of corporate shills, Randist loons and far-right front groups. On occasion, they accidentally do a good show (the death penalty show and the one about video games were both balanced), but the rest of the time their show is nothing but a smoke-screen for Penn's wacked-out political views.


When, in any episode, has Penn ever said that their show is "neutral"? They almost always have a very obvious opinion about the subject matter of an episode, and they clearly point it out. The show isn't about debate and contrast between two sides. It's about them calling out things that they believe are Bullshit. So while I agree with you that they are very one sided (and usually very liberal) you can't hold it against them. That's what the show is. If they presented themselves as a fair and balanced debate show, or the news, and were still blatantly one sided *coughFOXcough* then that would be something to criticize.

They also did it on Letterman, ages ago.
http://www.videosift.com/video/Penn-and-Teller-on-Letterman-Sawed-in-Half-trick

^ How is that a duplicate? They're not even copies of the other. I went to see Penn and Teller in Vegas on two separate dates, you mean I should only have been charged for one?

Fuck Penn and Teller's "Bullshit" -- their show IS bullshit. It's a bunch of Libertarian crap being fobbed off as a "neutral" opinion. Look up the sources they use on the show and you'll find example after example of corporate shills, Randist loons and far-right front groups. On occasion, they accidentally do a good show (the death penalty show and the one about video games were both balanced), but the rest of the time their show is nothing but a smoke-screen for Penn's wacked-out political views.

I allways suspected Penn and Teller were full of bullshit. Ironic really.