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BACON CAUSES CANCER!!!! MCDONALDS IS GIVING FREE CANCER!

Mordhaus says...

So, plant based eaters have Vegan superpowers that prevent colon cancer?

You ridicule my take on statistics, which you are wrong about as the 18% chance still ends up being a 1% chance OVER A LIFETIME, but you think that being Vegan means you will never experience pre-cancerous polyps or full blown colon cancer?

ANYONE can get colon cancer, Vegans still have a lifetime risk of 5% like everyone else. Even the link I quoted says they simply recommend choosing fish, poultry, or beans instead of red meat and processed meat. They DON'T say "GO VEGAN AND NO CANCERS FOREVER LOL".

That is why this is propaganda. The PCRM and it's lead Vegan doctor founder would have you believe that if you go Vegan that all of life's ails would simply be gone. You will never get those nasty sicknesses the meat eating brutes get...without acknowledging that diet is NEVER going to overrule genetic predisposition for certain ailments and conditions. It certainly might help very slightly in the long run, but the PCRM would have you believe that eating meat is equivalent to chainsmoking 4 packs of cigarettes a day, ie, you WILL get cancer if you aren't Vegan.

Trust me, I also understand having people that you love dying sucks. I've lost my entire biological family and many of my wife's family due to various reasons. All I have left is my wife's family and my biological mother. But I also realize that every single person is going to die. I also know that a lot of times that death isn't going to make sense or even be fair. You might be able to salvage a few years by restricting yourself from the pleasures of life, but statistically you still could die in a shitty way.

That is why I don't agree with the Vegan outlook or the ideal they promote that going Vegan will give you the longest lasting life with all happiness. There are many other diets that could provide the same minor edge in extending life, but Vegans typically refuse to acknowledge that. I view them as a pseudo-science cult, much like Breatharians.

transmorpher said:

Unfortunately there's nothing I can do to stop your comments from appearing once I'm on the page, but they are blanked out. I made the mistake of revealing your comment. But I can assure you I have learned from that mistake.

If you don't like the statistics then take it up with the World Health Organisation.

The other thing is, go and get a colonoscopy. Colon cancer can be symptom-less until spreads to your other organs. You likely already have it, and even if you don't I can guarantee you have the pre-cancerous polyps in there, everyone does, except for plant-based eaters.

Last Week Tonight with John Oliver: Paid Family Leave

Mikus_Aurelius says...

No cancer, seems kinda unfair to pay health insurance premiums toward someone else's treatment.

Haven't been unemployed. Seems kinda unfair to pay for unemployment insurance.

Don't drive much, seems kinda unfair to pay for all these roads.

My kid is in private school, seems kinda unfair that I have to pay for the public ones too.

See where this reasoning takes us?

sirex said:

no kids. Seems kinda unfair to get like any paid time off tbh.

professor cambell-nutrition can prevent and cure cancer

ChaosEngine says...

No-one disputes that a healthy diet can lower the risk of cancer (whether that means a vegetarian diet is still up for debate).

However, diet can not guarantee no cancer and it certainly can't cure it.
Part of the problem is that we still don't fully understand what causes cancer. We know that both genetic and environmental factors play a part.

You can spent your entire life eating perfectly healthily, not smoking, exercising and still get cancer. Or you can smoke and drink into your 90s and get away with it.

San Francisco to Introduce Marijuana Legalization Bill

J-Rova says...

Smoke contains the free radicals that lead to cancer. However, the active components of cannabis vaporize at a lower temperature than that of combustion; therefore, if you use a vaporizer, no smoke is produced, and hence, no cancer.

Immoral Madness

drattus says...

Not harmless, but not all that dangerous. For most people. There are exceptions who should probably avoid it and if you haven't tried there's really no reason to run out and do it, nothing much to worry about with moderate or light use either. Less than with drinking, though abuse is a problem with anything.

DEA Administrative Law Judge Francis Young ruled on a marijuana petition in 1988. The ruling was non-binding so the DEA ignored it but after nearly a year he ruled against the DEA. Among his conclusions were these.

In practical terms, marijuana cannot induce a lethal response as a result of drug-related toxicity.

In strict medical terms marijuana is far safer than many foods we commonly consume. For example, eating ten raw potatoes can result in a toxic response. By comparison, it is physically impossible to eat enough marijuana to induce death.

Marijuana, in its natural form, is one of the safest therapeutically active substances known to man. By any measure of rational analysis marijuana can be safely used within a supervised routine of medical care.

You can read the full case notes at the following, conclusions are in part 4. http://www.druglibrary.org/schaffer/library/studies/YOUNG/young.html

Just in case anyone is concerned about the old cancer scare, look up the name on the papers which made the initial claims. Many were done by or based on the work of Dr Tashkin. He never did prove it but always wanted to so not long ago did his most in depth study yet and disproved his own theory. No cancer link he could show, and a possible negative correlation.

Scientific American reported on it at the following. http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?articleID=0002491F-755F-1473-B55F83414B7F0000

All that said, no it's NOT harmless. Many dangers are overstated but there are real good reasons to not be high all the time and certain people who may be more prone to problems than others. A decent place for the short story, not just medical, on many drugs and angles of the drug war is the following, if you want to read the full medical reports they are listed so you can research it for yourself. http://www.drugwarfacts.org/index2.htm

Sorry for the long note. Seemed a lot to say, and I'd like to have said more actually edited to correct a typo.

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