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Cops Attack Another Man For Walking While Black

newtboy says...

Every single person who’s read your posts knows for a 100% certainty that is a pure lie.

You only see black and white or Blue and Red. Always. You see nothing BUT color.

In your mind everything is “us vs them”, never “WE”. You think Black and White are the same thing as Wrong and Right. If a white woman in a red hat was leaving the hospital in this video and nothing else changed you would be outraged at the “abusive liberal police attacking innocent people”, you know it’s true as much as we do. Ashley Babbitt is proof of your undeniable racism, that’s why you absolutely refuse to discuss your blatantly racist and hypocritical stance on her vs black men peacefully walking (which is she’s an innocent victim of police brutality despite being the tip of a violent destructive murderous mob trying to overthrow the elected government by force, but unarmed unthreatening black men peacefully and legally walking should immediately submit/comply and let their rights be violated daily and violence is justified if they don’t).

Maybe you can twist your own mind enough to convince yourself you aren’t racist, but that just goes perfectly with all the other reality denying theories you believe like….
The 2020 election was stolen
Covid isn’t dangerous
There’s no racism in America
Banning travel by Chinese, but not banning travel from China isn’t a racist policy and will stop Covid
Trump is fighting election fraud
Lockdowns don’t work
Russia didn’t help Trump get elected
The Trump economy was great
H Clinton is going to prison
Police aren’t racist
Forest fires are getting worse because the forests aren’t raked, not because of climate change
Climate change isn’t real
Jan 6 was BLM
Pelosi wasn’t attacked by a MAGgot terrorist, but had a lovers spat
Dominion stole the election
Soros stole the election
Cesar Chaves stole the election
Smartmatic stole the election
Italian space lasers stole the election
Hunter Biden stole the election
It’s not a crime to steal top secret classified documents, keep them unsecured, refuse to return them, lie about returning them, copy them, try to trade them, and to lie about it all to the FBI on sworn documents
Jewish space lasers are responsible for forest fires
Pizza gate is real, democrats are really pedophilic cannibalistic Illuminati lizard people that gain magic power from murdering children
Joe Biden raped a woman in the open halls of congress
Trump never raped a woman
Hunter Biden has well over $3 BILLION dollars from China
Jared personally EARNED $3 billion from the Saudi prince by selling them a classified enemies list our national intelligence community developed, nothing wrong with that
Trump didn’t abuse the office for personal/familial gains in excess of $3 billion
BLM murdered police, not the Boogaloo boys who were caught in the act


You never say the “should have complied with police, totally justified” bullshit when the victim is white (a rarity but it happens) and you nearly always excuse abusive police when they attack black people for “not complying”. You never care that “complying” means waiving their constitutional rights…unless it’s a MAGgot that’s “not complying”, which you always see as heroic patriotic bravery even when it’s paired with anti government terrorism and violence.

bobknight33 said:

Your statement is pure bull shit.

I don't see color. Just right and wrong

Ukraine war current status

newtboy says...

I know the media YOU watched was fake, 1 sided propaganda for the extreme right and outright insanity like Qanon. I know anything less you call liberal fake news no matter how many times it’s proven correct.
Edit: so we’re clear, you gave up on cable news, where you got all your info 2015-2023 because they’re fake, biased, government propaganda and have LOWERED your standards to random internet YouTube “news” channels that only repeat what they heard on cable news with some exaggeration and misinterpretation? Um….ok.

No sir, I’ve never watched what you call “news” except as an example of the nonsense the right is spouting. I watch real news, usually from multiple sources, then verify. That’s why you never catch me spouting the kind of debunked nonsense you spout, and why I don’t have to slink away in shame 5 times a week and ignore your baseless accusations, but instead can debunk each and every one with factual information.

I would rather watch actual news then look into what they touched on than propaganda channels that get me to believe the stupidest anti American nonsense and lies, like the lies they convinced you to repeat about Covid, Jan 6, Pelosi, CRT, lizard people, space lasers, 9/11 was an inside job, pizza pedophiles are inter dimensional travelers, Ukraine started this war, Russia is winning, the US destroyed the German pipeline, etc.
You have never searched the internet for completeness of any issue, you look for someone spouting the same nonsense you are and think rando internet trolls that watched the same internet news and regurgitate it are corroborating it, not just repeating it.

They took the parts full of Russian illegals and Russian “separatists” that never accepted Ukraine as a separate nation, the parts that didn’t fight back or had already been taken by Russian backed separatist terrorists….Mexico took back more of Texas than Russia has Ukraine….how did that turn out? This war was supposed to take Russia 2 weeks to take over a mostly unarmed nation with no real military. Instead civilians with little weaponry and much less training have descimated them at over a 3-1 rate despite being outmatched 2-1 in population. There hasn’t been any significant addition to Russian territory in years, but NATO has doubled its border with Russia and is rapidly expanding.
Russia is SO inept it couldn’t take an unarmed nation 1/4 full of Russians.

Lol. Sucker. Their “taking bakhmut” footage was fake.

So, even your propaganda says Russia hasn’t taken it? Odd, they claimed to have taken it all 2 weeks ago….which you repeated.

What, you want individual UNVERIFIED videos of Ukrainians taking out Russians? There’s one posted every 5 minutes. Many can be found here - https://www.youtube.com/@Kanal13AZ

How about one of Russia bombing Russia?



Or Ukraine getting more troops https://youtube.com/shorts/qAvJtapgeAc?feature=share
Or Russia taking insane losses in Bakhmut https://youtube.com/shorts/W7CWCa9A0R4?feature=share


Not that anything but a fat old white guy sitting in front of a camera saying Russia is winning will convince you.

Edit: Wait….you think I have “followers”!?! It would be news to me. How many do I have? Could I start my own cult yet? I hear it’s a great way to get rich.

bobknight33 said:

Well I gave up on watching cable fake news. You know the media is fake/ 1 sided. propaganda for the government .

However there are plenty of sheeple, like you who do watch the fake news.

Rather watch cable news who will provide less than 2 min talk and will "leave it there" without getting a full picture , only a snippet. I rather search the internet for more completeness.

As you say "Russian military is so inept " but they have taken a good part of Ukraine.


"Didn’t you say 2 weeks ago Russia was poised to crush Ukraine and had taken Bahkmut…".... I did say that and I am correct.

Bakhmut is a major objective and Ukraine is loosing. Now nearly 80% taken.


Please post Ukraine is winning videos. IF you can find them. Please enlighten me and your sheeeple followers.

I'm not interested on some general sitting in front on some senate hearing saying Ukraine is winning -- show actual news .

Fartwell gets call out

newtboy says...

ROTFLMFAHS!!
Which truth? Lizard people infiltrated government?
Pizza pedophile rings operating in inter dimensional spaces that don’t exist in our dimension but are definitely real?
Jewish space lasers cause most wildfires?
Covid 19 is a bio weapon attack against the US?
School shootings are all false flags?
Clinton is a clone?
Biden isn’t president? Biden is a clone? Biden is a robot? Trump is really still running the country in secret?
Trump is weeding out pedophiles (not befriending them and putting them in his inner circle again)?
Obama isn’t American?
Moon landing is fake, all astronauts actors?
9/11 didn’t involve airplanes or Saudis and was an inside job by the Jews?

Which is your “truth”?

Traitor Greene? Who knows, she spreads her legs for anyone that can stand the stench, then lies about her affairs even after being caught red handed. She hung out with Trump, so She’s absolutely slept with spies. There’s infinitely more evidence of that than there is about Swalwell (because there’s absolutely none about Swalwell), and you know it.

Really…she fundraised for his campaign, zero evidence she was ever his lover. There’s absolutely zero evidence he had any personal relationship with her like 2 mayors did. One US mayor described as older and “from an obscure city’’ in the Midwest called Fang his “girlfriend” at a conference in Washington, DC, in 2014 (likely Republican), the other sexual encounter involving Fang and an Ohio mayor (likely Republican) was also caught on FBI surveillance. You love to assume…and you are always wrong in your assumptions. Derp

Every accusation an admission. We know Republicans suck, that’s why they’re below 25% favorability. We know they’re anti American, they tried to overthrow America and since they failed have tried to actually defund police, fbi, DOJ, and suggested we should suspend the constitution. You don’t get more anti American…but we knew that.
We know Republicans want to return to pre-civil war era laws when any non whites and women did as they were told or died, when a lynching was celebrated not frowned upon. It’s no secret.
We know Republicans are trying to legalize sex with 12 year olds and are constantly getting caught having sex with children and covering for those who are having sex with children.
We know Republicans try to sell the blatant lie that human caused climate change isn’t real, but also invest based on climate science. Watch the money, not the flapping lips. I don’t see you investing in cheap low lying beach front property in Florida.

So, you say well over 1/2 of Americans are blind ignorant people…but you also try to say you love and respect America? ROTFLMFAHS! 🤦‍♂️
Only insanely ignorant racist fascists vote Republican. That’s a lot, but not enough to win elections, and independents see you as the anti American infantile bullies and snowflake thin skinned morons you are now. Good job!

bobknight33 said:

Q probably pushed more truth than the fake news did.

Traitor Greene -- What spy did she sleep with or what spy was her driver?

" Salwell slept with Feng, there’s zero evidence of that," --- Really Shes slept her way around with Democrat politicians in CA and finally ended up dicking fartwell.

Look Democrats suck and are Anti American.
They enslave blacks and only want their vote.
They push gender bending and false climate change.

Only blind ignorant people vote democrat.

Arrest In Break-In At Democrat Hobbs' Campaign Headquarters

newtboy says...

I never said she was, only that it’s likely, and that breaking into a campaign headquarters is, by definition, a political crime. It’s still quite possible she or her campaign put him up to it, intentionally hiring a homeless looking guy so people like you would say exactly what you said (once fed it), or not. Nothing has indicated otherwise. Even homeless guys know campaigns don’t keep cash or jewelry around, nothing to steal there but campaign data, not the stuff homeless people steal.
Either way, it’s a political attack to break into a political headquarters, even if that’s not the intent.

How about wait and see before declaring her innocence based on nothing. Can’t wait for a fact before you post no story pushing a fake innocence. Even if she’s not involved directly in this crime, her rhetoric is responsible for hundreds of credible death threats and other threats and attacks. She may not be guilty of this crime, but she is far from innocent.

Oh, I’m so sorry, only bob is allowed to “push narratives” or make suppositions without having all the facts, or in his case any facts. You have no leg to stand on after years of pushing obviously fake stories that, surprise surprise, all turned out to be totally fake with no evidence on which to base them in the first place. Don’t whine now that someone else jumps to conclusions like you always do.

Know what’s definitely not fake? The violent attack against Pelosi’s elderly husband in an attempt to murder her….I suppose you would say it’s wrong to call that a politically motivated attack too.

You are gullibility incarnate. You still believe covid is a hoax, and just a cold, and a plot by China to destroy the west by infecting itself. You still believe Russia didn’t ever interfere in our elections, and Trump really won the popular vote once. You believe Jan 6 was ANTIFA and BLM not MAGA despite the guilty pleas, and that stealing nuclear secrets and keeping them in public hallways where Chinese spies repeatedly brought recording equipment and roamed freely is a “nothing burger” but Clinton not seeing the murky future is a high crime. Everything you claim to believe is certifiable nonsense, bob. Pretty certain you think long dead Hugo Chaves used Italian space lasers to change votes in dominion voting machines in a shared plot with the Illuminati and the sleestacks (lizard people) to hurt Trump because he was going to expose their pedophile vampire club where they vivisect children for pineal glands. ROTFLMAHS!!

bobknight33 said:

Holy Cat Shit Robin

The caught the bad guy.
Dos Reis

Are real Watergate break in kind of guy.

Definitely Kari lake behind this NOT.

Guy looks more like a homeless guy than and operative.

Can't you just wait for a fact before you post 1/2 a story pushing a possible fake narrative ?

God you are gullible.

Jordan Klepper Takes On Canadian Truckers | The Daily Show

newtboy says...

By “The people” I’m pretty sure he means just these people. Anyone not a right wing, lizard-people-fighting nut bag doesn’t count as “people” to him.

surfingyt said:

by people you mean no one lololol. poll after poll shows Canadians do not support the truckers. once again yer little Q narrative goes buh bye lololol

bobknight33 (Member Profile)

newtboy says...

Yeah yeah, and in your tiny deluded mind the southern strategy never happened and yesterday’s Democrat isn’t today’s Republican and vise versa. It’s a fraud perpetrated by the lizard people and Illuminati in conjunction with the Rand corporation.

Sorry, I live in the real world where Ignorami don’t get to rewrite history to fit their lack of knowledge, and people who, as a couple, live on <$30k a year aren’t considered “elite” but those who own country clubs are.
🤦‍♂️

bobknight33 said:

@newtboy

Lets remember those were Democrats, Like you. Racist tools of elitism.

Q Believers Are Murdering Their Children

newtboy jokingly says...

I can’t wait to hear @bobknight33 deny this as a false flag, then start thinking about how his own children might be lizard people, planted here to prepare for the reptilian takeover. Little does he know, the reptiles are all just working for the true ancient masters….AMPHIBIANS!!

Don’t worry, Bob. When we take over, I’ll keep you around as an entertaining pet and reminder of how gullible simians are. Aaahahaha…Bwaaaahahahaha….BWAAAHAHAHA!!

bobknight33 (Member Profile)

newtboy says...

Lol. Still the best you've got is one poorly spoken statement you can intentionally misinterpret? So kindergarten Bob. Try using the same criteria on any Trump speech ever, you'll be horrified.

We had a fair election despite all the republican efforts to block and hide and deny votes. Trump lost. Bigly. Get over it and grow up.

There is zero evidence of any improprieties. None. Nada. Zip. Trump and Giuliani can lie on tv all they want, dishonest people can make all the accusations on the hotline they want. OAN can claim Trump got >400 electoral votes all they want. No one is willing to lie in court yet, they all recanted when placed under threat of perjury. The cases they submitted are based on supposition, suspicion, and idiocy (like using one states results compared with another states population to show fraud). There's zero evidence of fraud, and zero chance the courts will reverse the outcome. Get over it and stop the tantrums, threats, and terroristic behavior. It's 100% unpatriotic.

Edit:your little veritasesque video is more of the same bullshit. Liars who won't tell these same lies under oath....but you're happy to believe them if they support Trump no matter what nonsense they spout....like suggesting we just have another election because they lost this one...or because the trump crowd wasn't all allowed inside.

Trump has today to refile a real case in Pennsylvania, the state has one day to respond....to the same republican judge that unceremoniously tossed their last case with prejudice as a bag of jenkum the lawyers involved must be huffing. The interesting part is they are so incompetent that they didn't even request a stay of the order allowing Pennsylvania to certify today. Good luck with that.

Riddle me this....if Democrats are so capable that as the minority they can create a multinational conspiracy with tens of millions involved to commit the greatest crime in American history, leaving no trace, not a scintilla of actual evidence of this enormous world wide criminal conspiracy beyond untrustworthy people's accusations, don't you think they should be in charge? Don't you think their leadership would have to benefit America more than Republicans who can't make an agreement with foreign powers because no one trusts us to keep our obligations now? Oh, I'm sorry, I forgot, democrats are all baby drinking lizard people who have gone through this astonishing effort flawlessly because they hate America and only want to sell it out (contrary to the pedophile filled party that actually tried to sell Puerto Rico). 🤦‍♂️

Stop being a crybaby loser and grow up. Your tantrum is going to cost lives thanks to a delayed vaccine rollout and international crises we are creating by pulling out of the middle east and provoking war with Iran.
Trump lost by a massive landslide and you want him to ignore the clear will of the people and stage a coup. Remember that in 4 years when President Harris refuses to leave office because of how racist Trumpsters treated her, and claims she gets a preemptive do over of her next term because of expected obstruction and begins openly declaring she's going for four terms or more. I'm going to rub your nose in it so hard you're going to intentionally get covid to get rid of the smell.

Michigan just certified. D'oh!

Edit: the trump administration has just started the transition officially. Pretty much game over.

Harris 2021-2036 or longer! Lol.

bobknight33 said:

Game not over.
Just warming up.

You do want a fair election, correct?

Senators Who Urged Voters To Decide - Now What?

newtboy says...

Proof? Evidence? Anything besides empty words from crybaby loser liars to back that up?

Republican led election officials uniformly say there was no significant cheating, less than normal, zero evidence of irregularities, no evidence of electronic vote changing, no dead people voted, and no baby eating lizard people taking votes to Spain so Venezuelans could flip votes, then returning these flipped votes through communist Cuba to be counted.

Show me a scintilla of evidence, since you've repeatedly excused, backed up, and reveled in lying and are completely untrustworthy. So far all cheating has been Republicans getting caught stealing ballots despite what OAN says. 300000 undelivered votes thanks to trump lackey Dejoy ignoring court orders to search for them to mention just one. The thousands of "affidavits" don't count since they've been tossed out of court as unreliable twaddle.

bobknight33 said:

IF Democrats didn't cheat then Trump would not be fighting back.

bobknight33 (Member Profile)

newtboy says...

You know I won't click on your links since you sent me to that virus hosting site. How about name an instance and I'll investigate myself, I certainly won't trust your sources....especially when it comes from a Trump tweet. Get real, I expect another "professional opinion" like the doctor that supports hydroxy, and alien DNA in medicine, lizard people, and demon sperm as the cause of all gynecologic issues, not facts...he hates facts, they never agree with his uninformed opinion.....but he loves the uneducated, they'll believe his insane bullshit and never check for themselves.

HOLY FUCKING SHEEP SHIT YOU MORON.... I checked first then read it....it doesn't say this was fraud, much less democratic fraud, it makes no mention of political affiliation, but based on recent history chances are great that, if it's fraud, it's Republicans. How long were these few dead people dead before the election? Could they have been alive when the vote was mailed in? Doesn't say. How many cases are considered fraud by the election board? None I could see.

What it did say was many didn't receive their ballot in time to vote, or at all, because Trump and friends hobbled the mail services causing delays that suppressed thousands of votes. It also said most votes that were disqualified had issues with either the signature, something Trump claims isn't being checked, or the section for someone to deliver the ballot for the voter, something else he claimed isn't checked. Kinda blows his claim that fraud is rampant and unchecked when his evidence is the votes that didn't pass the checking they did of them. His solution, suppress tens of millions more votes. Evidence of Republican vote suppression, not democrats vote fraud.
A vote denied is a vote stolen.

This article actually makes the point that any possible vote by mail fraud will be caught, not that it's a problem.

This is Trump and friends interfering in the election by your estimation, Bob. If it's fraud because people didn't get their ballots, or they were delivered too late to count, and they didn't get them because the post office is slowing down at Trump's order, that's Trump and co. committing election fraud.

Not true, mail in ballots are exactly the same as absentee. There's never been a distinction made before this election. There are multiple states that have had universal mail in voting for decades.
There is no difference in the processes, despite what Trump and Fox have told you. They're liars, you know it. The only difference is you don't have to lie about your ability to get to a polling place with universal mail in voting. The article Trump had you link to proves it conclusively....those votes were disqualified because they did check signatures and more.
Trump's entire family votes mail in, even though they have no reason to. They're all registered in multiple states too....from what Trump says, that's proof they're committing vote fraud.

Lest you forget, the CDC stated unequivocally that mail in, not in person voting is the ONLY safe way to hold an election this year.
Lest you forget, Trump has said unequivocally that if every eligible voter voted, Republicans would disappear instantly. The ONLY way for Republicans to win is to disenfranchise millions of voters. That is why, when logic and reason say the post office should be expanding operations to prepare for weeks of high mailings, but instead they are cutting hours, removing 10%+ of their sorting capacity and removing an unknown number of mail collection boxes, already creating massive backlogs in normal mail service of weeks to months, making them incapable of fulfilling huge numbers of contracts they have which will cost them package delivery business they desperately need to survive when they should be ramping up. Only a brain dead slug can't see that's intentional, especially when Trump goes on TV and says it is, intentionally done to suppress the Democratic and independent vote because if they vote, he'll lose.

Trump refuses to fund even normal operation at the USPS because it would make delivering ballots easier.
You know he agreed to fund the post office, including money needed to greenlight universal mail in voting, if Democrats give him tens of billions for tax cuts and pet projects for himself, right? So, he's saying he will allow election fraud for a price? Or is it more likely he's willing to give up a dishonest and failing political ploy for a bribe?
You know this is tax payer money meant to fund civil services, right, not some handout? It seems you think funding essential civil services is a gift in your mind, not an obligation. So you'll stand behind Biden if he halts all funding for police and military until they get their act together, right? (Not that he plans any such thing, I'm making a point about your hypocrisy as a defense for intentional election disruption and massive voter suppression as a campaign strategy.)

The international community disagrees. When only 10% of votes are cast this election, the world will declare the election a fraud, so will 90% of Americans. Talk about dividing the nation for one man's gain. That's why we think you're Russian, Americans care more about the nation than their cult leaders.

The check and balance comes at registration, and again when the vote is counted....just like absentee votes. Trump is lying when he claims they aren't validated.

Trump disrupting mail service in any way possible to deny voters a chance to vote safely, also closing thousands of polling places (mostly in democratic leaning areas) from lack of staff IS election rigging....he has said specifically on television it is done to sway the election results by suppressing a majority of votes, leaving only the method he polls best with, unsafe in person voting which the CDC said clearly is a recipe for disaster and will kill people. He doesn't care a whit that hundreds more Americans will die and thousands be disabled because he forces them together to fulfill their civic duties, not his problem because he's mailing his vote in (so he has time to go golfing, watch TV, and tweet all day, not because he can't vote in person btw).

bobknight33 said:

You are wrong

yet another example of voters not getting their voting mail
https://www.northjersey.com/story/news/paterson-press/2020/05/29/paterson-nj-election-included-ballots-out-towners-and-dead/5287985002/


Least you forget that mail in ballot, the democrats want so badly is not the same as absentee ballot. There is a proper proecess for absentee and none for mass mailing vote by mail.

where the check and balance of the mass mailing?

Also Trump not giving $ for this Democrat push is not election rigging or anything else.

bobknight33 (Member Profile)

newtboy says...

Lol. All PROFESSIONAL doctors agree....and social distancing with good hygiene is not shutting down for the most part.
(There are dozens of ways to achieve relative safety and keep even schools open, but just going back isn't one of them. For instance, staggered school days, splitting classes into 5 equal groups that each attend one day a week could allow social distancing and more personal attention, online classrooms could supplement at home schooling the other 4 days a week. What won't work is Trump's plan of just sending everyone back to overcrowded classrooms all at once, that's a guarantee of new large scale outbreaks nationwide.)

Now we know the doctors that agree with you are the same doctors that say alien DNA is used to make medicines, gynecologic issues are caused by having sex with demons in dreams, hydroxychloroquine is safe and effective, and 1/2 the government is lizard people and other aliens.
Trump's got the best doctors.
*facepalm

Feeling like you're being lied to yet?

Or are these conspiracy theorist nutbags, the only ones who agree with Trump, the best and brightest doctors (in your mind) and those millions of professional and sane health care workers are in a huge perfectly executed global conspiracy designed solely to hurt Trump even in countries that love Trump like Brazil and Russia, murdering hundreds of thousands and maiming millions and starting a global depression to further the fraud?

Second question. If every nation in the world is willing to murder it's own citizens and destroy their own economies to hurt Trump, shouldn't he be removed for the good of the nation and planet? If his "leadership" has made enemies out of every other country, how does that benefit America?

bobknight33 said:

First of al not ALL agree to stay shut down or to mask up.

% of deaths to infected is small. Is It worth shutting down and loosing mom and pop shops and much more worth it?


I say mask up and go to work.

Kids are the safest demographic.

Rayshard Brooks shooting police bodycam footage

newtboy says...

Nope, I actually watched the multiple other videos that had the all important missing portion from yours, you know, the part where the murder happened, and listened to what he and the other cop are actually charged with and why. You listened to lizard people fighter Glen Beck.
My assessment remains 100% correct. Yours ignores the video evidence in favor of fantasy.
D'Oh.

Learn....oh what am I saying, you're incapable of learning or truth. Just repeat some more ignorant falsehoods, it's all you're good at. At least they're always so dumb and poorly thought our that it takes zero effort to find proof you're just suffering from another flare up of your cranial rectosis and regurgitating nonsense.

bobknight33 said:

100% false
"kicking him as he lay bleeding to death, and refusing to render timely aid, instead standing on his body for at least 2 minutes watching him bleed out. "

Obliviously you watch fake news. You are the pusher of hate an lies. Learn truth not push lies blindly.

Cops were cool all the way till the point when the suspect went form zero to full bore attack.

You call it 43 minutes of wasted time . I call it cops being respectful and doing their job professionally.

" Cop is now facing felony murder charges among multiple other charges."

Political witch hunt. No crime. He will walk and Atlanta will burn again because of the false narrative.

How scientists colorize photos of space.

If Fox News Covered Trump the Way It Covered Obama

newtboy says...

The new lower standard....which was exponentially higher than the standard set by either the previous or subsequent president?
Do you not know how lowering standards works? To set a new low, you have to be worse than others.

8 years and Obama never had to hire a lawyer, not one indictment with the republicans frothing at the mouth daily over....well, obviously nothing, for all 8 years.
Trump, at 1.8 years in had 89 indictments and already 24 convictions (more now, 36 guilty pleas for Republican Mueller's investigation alone) with Republicans in FULL CONTROL (and he still couldn't get wall funding, Muslim bans, or kill the ACA, and barely even got his deficit exploding tax cut for millionaires).
Bush had 16 indictments, all convictions, and until Trump was considered our dumbest, most incompetent president...not anymore.

Every time you spout this kind of asinine brain dead stupidity, I will be here to save you with some fact. Claiming Obama set a new low standard means you have absolutely no grasp on reality, as it's simply embarrassingly wrong and easy to debunk factually. By every standard imaginable (morally, ethically, in civility, rationality, directionality, ability, honesty, FIDELITY, respect, etc.) he was and remains not just head and shoulders above Trump, he's miles above Trump and well above W.

It's very sad your baseless irrational hatred taints your viewpoint so thoroughly you would think that nonsense would fly....but since you just proudly flew a Q flag there, it's clear you're too far gone for fact or history to matter a whit.
Q=batshit crazy conspiracy nuts akin to flat earthers and breathairians, 100% worthy of shunning before they pull out a gun in your pizza place looking for child sex slaves, illuminati, and lizard people.
Just when I think you can't sink lower, you surprise me every time.

Btw, thanks to numerous states making releasing your tax returns mandatory to be on the ballot, Trump's 2020 chances are quickly becoming slim to none....hard to win if you aren't on the ballot, harder to win when it's shown you're a complete fraud and tax cheat.

bobknight33 said:

Obama set the new lower standard and Trump is just the next guy in line.



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AOC Sets Groundwork To Subpoena Trump's Taxes And Council

newtboy says...

Bob. You're repeating nonsense. Flynn contacted the Russian government and made deals with them, on Trump's behalf and at Trump's direction, in contradiction to the current administration....Obama....which is a serious felonious crime called treason, then he lied about it repeatedly under oath. No one set up a thing besides an opportunity to come clean, which he failed to do.

Duh, Bob....every conviction of an administration member is related to Trump, if these were Obama administration officials, you would undeniably blame him for each and every charge, but Trump must not be a leader in your eyes or you would also blame him for his own people, certainly.

No, Bob, this is to ensure a dishonest president doesn't try to kill the FBI investigation or just hide it's findings, like he's tried dozens of times to do. Because your ilk refuses to follow the law or constitutional obligations, more investigation is not only proper, it's required....and from what I read it's 81.
This is about any number of new crimes divulged by Trump's personal fixer, and who would know better? It's also about his uncountable public displays of obstruction and seeing what other illegal steps he's taken to try to end the investigation before results are known.

Trump spends that much taxpayer money at his own golf clubs monthly, you don't care a whit about the money, you would jump at the opportunity to spend ten times that investigating Clinton over pedophile pizza places or any other nonsense. I'm certain you didn't complain when Republicans spent over $80 million to investigate a real estate deal and only found an inappropriate blow job....Trump wishes he had that little to investigate, we already know far more and far worse about him by his own admission.

Trump is far more than enough by himself to keep people on the anti Trump train, people like me couldn't be dragged off it with a minor temporary tax rebate....and weren't.
It would be sad, if we believed you were an American, that you were so deluded and biased that investigating clear obstruction looks like a political ploy to you, but I have a seriously hard time believing you are for real, real people can't exist so incredibly biased and blinded, you go so far overboard in your support of an admitted fraud (Trump stole money from poor people and gave them no education in return, Trump personally admitted under oath it was a pure fraud) it's simply not rational, and you don't spout off enough about lizard people to believe you believe it.

But then you say something stupid like "its going off the rails, just like the Democrat party" ignoring that the Democrats won the last election handily because Americans don't like a crazed, narcissistic, fraud president with worsening dementia or sycophantic representatives and want them investigated, the Republican party derailed in summer 16 but you won't get out of the burning wreck.

Like I said, it's the state charges that should worry you....Pence can't pardon those.

bobknight33 said:

Flynn was a set up process crime. He should be pardoned.

All in all no conviction related to Trump. ZERO.

" 80 individuals and organizations received official requests for documents t" Muller spent $25 Million and already been there / done that.... This is just Democrats attempt to keep people like you on the anti Trump train.

Look out its going off the rails, just like the Democrat party.



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