Not seen: 60 Panzers in hot pursuit.

Trump did condemn, unlike Arnold's dad.

Truth and facts but left out that his dad was a Nazi.

His dad decided not to beat the loud and angry voices of the Nazi with louder more reasonable voices. His dad just joined them.

Military career[edit]
Schwarzenegger had served in the Austrian Army from 1930 to 1937, achieving the rank of section commander and in 1937 he became a police officer. After enlisting in the Wehrmacht in November 1939, he was a Hauptfeldwebel (Master Sergeant) of the Feldgendarmerie, which were military police units. He served in Poland, France, Belgium, Ukraine, Lithuania and Russia. His unit was Feldgendarmerie-Abteilung 521 (mot.), which was part of Panzer Group 4. Wounded in action in Russia on 22 August 1942, he had the Iron Cross First and Second Classes for bravery, the Eastern Front Medal or the Wound Badge. Schwarzenegger appears to have received much medical attention. Initially, he was treated in the military hospital in Łódź, but according to the records he also suffered recurring bouts of malaria, which led to his discharge in February, 1944.

I was going to ask if you had any more info on that crash... but google provided the answer - http://www.autobild.de/artikel/unfall-panzer-gegen-pkw-5785991.html

They still didn't explain HOW the driver managed to overlook a line of 40 tonne tanks.

Hey! I see a comment from 9 months ago so I figure I'm not too late! Love the old cartridges. My brother and I were always SEGA men ourselves. I have two SEGA Saturn games that I might offload through eBay for a pretty penny. One is Dragonforce worth roughly $150 now and the other is Panzer Dragoon Saga worth roughly $300 or so. These games gave me so much joy and entertainment as a kid and it makes me happy to see that other appreciate them as much to this day! Hope your old games found good homes and are loved.

I disagree. Imagine what it would look like if you had someone in that plate mail facing off against a peasant with a pitchfork. They look like they are demonstrating advanced techniques specifically designed for armored combat. Everything else is going to look like the first few seconds when he just stands there while the other guy took a full body swing at him, right before he swings back at you and cuts you in half.

A Sherman might not look so tough compared to a Panzer, but to everything not inside a tank, it will still make you shit your pants.

>> ^Retroboy:
He asked if I wanted to go see the show and I said Sherman.
And now my panzer wet!
If your Panther wet, you should try Patton 'em with a towel. Be gentle though, if you're Pershing too hard, you'll get Tiger'd easily.

He asked if I wanted to go see the show and I said Sherman.

And now my panzer wet!

>> ^ChaosEngine:

>> ^jonny:
>> ^soulmonarch:
>> ^gwiz665:
Dude! Nazi jokes are NOT funny! Anne frankly, I'm sick of them!
>> ^soulmonarch:
I confess, I did Nazi that coming.


Sorry... it seemed like the Reich type of joke to make under the circumstances.

Really gwiz, no reason to get in a Führer over a little joke.

If you don't cut it out, I'm goering to ignore you.


Liar, liar, panzer fire.

Lol really, Panzer-tanks? Never heard that; "Panzer" means "tank," amongst other related meanings.

Someone knows their firearms.
If I may offer and WADR, the Krummlauf option was offered for the MG42 and the STG44 with the "I"(as was correctly stated by radx) used by the infantry and a "P"(Panzer) variant for tanks. Barrels were issued in 30, 45, 60, and 90 degree curves. The 30 was quite accurate, under 1.5 MOA, and all practically accurate. Barrel life was limited, as already stated, with the 30 degree barrels rated roughly at 300 rds and the 45 degree at approximately 160 rds. I have seen one fired and a couple on film. Truly an influential design. Kalashnikov borrowed the gas system for the AK for instance.
>> ^radx:

[Geek]You know where the need for this modification supposedly arose?
Tanks designed without means for CQC/infantry suppression, particularly the Elephant, a heavy tank destroyer based on spare parts of the Porsche Tiger after Henschel's design was chosen. Great armor, immense firepower, piss-poor mobility - and no MG. So they developed the "Maschinenpistolen-Vorsatz P": a weapon system to be fitted on the StG44 which allowed the crew to cover blind spots from within the tank. It consists of a barrel bent 90 degrees, a periscope, an adapter and a hull mounting.
"Vorsatz I" (or J, can't remember) used a barrel bent at 30 degrees and was supposed to be used from within open-topped APCs as well as in urban combat, though it took about a minute to put it onto your rifle and the barrel was useless after 150-300 rounds. I imagine the 45 degree version was to be used in the same manner.
Rheinmetall still have some in their collection.[/geek]

>> ^Entropy001:
When in reality the Sherman tank was inferior to the German design.
Well, one could argue that it's more of a difference in the underlying philosophy than quality of engineering. German doctrin was based upon the use of what we now refer to as MBTs (Panzer I-V) while the Brits used infantry tanks (Mathilda, Valentine, Churchill, etc) and cruiser tanks (Cruiser, Crusader, Cromwell, etc), and the US troops deployed infantry tanks (Sherman) and TDs (M10, M18, M36). Once you split breakthrough and exploitation or infantry support and anti-tank warfare into separate vehicles, you're bound to end up with vastly different designs that might draw the short straw more often than not if not used properly.


If you include the lack of resources and manpower in particular, Wehrmacht tanks had to be superior individually, because they were doomed to be inferior numerically. Thus, the US could focus on easier and cheaper production. You don't need Zeiss optics and Krupp steel if you simply aim for number superiority. I'd say both design principles fulfilled their respective roles just fine, even though they could hardly have been more different. Simple, easy to maintain and reliable versus the latest in technology.

The Firefly was nice though, 17pdr was a beast.

Or maybe what I wrote is just a load of cockswallow and the German designs were, in fact, simply superior.

That said, this kitty was one hell of an engineering masterpiece. If they hadn't lost access to rare materials, even the transmission might have worked properly and those buggers wouldn't have broken down every 100km.

Still waiting to see the Panther at Koblenz again, last time was a blast.

Obviously an answer to the rhetorical question, 'How many Panzers will it take to invade Poland?'

The description on YouTube is interesting indeed:

An epic movie filled with symbolism about the battle for freedom and equal rights! (With english and german subtitles)

This movie portrays two ideologies fighting each other. The ideology of GREEDY SELFISHNESS and the ideology of EQUAL RIGHTS.

The maggot king, desperate to acquire even more wealth looks for new opportunities. And these opportunities lie in the east, where the people have still not been enslaved by the greedy empires. Producers (Pigs) are happy about a possible war, because they will be able to gain a lot of profit on cheap labor and the war ministers (Spiders) are happy as well, because a war means that they will wield more soldiers and thus more power!

Everyone will be better of. So it seems, but no one asked the people. Although they are over 99% of the population, they will gain nothing from a war, only suffering and death. Unwilling to go to war, the government brainwashes them to brain-dead fleas and so they assault the Soviet Lands.

However the people of the USSR are determined to liberate their motherland from the white empires. Because only when the red flag is victorious, only then all people around the world will become free. With their red flags they enlighten the fleas who are able to think freely once again and turn back to humans. As such, they turn their rifles against their rulers and change the society into a democratic socialist one. All countries unite and form the Socialist World Republic. Eternal peace and friendship has come!

Music: Der heimliche Aufmarsch
East German song sung by Ernst Busch

PLOT: White flags symbolise the white movement against the red army, the four flags USA, UK, FRANCE and JAPAN symbolise the countries which have sent soldiers to fight Soviet Union. Later the is a Panzer III, a nazi tank fighting against allies. This time USSR, USA, UK and FRANCE fight together against fascism! In the end they win and some centuries later all people of all nations unite in eternal peace!

Sorry but it's a dupe:

http://www.videosift.com/video/Working-Panzer-tank-at-half-scale

*discard

Denial? We're all very aware of our rich history. At least my arguments aren't boring and cliched. You can surely do better. I mean as soon as the Simpsons pull an example (the Crusades) to support an argument, you've got to reconsider the ammunition you're using.

Geez, the Crusades. If your holiest places were taken over by others, wouldn't you want to liberate them too? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crusades

The Catholic Church is guided by the Holy Spirit but it's composed of humans - and humans make mistakes - we're not perfect. This paragraph epitomizes the effect of this:
"Another factor that contributed to the change in Western attitudes towards the East came in the year 1009, when the Fatimid Caliph al-Hakim bi-Amr Allah ordered the Church of the Holy Sepulchre destroyed. In 1039 his successor permitted the Byzantine Empire to rebuild it.[6] Pilgrimages were allowed to the Holy Lands before and after the Sepulchre was rebuilt, but for a time pilgrims were captured and some of the clergy were killed. The Muslim conquerors eventually realized that the wealth of Jerusalem came from the pilgrims; with this realization the persecution of pilgrims stopped.[7] However, the damage was already done, and the violence of the Seljuk Turks became part of the concern that spread the passion for the Crusades.[8]"

Salem witch trials - example of what happens when a bunch of religious wackies get out of control - they were rather opposed to the Pope - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salem_witch_trials

Or witch hunts in general - yes, again, people made horrible evil mistakes, but attributing it all to the Church is again another outlandish and ignorant statement. Here's some light reading:
http://departments.kings.edu/womens_history/witch/werror.html

Okay, and the Inquisition - closely linked to the witch hunts/trials.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inquisition
"Although many states allowed the Church to use the death penalty, initially it was not frequently imposed, as this form of punishment had many ecclesiastical opponents.[2][3]"

From a pro-life perspective, if you have the capability to imprison criminals you shouldn't kill them either. And of course have differing opinions isn't a reason to criminalize people, but it should give you pause when people make it sound like the fear of 'thought police' is a new development.

As usual, something which may have had some higher purpose was corrupted by people with a baser intention - "studies showed there was an initial burst of activity against conversos suspected of relapsing into Judaism, and a mid-16th-century pursuit of Protestants - but the Inquisition served principally as a forum Spaniards occasionally used to humiliate and punish people they did not like: blasphemers, bigamists, foreigners and, in Aragon, homosexuals and horse smugglers"

You know what we hate worse than hateful comedians, eh? Those damn horse smugglers.

Two other fun thoughts before getting some rest
- remember that Pope Benedict was, in his previous post, the head of the Inquisition? It's still around, only it's called the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith. Lovely group. It's so good to have a Panzer Pope.
- nutty things were of course done through the ages - the "Index of Forbidden Books" is one of my favourites. Even in the late 19th century you'd hear Popes speaking of the dangers of "liberalism", whatever that means.

Yeah, people make mistakes, but Maher's blowing things out of proportion and being nutty about it himself. It's like he's creating his own "Index of Forbidden Groups" or something.