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I love how they handcuff the attorney. Always the first reaction is to show "who's in charge"... Who cares who's in the wrong.

A long while ago there was a man who was a criminal in Odessa.

He was barricaded in his house, and he had nothing to lose.

The cops decided that they would try to take him out with out negotiations or special weapons and tactics.

They were going around to the side of the house, and forgot about the windows on the side of the house. Do I need to say any more?

This is why there are rules that uniforms have to follow, warrants that you do not lie on. Etc Etc. These things are there to keep citizens safe, and moreover to keep the uniforms safe.

Playing the system that was meant to keep citizens and uniforms safe, only leads to people getting hurt or worse.

See also this news report
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3Fu4YVH8nA

A lot of these busts are done for show, and to take the drugs out of circulation. They have no intention of getting arrests and prosecutions, they are just trying to hurt the drug producers.

Payback, are you saying that the cops won't arrest someone related to a bust? LOL

This is hilarious. Nice to see checks and balances. How the heck did the cops get a legitimate search warrant?

It appears that someone was using IR tech ilegally.

I'm sorry, could someone point me to federal laws prohibiting infrared imaging into private property?

I can imagine California having a state law about it, maybe Oregon and Washington...

Outstanding. Keep 'em running in circles chasing their tails.

Y'know if EVERYONE would use a halogen light it would render the helicopter InfraRed sweeps useless since EVERY house would glow "hot".

Inefficiency at best... Criminal at worst. Wasting resources is bad.

You have to play by the rules, or you are no better then the criminals you seek. It's that simple.

Also weed is completely harmless as a substance. The behavior of addiction is what is bad, no matter what the substance. Useless to blame the substance, and especially so in this case. Weak.

stinkin hippies

>> ^bamdrew:
I'm sorry, could someone point me to federal laws prohibiting infrared imaging into private property?
I can imagine California having a state law about it, maybe Oregon and Washington...


Bamdrew in order to get a warrant there needs to be a clear Images of evidence. Beyond a doubt. If these officers could not see in from a window, and get a clear concise picture of the "weed" then they did not uphold the standards for a search warrant.

Concerning privacy laws of the United States, privacy is not guaranteed per se by the Constitution of the United States. The Supreme Court of the United States has found that other guarantees have "penumbras" that implicitly grant a right to privacy against government intrusion, for example in Griswold v. Connecticut (1965). In the United States, the right of freedom of speech granted in the First Amendment has limited the effects of lawsuits for breach of privacy. Privacy is regulated in the U.S. by the Privacy Act of 1974, and various state laws.

Do some research on these guys first.

The guy in charge of all of it is a cop who's sister was falsely arrested. She had weed planted on her by an "informant" who later admitted in court what he did. She is still in prison serving a 8 yr sentence because of CROOKED cops.

That is what this is about. Cops breaking the law to enforce it is a slippery slope that we know how it ends.

A few years ago the supreme court ruled that IR cameras to peer in a home required a warrant.

More and more drug prohibition seems to be more trouble than its worth. We ought to be more interested in education and treating addiction rather than having laws that help create situations like this.

Little Brother is watching YOU....

I wouldn't have expected this video of all to mark my first entrance into the top 15.

Comment hidden because you are ignoring dag.(show it anyway)

>> ^joedirt:
See also this news report
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3Fu4YVH8nA


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>> ^vairetube:
Inefficiency at best... Criminal at worst. Wasting resources is bad.

There's nothing the slightest bit criminal about it; the lights they were using are perfectly legal. As for wasting resources, tell that to those running the War on Drugs.

The police probably do this every week and every other time they do it there are probably plants.

Does it make their actions unlawful because they were fooled?

I'm against law enforcement agencies shirking the constitution, but I don't hold kopbusters in high regard either.

Saying that the war on drugs is a waste is not a good argument.

>> ^deedub81:
Does it make their actions unlawful because they were fooled?

The SCOTUS has already ruled on the use of IR cameras without a search warrant. It's unlawful because they violated the 4th ammendment. I don't care how many people they catch that are guilty using this illegal means. They broke the law and should be punished for it. If you don't agree with this then you don't deserve the protection that the constitution provides you.

I'll tell you what's terrible :

Wasting a local police department's time and money for a fucking tv show. Whether or not the cops were wrong - I don't care. But don't waste tax payer money for your fucking show.

>> ^MarineGunrock:

...Whether or not the cops were wrong - I don't care...


I am sure you are in the minority here. The Blue Code of Silence is strong and deserves to have a light shone on it.

>> ^MarineGunrock:
I'll tell you what's terrible :
Wasting a local police department's time and money for a fucking tv show. Whether or not the cops were wrong - I don't care. But don't waste tax payer money for your fucking show.


How about not wasting tax payer money by lying on an affidavit so you can bust someone warming a couple of xmas trees?

Or, how about not wasting tax payer money by incarcerating millions of people for non-violent minor possession charges?

Some things, like the right to privacy, are a bit more meaningful than money.

^ No shit. Marine, I agree with you 99% of the time but this is bullshit. It's a video of the police breaking the law. That's not a waste of resources. Breaking the law you're being paid to enforce is a waste of resources.

These guys should be out busting meth labs anyway.

PS: In your opinion MG, what's with the slow motion raid? These guys look like their toking up themselves. Thank god there wasn't an armed criminal in there!

>> ^MarineGunrock:
I'll tell you what's terrible :
Wasting a local police department's time and money for a fucking tv show. Whether or not the cops were wrong - I don't care. But don't waste tax payer money for your fucking show.


Exactly. I mean just think about how many illegal searches they could've made or how many search warrants they could've faked in that time. They could've planted evidence or beaten a confession out of an innocent person. Don't waste the time of corrupt cops, just don't do it.

I never said these cops were right, but to specifically set something up that will waste taxpayer money is bullshit.

As for the slow-mo raid - they were asking to get shot. Never give the OpFor the chance to strike first.

^ If the cops wouldn't have done something so stupid (and possibly illegal), then the cameras inside would've filmed an empty house.

The TV show is not wasting cops time, cops are wasting OUR time. They are wasting taxpayer money on all these illegal searches, not to mention the fact that the Drug War is a failure on its face and should never have started in the first place.

Law Enforcement Against Prohibiton (website)

A sifted video about L.E.A.P.

>> ^MarineGunrock:
I never said these cops were right, but to specifically set something up that will waste taxpayer money is bullshit.

If law enforcement set up a fake bank sting for bank robbers to rob, the robbers are at fault. The COPS are the ones wasting money here, because they are the ones illegally raiding.

Where's the clip of them tasering the xmas tree?

We need a SETI-like program to look for intelligent life in Texas.

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What a bunch of assholes.

And it's not like Odessa doesn't have some real crime to fight.

Man, some people just don't seem to get it.

I get it... Next time my neighbor pisses me off, I'm replacing his porch light with a grow light.

Not that MG needs any help, but I'm going to play Devil's Advocate here:
The situation was deliberately set up to bait the cops...by looking like something that 99% of the time is a drug operation. How is that not probable cause?

@ReverendTed

the point is that it is ILLEGAL for cops to use infrared scanners on houses.
The ONLY way cops could come to the conclusion that it was a drug growing operation is IF THE COPS BREAK THE LAW.

it was set up to bait ILLEGAL Practices.

roughly equivalent to cops sitting on the side of the freeway with a radar gun looking for speeders.

>> ^Ryjkyj:
^ No shit. Marine, I agree with you 99% of the time but this is bullshit. It's a video of the police breaking the law. That's not a waste of resources. Breaking the law you're being paid to enforce is a waste of resources.
These guys should be out busting meth labs anyway.
PS: In your opinion MG, what's with the slow motion raid? These guys look like their toking up themselves. Thank god there wasn't an armed criminal in there!



i think slomo raid is their only options, they look rather overweight and immobile that bunch

>> ^sometimes:
roughly equivalent to cops sitting on the side of the freeway with a radar gun looking for speeders.


Perhaps I'm misunderstanding your argument, but...isn't that perfectly legal?

sometimes has the right idea. This doesn't look like a drug operation unless you're looking at it in a way you're not supposed to be, ie: with an IR scanner. If the police here had been following the laws, they wouldn't have any reason to suspect this house.

Perhaps a better analogy would be when the police set up a prostitution sting. You can bitch all you want that you were set up, but you would have never been snagged if you weren't soliciting in the first place.

I really think these sorts of operations are going to be key to protecting our rights in the next decade or so. For a long time crooked police were fairly untouchable as it was just your word against theirs. With the proliferation of cheap technology (cameras, GPS, cell phones) and the availability of the internet, they have to be on their best behavior. In a matter of minutes, bad behavior can be captured and released to the public and no amount of threats will make it disappear.

I can't wait for the internet videos to start making a real difference. All we ever hear is "Officer Whats-his-nuts was put on paid administrative leave pending an investigation" and then we never hear about it again. I want to hear about real organizational shake-ups! No more condoning violence just because it's a "non-lethal" tazer, no more falsifying evidence, no more cops demanding cameras to be turned off.

We're shining a light on these cockroaches, but I don't see them scattering.

>> ^Xax:
>> ^vairetube:
Inefficiency at best... Criminal at worst. Wasting resources is bad.
There's nothing the slightest bit criminal about it; the lights they were using are perfectly legal. As for wasting resources, tell that to those running the War on Drugs.


You misread. I AM referring to the Police Department.

>> ^MarineGunrock:
I'll tell you what's terrible :
Wasting a local police department's time and money for a fucking tv show. Whether or not the cops were wrong - I don't care. But don't waste tax payer money for your fucking show.


Hey MG, if the cops did their homework properly in the first place they would never have raided the house and money wouldn't have been wasted...

There were zero grounds for a warrant or even a reasonable suspicion. So hey, instead of pointing fingers at the guys setting up the sting, how about you point a finger back at the people who claimed it was necessary to waste all that money on bum steer...

>> ^ReverendTed:
>> ^sometimes:
roughly equivalent to cops sitting on the side of the freeway with a radar gun looking for speeders.

Perhaps I'm misunderstanding your argument, but...isn't that perfectly legal?


In this case, Copbusters are the "cop" waiting on the side of the road with the radar gun...

And the police blew through their road trap doing 120 throwing empty beer bottles out the window... =)

Are they going to get to see the search warrant? Or can it be kept secret?

>> ^Asmo:
In this case, Copbusters are the "cop" waiting on the side of the road with the radar gun...
And the police blew through their road trap doing 120 throwing empty beer bottles out the window...


This analogy doesn't work, because the cop on the side of the road isn't baiting drivers to speed - he's just waiting for them to do something illegal of their own accord.
Overcast's prostitution sting analogy is better.

Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if Copbusters had someone call in an "anonymous tip" which lead to a legitimate warrant. It's not that I don't think the cops could have been illegally cruising with IR scanners, just that it wouldn't surprise me to find that the bait went deeper than a couple of lamps.

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