In America, you have every right to ignore them unless they give a lawful command, which you must obey. They cannot arrest you for silence, or for ignoring a request. I'll take my brother's expensive lawyer's advice over anyone's, and he said the only answer allowed is "ask my lawyer", and to do what they command, but not what they ask.

The girl wasn't aggressively pushing to me, but she also wasn't complying with a lawful command. If the audio is any indication, she was trying to get her phone out of her pocket while lying down handcuffed. She should have complied, but they also should have put her all the way in like they're trained to do, not 3/4 of the way. It's easy and safe to open the other door and pull her another foot into the car where she can't block anything, and that doesn't result in a lawsuit and more public distrust, but that wouldn't teach her a lesson. Pepper spray is not as safe as that by far.

It's not cool to hate cops, and I really wish they would stop getting caught doing things that foster hatred. I want them to act in a way the public can always support, not the least patient and most aggressive they can legally justify in every situation. It would be good if they could be thinking 'how would I feel if someone did this to my daughter/son under the same conditions.
I doubt any of them would be ok with that happening to their child, tantrum or no. They could have been worse here, but also could have defused it all with a single simple command to sit at the beginning. Don't expect an irrational, young, scared girl to act like an adult...that's beyond the capabilities of most adults.

You can humbly submit to authority if you wish. My forefathers fought and died to secure my rights to not answer questions or submit to the every whim of authority, I'll not disrespect their sacrifices by waiving those hard won rights for authority's, or my own convenience.

It would be nice if 15 year old girls were civil, but few I've known are when cornered. I think that's the real reason for the spraying, but not an excuse imo. To me, the cop's pride needs to give way to reason and logic, or we'll keep paying out multi million dollar judgements.

*dupeof=https://videosift.com/video/End-of-the-World-Interview-LG-Prank

Also, not cool to waste their time (assuming it's not 100% fake) pretending they are interviewing for a job. I hope they got paid.

Since intentional infliction of emotional distress is actionable here, I doubt we'll see an American version.

Yeah...except that ignores your original point, that without non-whites efforts, 'merica would implode. I don't feel like a racially pure white supremacist nation would be a utopia in any way, even though I'm extremely white. (for one, my wife would have to go, not cool, and probably me for marrying her)

@enoch, you seem to be under the impression that you or I or anyone else has some kind of right to say whatever the fuck we feel like saying on the sift.

We don't. This isn't some public forum, it's a privately run website and @dag or @lucky760 have the right to decide if they don't want @gorillaman calling Obama a "nigger prince".

The sad thing is, I mostly agree with his post, but that one stupid epithet undermined his whole point and made him look like an ignorant fool.

And yeah, I'll fucking say it, calling Obama a "nigger" offends me, and not in some sensitive snowflake way. It should fucking offend you too, and frankly, I have no problem whatsoever with either dag (in his Siftler guise) or us as a community deciding that that's not cool and we don't want it here.

Free speech is not absolute, and anyone who thinks it is is deluding themselves. There are well-documented limits to free speech (yelling "fire" in a public theatre, joking about bombs at airports). Once you accept that something is not absolute, you then simply have to argue the degree to which limits apply (same as gun control, if you accept that civilians can't have nukes, then you're already in favour of gun control, you're just arguing over the extent).

omg that is a lynch mob if I ever saw one, you don't have to agree with them, but you lose *all* credibility when you do this to someone because they have a different opinion

not cool guys

Hey. Hey. Not cool. You all just upvoted a dead baby.

Ummm... not cool.

Not to mention that they have scent glands like skunks (and all other weasels I think). They can be removed, but the smell never goes completely away.
I had a pair as a teenager. They are illegal in California, so I had to give them up when my family moved here from Texas. Not cool.

I hate passive aggressive people who don't know how to deal with a situation like this in an adult fashion. Instead they make things worse and now have a relationship with their NEXT DOOR neighbor full of animosity. Just idiotic imo.

btw I think it's not cool AT ALL to play your music so loud that it annoys your neighbor.

My $0.02:
I'm glad he got fired. He's an idiot and his company have the right to fire him.

In the case of the Catholic school teacher or any or @enochs other imaginary scenarios of people being fired for spurious reasons, no, they would be wrong.

Why? Because they are different situations. Context matters!

Bein fired for getting drunk and calling your boss an asshole? Fine!
Being fired for admitting to being an atheist? Not cool.

This really isn't that hard people. You judge each situation on its merits.

Yeah but you're making a sequel from gold (haha, get it) and making one of trash...so not cool.

So then again, what is a "need" for humans? We have already went over the fact that water, food, etc., those are not "needs", as suicides definitely prove. In essence, humans, as thinking creatures, need nothing. The word "need" then becomes a useless word that we need to throw away

And the abuse thing came about one of two ways. Either Choas had very bad timing and wrote a response directly to my post about my mother in law "needing" her church on accident, or he did it on purpose. Either way it was a direct reply, and I simply asked him how he knew what she could or couldn't do. I feel that is like a person telling rape victims to get over it--with help of course...yeah...um...not cool...believing the magic cool aid that we can do anything if we just believe hard enough is logically fake. Like a big man in the sky who sends his flesh to free us of sin.

B) What I was saying is that if he had been through abuse, I would respect his past and stay quiet. But if not, he has no right to tell other people how to live their lives, deal with their problems, or get over stuff.