I don't believe this was ever about taking Ukraine with the Russian military. I believe this is about destroying Ukraine and squeezing Europe's energy-dependent balls until the EU cracks under the economic pressure caused by the sanctions. This is already happening with Germany whimpering to Daddy Vladdy for all that precious, precious oil and gas. "Oh, we gave Zelensky a billion euros!"; yeah, and you gave Putin 25x that in oil/gas purchases.

The mealy-mouthing and dissembling has already begun, most shamefully from the New York Times, who is calling for Ukraine to make "hard choices". "This isn't capitulation" -- fuck you NYT, yes it is.

I had honest hopes that the western powers would show some spine and resolve, but as soon at their economies started to feel a little pain, the number of fucks given for Ukrainian lives went to zero. Russian is going to rape and murder its way from Odessa to the Belarus border until the western powers figure out some way to make it all Zelensky's fault or force him to cede massive amounts of Ukrainian territory before any real economic pain felt.

The worst part is that Finland and Sweden are going to be granted NATO membership, but Ukraine still is denied. Why are these two the hills NATO is willing to die on and Ukraine not? If NATO isn't willing to risk nuclear war over Ukraine, what happens when the tip of a single Russian boot touches Finnish soil? What happens when Finland then calls for Article 5 and the rest of NATO suddenly realizes shit just got real? What happens when it's time to shit or get off the pot; put up or shut up? Either NATO charges into the teeth of a potential nuclear war, or NATO is shown to be a paper tiger. If someone sees a middle ground, I'm interested in hearing it.

(Incidentally, NATO's Article 5 is pretty porous. A-5 doesn't say every NATO nation commits whatever forces are deemed necessary by the whole to defend against an aggressor. Instead, it says that in the event of A-5 coming into play, each member will take "such action as [the member state] deems necessary, including the use of armed force, to restore and maintain the security of the North Atlantic area."

Notice the whole 'each member' and 'deems necessary'? Yeah, to quote a popular movie 'I don't think this mutual defense pact means what you think it does'.)

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>> ^rkone:

Good, I needed to know: Why do Odessians drive so willingly into deeply flooded streets?


To get to the other side?

Hey! I'm originally from Odessa!

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Why is he just standing there watching?!?! Can't he hear all the dolphins screaming getting crushed by ice?!?!

(btw, i'm originally from Odessa where this was filmed )

Thanks for the quality!

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*quality

They'll deal with privacy issues later....
aka ignore and do what they want anyway.

Odessa wins the 'Kings of the Morons' medal.

>> ^Asmo:
In this case, Copbusters are the "cop" waiting on the side of the road with the radar gun...
And the police blew through their road trap doing 120 throwing empty beer bottles out the window...


This analogy doesn't work, because the cop on the side of the road isn't baiting drivers to speed - he's just waiting for them to do something illegal of their own accord.
Overcast's prostitution sting analogy is better.

Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if Copbusters had someone call in an "anonymous tip" which lead to a legitimate warrant. It's not that I don't think the cops could have been illegally cruising with IR scanners, just that it wouldn't surprise me to find that the bait went deeper than a couple of lamps.

>> ^ReverendTed:
>> ^sometimes:
roughly equivalent to cops sitting on the side of the freeway with a radar gun looking for speeders.

Perhaps I'm misunderstanding your argument, but...isn't that perfectly legal?


In this case, Copbusters are the "cop" waiting on the side of the road with the radar gun...

And the police blew through their road trap doing 120 throwing empty beer bottles out the window... =)

>> ^MarineGunrock:
I'll tell you what's terrible :
Wasting a local police department's time and money for a fucking tv show. Whether or not the cops were wrong - I don't care. But don't waste tax payer money for your fucking show.


Hey MG, if the cops did their homework properly in the first place they would never have raided the house and money wouldn't have been wasted...

There were zero grounds for a warrant or even a reasonable suspicion. So hey, instead of pointing fingers at the guys setting up the sting, how about you point a finger back at the people who claimed it was necessary to waste all that money on bum steer...